T54-E1 FINISHED PICS!

the doog

Member since
January 2007

Posted by the doog on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:38 PM

HeavyArty

I don't understand the rationale behind using seperate wheel/rubber pieces...

They are designed like that to allow for the proper undercut on the inside of the roadwheel. One-piece molded roadwheels are all incorrect since they do not show this undercut.

Ahhh, that's why. Thanks for straightening me out on this, Gino. I thought it was just some marketing nonsense because some guys hate to paint roadwheels. Sad

It makes sense now.

HeavyArty
Also, beware, the turret ring on the kit is way off. The cut-out section around the bottom turret edge is not present in the kit parts. It is not clear if the turret will even rotate without this cut-out section.
Check out more about it at a recent post at Armorama about the kit. Disregard all the whining and compalining. There is good info on how to fix it there.

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=256183&page=1

OMG, boy, you're not kidding about the "whining"

"Styrene abortion"--someone actually used that phrase, haha. Sheesh! Get over it!

Thanks for the heads-up and the link. I hadn't noticed that discrepancy but I do remember reading a discussion on it before when it was announced. I hadn't seen the renewed moan-fest though.

I have studied the problem and think I have a very good solution to it. Different than from what the buider on Armorama has conceived. I'll make sure to document it in detail. Thanks again! Yes Beer

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the doog

Member since
January 2007

Posted by the doog on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:27 PM

Bish

Interesting subject Karl, will be watching.

Surely you must have done an armour kit with top rollers before.

PANZERJAGER

Neet subject Karl.

BTW the smaller wheels ar called return rollers.

lol, do you guys know that I actually had a verified brain fart? I knew what they were called but I've been building those darned Indy cars so long I plum forgot what the parts are called! Big Smile Thanks for the reminders! :)

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the doog

Member since
January 2007

Posted by the doog on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:24 PM

disastermaster

....... Smells good to me.

Good to have you back Karl!

Thanks, Steve! Good to BE back home. Smile

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the doog

Member since
January 2007

Posted by the doog on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 2:24 PM

RBaer

I smell an article......

Is that what that smell is? I thought I burned the lasagna.... Big Smile

You may be right....

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stikpusher

Member since
July 2004
From: Sonora Desert

Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:18 PM

I am in league with Rob and Gamera. Why not do all the "what ifs?" and prototypes that are non third Reich that are inspired by WOT. Especially if it creates new kits and brings in new blood. I am happy to see all these long neglected AFVs from the West coming out.

This project looks like a real sweet one! Looks like an M48 hull with one high speed wazoo new dangled turret.

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Gamera

Member since
November 2009
From: SW Virginia

Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:34 AM

Awesome!!!

I looked at this when it first came out but was put off by the bad reviews and that same thread on Armorama. Looking forward to how you solve the issues here.

I can see the points here about WoT but I'm just happy to see new experimental and rare AFVs that aren't German for a change. I picked up Takom's new T30/34 and T29 and they're beautiful kits, pretty darn good reviews too.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

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PANZERJAGER

Member since
December 2007
From: Eagle River, WI

Posted by PANZERJAGER on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:14 AM

Rob Gronovius

the doog

this baby is REAL, not just a "World of Tanks" fantasy creation (a sad trend, in my opinion )

I don't know, I see it as a positive trend. World of Tanks has gotten gamers to try building model tanks. They are more concerned with replicating their in game tank than accuracy in the model kit. Therefore models that were once panned by modelers have found a second life with gamers unconcerned with accuracy buying the kits to get in game goodies or just wanting to build "their tank".

It's also opened up a fresh vein of casual modelers flowing into the hobby.

Another benefit is that companies will start creating new kits of tanks that appear in game that haven't been done to death like the Tigers and Shermans. We're getting new kits of tanks that existed in prototypes only. This gives more fuel to the modelers who like to do "what if" kits or Luft '46 type builds.

More modelers and more models; I fail to see the downside.

I agree with Rob here.

As en example of a WOT build I did;

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/161366.aspx

Just my 2 cents

PANZERJAGER

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Bish

Member since
December 2002
From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:03 AM

Interesting subject Karl, will be watching.

Surely you must have done an armour kit with top rollers before.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Rob Gronovius

Member since
December 2002
From: Fort Knox

Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM

the doog

this baby is REAL, not just a "World of Tanks" fantasy creation (a sad trend, in my opinion )

I don't know, I see it as a positive trend. World of Tanks has gotten gamers to try building model tanks. They are more concerned with replicating their in game tank than accuracy in the model kit. Therefore models that were once panned by modelers have found a second life with gamers unconcerned with accuracy buying the kits to get in game goodies or just wanting to build "their tank".

It's also opened up a fresh vein of casual modelers flowing into the hobby.

Another benefit is that companies will start creating new kits of tanks that appear in game that haven't been done to death like the Tigers and Shermans. We're getting new kits of tanks that existed in prototypes only. This gives more fuel to the modelers who like to do "what if" kits or Luft '46 type builds.

More modelers and more models; I fail to see the downside.

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HeavyArty

Member since
December 2002
From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:40 AM

I don't understand the rationale behind using seperate wheel/rubber pieces...

They are designed like that to allow for the proper undercut on the inside of the roadwheel. One-piece molded roadwheels are all incorrect since they do not show this undercut. You can see it in the below pic, where the water and leaves are trapped at the bottom.

Also, beware, the turret ring on the kit is way off. The cut-out section around the bottom turret edge is not present in the kit parts. It is not clear if the turret will even rotate without this cut-out section.

Check out more about it at a recent post at Armorama about the kit. Disregard all the whining and compalining. There is good info on how to fix it there.

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=256183&page=1

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PANZERJAGER

Member since
December 2007
From: Eagle River, WI

Posted by PANZERJAGER on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:31 AM

Neet subject Karl.

BTW the smaller wheels ar called return rollers.

PANZERJAGER

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disastermaster

Member since
July 2003
From: On my kitchen counter top somewhere in North Carolina.

Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:30 AM

....... Smells good to me.

Good to have you back Karl!

Sherman-Jumbo-1945

"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"

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RBaer

Member since
September 2006
From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA

Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:24 AM

I smell an article......

Yes

Apprentice rivet counter.

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the doog

Member since
January 2007

T54-E1 FINISHED PICS!

Posted by the doog on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:17 AM

Hi guys,

I haven't been around for a while; I got totally immersed in a frustrating slog of a recent build doing three Indy 500 cars that took me way longer than I had hoped, but now I'm ready for some more armor! Big Smile

I saw this strange beast in Aberdeen in 1986. Back then, the museum and famous "Mile of Tanks" was still basically intact; even all of the heavy German tanks were still there. Some of the massive tanks in the middle of the road going in have now thankfully caught the eyes of some major model manufacturers (LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL M55 SPH, GUYS!! Stick out tongue ) and this baby is REAL, not just a "World of Tanks" fantasy creation (a sad trend, in my opinion Sad )

Ironically, that photo credit goes to the "World of Tanks forum" lol. Anyhoo...

So I'm starting this big sucker.

Here's what you get in the box. In addition to the sprues, you get a small PE fret and of course those dreadful DS tracks. (I'm SO Over DS tracks!--I have some indy-link M48 style tracks on the way).

The build starts with suspension and wheels. I don't understand the rationale behind using seperate wheel/rubber pieces (see left side of instructions). The inner metal part of the wheel is still molded onto the rubber part so you can't just spray the wheel one color and then reduce your labor. All it does is make for double the parts that you have to laboriously clean up. Annoying.