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  • Member since
    August 2020
  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:28 PM

Steve that oilcaning work is just awsome! The model looks fantastic and the oilcan work lifts it to another level entirely.

Rob F

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, September 28, 2020 6:29 PM

Bish,

Thank you.

Marcus Beer

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, September 28, 2020 3:32 PM

Marcus, thats some impressive and pain stakeing work there, very nice.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, September 28, 2020 3:30 PM

Thanks Rob, i have a whole host of u-boat books, including a couple of those. Don't think i have Beavers, going to have to look for that one. I do have a few of his others.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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Posted by Bish on Monday, September 28, 2020 3:29 PM

Steve, from what i have read, that seems to be the standard way of doing it. I don't think its somthing that can be rushed. I just need to get myself some No 10 blades.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, September 28, 2020 2:44 PM

Bill,

I will have to give your method a test, sounds interesting.

I have several kits that came with the wood decking and I plan on using them but I won't be buying any aftermarket ones.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 28, 2020 1:26 PM

I like that technique, MM. I use a simplified version where I use a short and heavy straightedge and "rule the segments of color with a toothpick dipped in paint. I have to say that about 1/3 in, you had me feeling pretty skeptical, but it weathered out nicely.

I've used wood pre cut decks on a few models like pre-dreadnaughts when there's a lot of deck, but most of my ships have painted decks so it's not important to me.

 

Bill

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, September 28, 2020 1:19 PM

Dodgy, Mongoose, Ikar01 and Steve,

Thank you for kind remarks, much appreciated.

Steve, I learned this technique from watching a videos of a Graf Spee build by a modeler named Guido Hopp.  His site is still up on You-Tube if you like to see how its done. 

My first time using a after market wood deck for my Dreadnought build I didn't really like how thick it was and how it reduced the height of hatches and deck detail.  You couldn't even see the covers for the coal scuttles unless you were looking straight down at the deck.  It is a lot of work and time but I feel its worth it, even did a deck at 700th scale.  That was a lot of fun and .3mm tape!

Marcus Beer

 

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 28, 2020 7:58 AM

Marcus, I agree, that is some insane work. I was wondering where you were going with that as it was very striking, this adding the greys and such to tone it down really made it look like subdued or distressed worn wood. Where did you learn/see/find that technique or was that something you thought of?

Bish, I used a #10 blade on each section between the bulkheads and srtingers. I may have gone too far but it was my first try. I felt the results turned out OK. Hopefully you can find an eaiser and faster way.

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  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Monday, September 28, 2020 1:24 AM

Marcus those decks look stunning.

Rob F

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Monday, September 28, 2020 1:17 AM

Hi Bish. I have the old Squadron/Signal book U boats in Action and it has a couple of nice tower pics in it. I also have Lothar Gunther Bucheim's U Boats at War and U Boats in the Atlantic by Beaver. Do you have these references? If not do you want me to copy some of the pics and send them to you?

Rob F

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Posted by TheMongoose on Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:25 PM

Marcus that deck is insane.great outcome!

In the pattern: TIRPITZ, the Tamiya 1/350th version.

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Posted by ikar01 on Sunday, September 27, 2020 5:04 PM

That deck is insane, I could never do something like that.

 

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:59 PM

The SMS Kronprinz decks are painted and washed, only thing left is to put the final coat of Future on for protection.

Here is what the decks looked like with all colors layed down with the strips of tape removed.

 

Here is the same deck with a top coat of Buff mixed with black and white paint and then a dusting of white paint.

And here is what they look like with a coat wash was added and excess removed.

Now with the decks finished I can get on with painting the hull and adding detail to the deck hatches, etc.. Until next post.

Marcus Beer

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:27 PM

I am planning on some oil canning, was thinking i would do that once the hulls are together.

I have been looking at u-boat.net. The U-552 is an intersting boat for a few reasons. It's the boat that sank the USS Reuban james. It also survived until the end of the war, being scutteled on 2nd May 45. Given the u-boat losses, thats some achievment.

 I found a couple of good pics in one of my books, U-Boat in camera. Its of the U-86, a Type VIIB. A properganda team had rigged a camera above the rear deck to get footage of a u-boat diving. But one image looks straight into the rear of the tower. The periscopes obscure some of it, bt you get enough of an idea. So between that and the kagero book, i am quite pleased with how its come out.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:17 PM

Bish, that's some awesome work mate.

I added some oil canning to mine and added a few more weeks Tongue Tied

Yes the Revell kit is based on U-995. Finding good pics of U boat towers is tough. Have you checked out Uboat.net? I'm sure you found it but there's usually some excellent reference and history to the particular boat you want to build.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:35 AM

Been a few weeks but finally got an update. In my last one i said that i was almost ready to primer the tower. I then made the mistake of checking my referances again and realised it needed some fixing.

Unfortunatly photo's of the inside of towers are tricky to find. It seems that Revell mat have based theirs on U-995 which is on display at ladoe. But this is a late style tower. At the top front of the tower was a shelf which went full width and stuck out to far. This was chopped in half and sanded back. The Eduard PE set has a compass face which goes on this shelf, but that should be on a frame which i will have to build. At the bottom of the tower was another shelf which went right round the sides. Oddly this is where Revell place the voice pipe and compass repeater, almost at floor level. I trimmed this leaveing just a step on either side and built up the front and then put the voice pipe onto the higher shelf. I still have a bit of work to do, including the fitting for the crew to attach their saftey harness to.

I then spent over 2 weeks working on the starboard side of the hull.

I sanded through to far at the rear, so i need to repair that area.

The centre is done.

At the front i still need to fit the new parts around the torpedo doors.

So, after 7 weeks, i'm going to put this to one side to build a couple of aircraft and an armour kit before the year is out. Will be back to this soon.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 9:02 AM

Agree with Marcus.

Another Idea would be pouring resin. You would have to remove the foam since the resin would melt it.

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 7:01 AM

Dodgy,

Nerves are fine and alcohol intake is excellent.

Making good progress with installing the strips, though I seem to get carried away on the amount of strips I been laying down between coats.

Mongoose,

You could put down a layer of sightly crumpble foil and white paint to simulate wave action and work from there with gels to blend in and final details.

Marcus Beer

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  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 4:13 AM

Themongoose that is awsome. A great build, a stunning paint job, and it looks like its going to be an amazing diorama.

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Posted by Dodgy on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 4:06 AM

Thanks Goldhammer. Much appreciated.

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Posted by Dodgy on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 4:03 AM

How are the nerves Marcus??? All that masking pushing the alcohol intake up??

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 11:57 PM

If you are going to use acylic gel for the water you can gently brush it up to the hull and cliff.

After, paint to suit

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Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:39 PM

I'm learning that while i started ok, I've since moved to building this back a$$wards Oops should have kept going with the foam for the sea instead of moving to the build once the waterline hull was complete. Plus then I learned the water should have come before the cliffs lol. Spent a night figuring out how to get the water close enough so that i could blend it into the cliff face. Will definitely need some work prepaint ot meld it all together. 

Looked at this as I was placing the ship and realized that in still water there was almost no way to cover up mistakes in foam to ship because there's no wake. DUH lol

made up the concrete piers from cardboard and woodland scenics plaster lathe. Then made up the little control house I'll call it from styrene pieces. Just laid in place in this photo

working on some miscellaneous elements of the scene. 



im planning some action in the form of a wake in An arc from the yacht. Thinking of putting a small house on the cliff face as well. Lots and lots of little things to bring this scene together.

Any ideas on blending the water to the cliff or on creating a realistic scene appreciated. This is more than I've tried to do in the past And this is alot of fun to create! 

In the pattern: TIRPITZ, the Tamiya 1/350th version.

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:34 PM

Steve, Bish,

Thank you.

Marcus Beer

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 9:10 AM

Marcus, thats some lovely work there, very impressive.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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    July 2014
  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 7:37 AM

Oh I see. I hope he likes it. It's in a museum now.

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, September 21, 2020 11:32 PM

Dodgy was interested in seeing your u-boat and the link wouldn't work for him.  Thought I'd toss in your Puffer as a bonus

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, September 21, 2020 11:04 PM

Wow Marcus, looking good.

GH, what are you up to?

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