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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:06 PM

This is gonna take some getting used to, Tim.. Gonna have to re-learn how to post... I don't see any 'quote' functions, or do I have to use the typed commands?

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:18 PM

Hi Hans,

Yeah, there are some changes to the look and feel. If you want to quote, go to the link next to the Reply button that says "use rich formatting." That will give you the full-featured text box you're used to, including a button for quoting.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:23 PM

Gotcha..  Ah, there they are..Thanks..

Oh, and just a "heads-up".. Since you came on-board here after the last format-change, get ready for some "interesting" posts about it.. Wink

You're gonna be busy for a couple weeks, Muuhaahahhaaaa....

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:33 PM

Still shaking out, but so far, so good, I like the look.

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:33 PM

I can't see how you edit a post thread title to reflect an update or change in the thread ? am I missing it ??

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:35 PM

Tim Kidwell

Hi Hans,

Yeah, there are some changes to the look and feel. If you want to quote, go to the link next to the Reply button that says "use rich formatting." That will give you the full-featured text box you're used to, including a button for quoting.

TK

Ah, thanks, Tim!  Works like a charm!

I'm in IT myself, so I know what a pain upgrades can be.  To anyone who tells me, "Nothing can go wrong," I reply, "Jurassic Park".

 

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:36 PM

but If I mess up,, will the new Forums eat me ??  ;)

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:36 PM

p38jl

I can't see how you edit a post threar title to reflect an update or change in the thread ? am I missing it ??

Click on the edit-function, the little "pencil" at the bottom of the post.. Then edit the title same as always..

One thing that has appeared to change is that you can no longer edit the title at the top of your reply.. Only the thread that you start..

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:40 PM

hummm....

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:42 PM

Yeah, that's gonna P/O Manstein..

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Posted by p38jl on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:44 PM

Hans von Hammer

Yeah, that's gonna P/O Manstein..

,,, I still don't see how to update a thread title.. at all...   I just wanted to add an update to my Haunted Tank thread to show 1 of the figs is close to done.. can't seem to find it Hans..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:46 PM

Can't update a title unless you go to the first post you made in your thread, I think..

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:48 PM

That is correct. Use the pencil at the bottom of the initial post and you should be able to change the thread's title.

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:48 PM

Change is generally good, but sometimes status-quo is better. Wink

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:49 PM

I see they killed the posts numbers and gave us badges. That should create some drama.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:51 PM

Hold the cursor over the badges if you want to see post-count, Eric..

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:51 PM

Actually, the post counts will be back. The Forum is currently indexing counts, so they won't show up until sometime tomorrow, most likely. With something like 1.4 million posts on the Forum, it takes a while to index everything.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:52 PM

Oh, good! They're up! That's a surprise.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:56 PM

Wish I had more time to play with the new stuff.. Oh, well..  Hopefully, most folks will try to figure the new stuff out before they holler too much about it..

Gotta go..

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:59 PM

My old FSM link took me to a page of latest post from all subjects;

http://cs.finescale.com/FSMCS/forums/TopicsActive.aspx?ForumID=

I've had a quick scout about, but cant seem to find the new version of this page - any ideas?

 

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:02 PM

Milairjunkie

My old FSM link took me to a page of latest post from all subjects;

http://cs.finescale.com/FSMCS/forums/TopicsActive.aspx?ForumID=

I've had a quick scout about, but cant seem to find the new version of this page - any ideas?

 

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Is this what you're looking for?

http://cs.finescale.com/p/recent_discussions.aspx

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Posted by Echo139er on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:03 PM

I too do not have time to look around but one thing that stands out is, the current logged on user link is missing as well as the user search.  Maybe I am just blind.  I will take a better look tonight after work.  Other than that I think the new layout looks pretty clean.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:03 PM

Milairjunkie

My old FSM link took me to a page of latest post from all subjects;

http://cs.finescale.com/FSMCS/forums/TopicsActive.aspx?ForumID=

I've had a quick scout about, but cant seem to find the new version of this page - any ideas?

 

Thanks.

 

List of all active topics, regardless of forum, can be found here:

http://cs.finescale.com/p/recent_discussions.aspx

There is also a link at the top of the main forum listing page called "Recent Discussion" found here:

http://cs.finescale.com/f/

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:21 PM

Echo139er

I too do not have time to look around but one thing that stands out is, the current logged on user link is missing as well as the user search.  Maybe I am just blind.  I will take a better look tonight after work.  Other than that I think the new layout looks pretty clean.

If you click on the home link at the top of the Forums page, you'll go to a page that has recent activity. Scroll down and on the right you'll see a box with avatars for members currently logged in. You click on it to see more.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:20 PM

OK, not be be a whiner, but I don't like there being an extra step in the process to include quotes. I know, I know... that's a minor complaint and I'll get used to it.

I have not had a chance to see what else has changed yet so I'll let you know my feelings as I stumble across them! Wink

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:29 PM

OK, so a comment and a question:

First the comment, relative to the above quote - again it seems like you've replaced something relatively simple with an added layer of complexity. Is there an added benefit?

Now the question (technically a second question): when I typed this reply, I did not want to include the entire quote from both Echo139er and Tim, but I can't seem to be able to edit the portions of the quotes that I include. Is there any way to edit quotes or are you stuck with the whole thing?

Ooops, one other comment - how do I change my settings so that "EMail me replies to this post" is NOT the default setting?

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:30 PM

PS Where'd all my post go? It says I've got 3300 but I used to have closer to 5 grand...

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:33 PM

PPS Ooops, didn't see the other thread on that. So what you are telling me is I had something like 2000 posts in Odds and Ends? :-)

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:33 PM

Apparently some threads were removed and any posts in those are off your count. I am down just over 100. Seems others have lost a few more.

I asked this in the thread in the armour forum, but i think it should really be here. Whats the deal with the stars/medals. It seems we all have 5 in two different colours, not sure how they relkate to post count.

And how come we have lost peoples locations next to their avatr. It can be really useful if you knwo where someone is.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:38 PM

bbrowniii

First the comment, relative to the above quote - again it seems like you've replaced something relatively simple with an added layer of complexity. Is there an added benefit?

It's part and parcel with the software upgrade. That's one thing we can't change.

bbrowniii

This isn't actually a quote from Bbrowniii, just an example.

When you quote, you should be able to edit it by just clicking on the text. Make sure that the quote is still between the HTML code.

It's not our choice

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:40 PM

bbrowniii

OK, so a comment and a question:

First the comment, relative to the above quote - again it seems like you've replaced something relatively simple with an added layer of complexity. Is there an added benefit?

Now the question (technically a second question): when I typed this reply, I did not want to include the entire quote from both Echo139er and Tim, but I can't seem to be able to edit the portions of the quotes that I include. Is there any way to edit quotes or are you stuck with the whole thing?

Ooops, one other comment - how do I change my settings so that "EMail me replies to this post" is NOT the

OK, disregard that second question. I just figured it out... again, just another layer in the process. Now instead of being able to quote someone with one click, it takes three....

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:40 PM

The reason there is an extra step involved with getting to the Rich Text Editor to be able to include quotes is because of the quick reply option included in this version of the software.  If a member wants to quickly respond to a post in the forums (just text with no formatting, pictures, quotes, etc..), they type away into the text box that appears below each post (or when the reply button is clicked), post, and are finished.

However, if additional formatting is desired (bolding, italics, pictures, smileys, quoting, etc...), a separate page is needed to handle the additional functionality.

Yes, you can select parts of a quote instead of the entire thing if you want.  All you have to do is click the "Use Rich Formatting" option (instead of the quick reply), highlight the area of the quote with your mouse and then click the "Quote" button.

For example, here is a small snippet of your original post as a quote:

bbrowniii
OK, so a comment and a question:

Unfortunately, the default setting for the e-mail replies check box can't be changed at the individual user level.  You can modify your e-mail settings though by clicking the "E-mail" tab under the "Community Settings" page located here.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:42 PM

Tim Kidwell

When you quote, you should be able to edit it by just clicking on the text. Make sure that the quote is still between the HTML code.

It's not our choice

 
Thanks for the quick reply Tim. I'm slowly figuring out how to do stuff.
 
So, just out of curiousity... obviously we are bringing out the things that have changed, and as you say, many of them are part and parcel with the software upgrade. So, other than changing things up on us, what benefits will this upgrade have?

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:43 PM

Bish

I asked this in the thread in the armour forum, but i think it should really be here. Whats the deal with the stars/medals. It seems we all have 5 in two different colours, not sure how they relkate to post count.

Actually, medals range from none to five red. It's a measure of activity on the Forum: none= usually lurkers or new members; five red medals=our most active members. 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:43 PM

Good to know. Thanks Craig.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:46 PM

Tim Kidwell

Bish

I asked this in the thread in the armour forum, but i think it should really be here. Whats the deal with the stars/medals. It seems we all have 5 in two different colours, not sure how they relkate to post count.

Actually, medals range from none to five red. It's a measure of activity on the Forum: none= usually lurkers or new members; five red medals=our most active members. 


 
Got ur, thanks. And i hope your getting over time for all this Smile
 
Actually the quote thing isn't to bad. Its only one extra click, but seeing as you get the quick reply function, that evens it out. So i like that idea.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:51 PM

bbrowniii
So, just out of curiousity... obviously we are bringing out the things that have changed, and as you say, many of them are part and parcel with the software upgrade. So, other than changing things up on us, what benefits will this upgrade have?

There's a number of things.  Just to name a few off the top of my head...

A lot of improvements have been made "behind the scenes" to make the community load faster.  In fact a majority of the back end has been completely redone in this version of the platform.

There is also an new search integrated into this version.  It should work a lot better than the old one and can use syntax similar to Google search.  So in other words, things like using double quotes and "AND, OR, etc..." should work.  Also improved filtering.

There's also a mobile version of the community.  If you view the forums on an iPhone, Android, Windows 7 phone, Blackberry, etc..  You'll be directed into a version of the forums optimized for a smaller mobile layout.

A FAQ or help page has also been included.  It might be worth while to scan through it when you have a chance.  There's a lot of good information in there.

There's a lot more too, but those are probably the most important ones Big Smile

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:53 PM

Craig,

Thanks for that info. Those are benefits that I can live with.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:32 PM

it seems the way to post pictures has changed as well. I cant just copy and paste the IMG code from Photobucket anymore.

Now, I have to copy the direct link code, click the button for adding an image, copy it in there, then post. Before I only had two clicks, now there's 4 or more! Is there an easier way, because the old way was MUCH quicker....

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Posted by carsanab on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:34 PM

its seems like a very cluttered look....the fact that before you could see all the recent posts regardless of the topic made it more inviting to join other conversations and topics...especially ones that you dont usually participate in but would go because a post would catch your eye....now you cant do that. I dont see that as a very "open" forum format. With the old format, as a mainly aircraft builder, I really wouldnt open say a auto post unless the thread was interesting or like I said caught my eye, BUT it was there to consider. Now only the most recent of each is shown and you have to scroll down through all the topics...I dont know....just ranting....but it seemed more like a community before.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:39 PM

carsanab

its seems like a very cluttered look....the fact that before you could see all the recent posts regardless of the topic made it more inviting to join other conversations and topics...especially ones that you dont usually participate in but would go because a post would catch your eye....now you cant do that. I dont see that as a very "open" forum format. With the old format, as a mainly aircraft builder, I really wouldnt open say a auto post unless the thread was interesting or like I said caught my eye, BUT it was there to consider. Now only the most recent of each is shown and you have to scroll down through all the topics...I dont know....just ranting....but it seemed more like a community before.

Carlos aka GRL

yeah, I liked that function too. Sad

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Posted by carsanab on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:44 PM

oh,,,,and how do you post pics now....Im having the same problem as Owl..

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:44 PM

Is this the page you are referring to?  This page should display all recent posts regardless of the forum it was posted to like before.

Recent Discussions

It can also be found at the top of the main forums page.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:47 PM

CallSignOWL

it seems the way to post pictures has changed as well. I cant just copy and paste the IMG code from Photobucket anymore.

Now, I have to copy the direct link code, click the button for adding an image, copy it in there, then post. Before I only had two clicks, now there's 4 or more! Is there an easier way, because the old way was MUCH quicker....

Let me do some digging into this one.  I find it strange that this wouldn't work any more.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:55 PM

Craig Kuhlow

Is this the page you are referring to?  This page should display all recent posts regardless of the forum it was posted to like before.

Recent Discussions

It can also be found at the top of the main forums page.

I'm not getting that on the forums main page. I am just getting the different sections. This feature of most recent posts is deffinatly useful, as OWL said, it often leads me to threads i sometimes wouldn't go to.

Another issue i am having is that when i click latest post, sometimes it takes to the last post in the thread, others it take me to the start of the thread.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:59 PM

OK, posting pictures from PhotoBucket by copying the img code should work now.  Here is a test just to make sure.

Let me know if you continue to have problems with it.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:01 PM

I'm not getting that on the forums main page. I am just getting the different sections. This feature of most recent posts is deffinatly useful, as OWL said, it often leads me to threads i sometimes wouldn't go to.

Bish, when you go to the main forums page, click the View Recent Posts button and that will take you to the full listing.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:04 PM

Ye, got it. I misunderstood. I thought Craig meant the recent posts were at the top of the main page.

Thanks.

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:49 PM

Here's a quirk. Sorry if already mentioned.  When viewing on my phone... says FSM Mobile at the top... at the Community Activity page and I click on a thread... it takes me to the "Full Site" sized stuff.  Way to small to use.  And when it does that how do you get back to the mobile app?

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:00 PM

Is one of the technical issues the look? Because this is ugly. What fit in a few lines before now takes half a page. I don't come here to play with all the little functions, I come to read about models and who's building what. What issues they have, what techniques they use and how they apply them. I thought that's what this place is supposed to be about.

Not that it matters, but there's my opinion.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:03 PM

do the threads change colors when you read them? Ive read a few and they've not changed. This will be a problem in keeping track of what ive read

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:40 AM

In one thread (Your Lurking Stash), I've tried replying to the last post, but the reply box (like the one I'm using here now) does not appear. I've tried reloading the page and using the reply button on several different posts in that thread as well.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:15 AM

CallSignOWL

do the threads change colors when you read them? Ive read a few and they've not changed. This will be a problem in keeping track of what ive read

Threads that have not been viewed should remain bold in color.  Ones that have been viewed should have a normal font weight.  You can also use the "Unread" tab that appears at the top of each thread listing page.  Keep in mind though that the "Unread" tab is only for unread threads, not posts (replies to the thread).  So if you read the thread and someone replies, the thread is still flagged as being read since you already opened it.  

To view all recent activity regardless if it's a new thread or a reply you should use the "All Recent" tab.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:20 AM

Wingman_kz

Is one of the technical issues the look? Because this is ugly. What fit in a few lines before now takes half a page. I don't come here to play with all the little functions, I come to read about models and who's building what. What issues they have, what techniques they use and how they apply them. I thought that's what this place is supposed to be about.

Not that it matters, but there's my opinion.

Tony

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:22 AM

wing_nut

Here's a quirk. Sorry if already mentioned.  When viewing on my phone... says FSM Mobile at the top... at the Community Activity page and I click on a thread... it takes me to the "Full Site" sized stuff.  Way to small to use.  And when it does that how do you get back to the mobile app?

Not all functionality of the "full site" is included in the "mobile" version unfortunately.  So depending on what the activity was could explain why it pushed you into the "full site" instead.  

There should be a "Mobile" link in the footer that allows a user to return to mobile, but it doesn't appear to be included at the moment.  I will include that on my "to do" list.  Thanks for the heads up.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:44 AM

Tim and Craig,

I know a number of new threads have popped up where people are expressing their opinions about the "new" site. To keep things simple, I'll try to keep my comments/observations here.

Three things that I have observed:

First, as OWL said, the way the threads titles change colors (or don't) after you read them. I know Craig responded to those comments in the quote below. But here is my 'issue': If I am doing a quick glance through the forums, there is no real easy way to tell which thread that I am participating in have had some new activity if the title stays the same. I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that if there is a new post then the authors name in the 'Latest post' column is bolded, but that results in a lot of back and forth, big font to small font. I find it to be very fatiguing after a while.

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Threads that have not been viewed should remain bold in color.  Ones that have been viewed should have a normal font weight.  You can also use the "Unread" tab that appears at the top of each thread listing page.  Keep in mind though that the "Unread" tab is only for unread threads, not posts (replies to the thread).  So if you read the thread and someone replies, the thread is still flagged as being read since

 

Second: there is a ton of white space. In particular, there is no clear boundary between where a post ends and a persons sig line begins. Oftentimes, I have found a signature to be spaced in such a way that it seems like the next paragraph in a post and I'll be half way through it before I realize what it is.

Third: in the "old-new" forum, you could click on a person's post count and a list of all there posts would pop up. So if I was looking for a thread, but could not recall the name of it but, for instance, knew that Manny had posted in it, I could click his post count and scroll back to find the post, and thus, the thread. It was a very useful tool. Is that functionality still there and just 'hidden' somewhere?

 

 

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Posted by Echo139er on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:51 AM

It seems like the current logged on users section is not working.  It has not showed more than nine since the site came back.    That is only 0.017%.

Also, where do we search for users?  Is that gone?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:09 AM

As I've stated in another thread:

This is the way I see it using an old analogy...the first format change took us from a 50,000 foot level of looking at the site to about a 30,000 foot overview...most people used that analogy back then.  In the "old" formats you had a sense that you had a good "overview" of the Forum and then could drill down to what you wanted...

Well now, I feel like I am no longer overlooking the Forum at all and seeing the big picture.  Now I feel like I'm at ZERO feet (on the ground) and I'm lost in a maze of weeds...

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Posted by Medicman71 on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:28 AM

Echo139er

It seems like the current logged on users section is not working.  It has not showed more than nine since the site came back.    That is only 0.017%.

Also, where do we search for users?  Is that gone?

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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:40 AM

Well, overall, I liked it. Cleaner look, great quick response area, much more responsive.  I'm sure most of the quirks will get worked out.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:52 AM

Echo139er

It seems like the current logged on users section is not working.  It has not showed more than nine since the site came back. 

More online users should be appearing now. Also, members are able to turn off so they aren't visible in the list. 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:59 PM

Ummm, since you responded to post after mine, should I assume my comments/questions got 'lost in the sauce' and I should repost them?

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:08 PM

bbrowniii
First, as OWL said, the way the threads titles change colors (or don't) after you read them. I know Craig responded to those comments in the quote below. But here is my 'issue': If I am doing a quick glance through the forums, there is no real easy way to tell which thread that I am participating in have had some new activity if the title stays the same. I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that if there is a new post then the authors name in the 'Latest post' column is bolded, but that results in a lot of back and forth, big font to small font. I find it to be very fatiguing

 

Apparently, I was actually wrong about this. From what I can see, there is no way to distinguish threads that you have read and those you have not. For example, I have read the 'Yep, testing this new forum' thread. However, it remains bolded, so a couple of times I have glanced at it, assumed that since it was bold there was something new, went in to take a look and found the same old stuff. That sucks.

 

It is also frustrating that you now have to go through a multi-step process to get to the thread you participate in. Usually, if I'm in a thread and I see a comment by a user it will often spark me to think "Oh yeah, that reminds me, I have to go over to this other thread to make a comment or check on something". It used to be pretty simple since the link to get to threads you have participated in was always in the right hand column. Now you gotta hunt and peck for it. That kinda sucks as well.

I know, I know, these are all things that I'll get used to. Doesn't mean I'm going to be happy about it. Since I don't use a mobile device, it seems like most of the benefits of the new forum are lost to me...

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:14 PM

bbrowniii

Ummm, since you responded to post after mine, should I assume my comments/questions got 'lost in the sauce' and I should repost them?

No, I read your post so you shouldn't have to repost it again.  Sorry, not ignoring you, just been a busy day.  

The issue with being able to click a person's post count and view all there posts I know about.  There is a slight issue with how the posts are being calculated which is why it's turned off at the moment.  Working on a fix at the moment and will post when it's been fixed.

The signature white space issue could probably be changed.  I'll have to take a look at the styling.

I'll take a look at the "read" versus "unread" styling when I have a moment to see if there is something that can be done.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:17 PM

Sorry Bbrowniii, 

We're working on October and November's issues, too, so we have to get to the messages when we can.

And Craig came in as I was typing, so I'll just delete everything else I said.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:42 PM

Tim

No worries. I understand there is a lot of jumping through the hoops right now.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:43 PM

Craig

Thanks for getting back to me on that. As I just posted to Tim, I know you guys are probably doing a bit of double duty with responding to all the comments and critiques about the new forum.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:29 PM

bbrowniii

Second: there is a ton of white space. In particular, there is no clear boundary between where a post ends and a persons sig line begins. Oftentimes, I have found a signature to be spaced in such a way that it seems like the next paragraph in a post and I'll be half way through it before I realize what it is.

yeah, that bugged me too. So I 'fixed' it myself by adding a

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Posted by Echo139er on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:30 PM

In “Recent Discussions”,  you have the option to sort by Topic, Date, and Replies.

The date sort is not working.  It does not make  a difference in the sort order where you select asc or desc.  

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:34 PM

Echo,

I'm not sure why it's not working for you. I just tried it in the Aircraft section and changing it altered the top listed post from today to sometime in 2006.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:36 PM

for the differences in read/unread threads, would it be possible to include a color change as well? Like change the title to blue (or something) if its been read, with thin font, and then blue-bold font when new posts show up?

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Posted by Echo139er on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:39 PM

Aaron Skinner

Echo,

I'm not sure why it's not working for you. I just tried it in the Aircraft section and changing it altered the top listed post from today to sometime in 2006.

Aaron, that is correct.  The sorting works fine in the aircraft section and I suspect in others, but it is not workin in the Recent Discussions section.  I just tried it again.

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Posted by Blueline on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:41 PM

Echo139er
Aaron, that is correct.  The sorting works fine in the aircraft section and I suspect in others, but it is not workin in the Recent Discussions section.  I just tried it again.

Same for me.  In Recent section, sorting doesn't work.  Im using Firefox 13.0.1

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:41 PM

Owl,

Craig is looking into the possibility of doing that. We'll keep you posted.

Cheers, Aaron

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:42 PM

Hi guys,

I see it too. We'll get it looked at.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:43 PM

CallSignOWL

for the differences in read/unread threads, would it be possible to include a color change as well? Like change the title to blue (or something) if its been read, with thin font, and then blue-bold font when new posts show up?


 
Something like that would be great.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:00 PM

Hey Tim,

How do you find out who is online?

                   

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Posted by leemitcheltree on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:32 PM

Seriously - the new "expanded, bigger, better" format is awful.

Now, instead of getting 10-15-20 threads on ONE SCREEN....so you can have a quick glance at everything....you get two items per screen - and have to continuously scroll down .

This is not a visual or "user friendly" improvement.

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:48 PM

I am gonna guess this has been asked and answered but the mountain of stuff posted so fast... can't wade through it to find out.

Can the rich formatting be made the default instead of having to click it every time?

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:26 PM

Seems we need to click on the

use the rich formatting command

each time

 

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:16 PM

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Wingman_kz

Is one of the technical issues the look? Because this is ugly. What fit in a few lines before now takes half a page. I don't come here to play with all the little functions, I come to read about models and who's building what. What issues they have, what techniques they use and how they apply them. I thought that's what this place is supposed to be about.

Not that it matters, but there's my opinion.

Tony

An alternative if you do not wish to come directly to the website to view the forum threads is to subscribe to a forum either via e-mail or via RSS.

Each forum has an RSS feed attached to it.  You can usually find the links in the right column right below the advertisements.  

For example here is the RSS feed for the "Aircraft" forum:
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Subscribing to the forums via e-mail alerts can be done from the  Email Notifications page.  The link is in the profile box located just above the advertisements.  Same box that has your avatar inside of it.

Why on earth would I do that? It's worse than looking at this page. Email notifications? lol Sure, I want my inbox overrun.

I just don't understand Kalmbach's need to turn this place upside down every couple of years. Aren't there enough falling outs and disagreements without intentionally creating this? I don't get it. A line from Outlaw Jose Wales comes to mind...

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:49 PM

Ok...when are we switchin` back to the old format ? Wink

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:07 PM

Could you guys add the forums to the bottom of the thread like on the old style, that way you don't have to scroll to the top every time to move along.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:08 PM

why aren't any of my subscribed threads sending me notifications when there's a new post?

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:26 PM

This has probably come up, but i liked the old way of being able to click "Your discussions" or something like that and it would come up with everything you've posted in. Not just threads you started. And with the ones that havent seen activity since your last perusal being greyed out. Maybe thats just the "I hate change" person in me.

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:39 AM

I have got a question, what are the medals? And why do I have grey medals and some other people red?

And my date of joining the forums had dropped...and I was working towards my 10th aniversery Crying

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:10 AM

Scorpiomikey
This has probably come up, but i liked the old way of being able to click "Your discussions" or something like that and it would come up with everything you've posted in. Not just threads you started.

Mikey,

At the right of the screen, on your profile panel, click "Your discussions" - Hey presto, all the threads you've posted in, in order of your most recent activity. Big Smile

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Posted by satch_ip on Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:02 AM

First impression is way too much wasted space on the page.  I know you can't please everybody and upgrading and changing people's cheese can cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth.  So thanks for the product and service you provide.

Oh, and one more thing.  Putting the thread tree back on the bottom would be very helpful.  Not having to scroll back to the top when you read the latest posts was one of the best features of this board as opposed to most of it's competition. 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:46 AM

Borg R3-MC0

I have got a question, what are the medals? And why do I have grey medals and some other people red?

And my date of joining the forums had dropped...and I was working towards my 10th aniversery Crying

The medals relate to your post count. From what i can gather, your number of medals go up until you hit 5. And then they change colour to red.

Ye, i noticed the join date has gone as well, along with the location. And i am coming up to my 10th as well.

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:27 AM

tigerman

Could you guys add the forums to the bottom of the thread like on the old style, that way you don't have to scroll to the top every time to move along.

Yeah!  What he said.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:30 AM

And a latest post button at the top of all pages. Now, you have to go back to the main page every time and then to recent posts.

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Posted by spacepacker on Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:44 AM

Help...I'm lost.. What have you done and why???. Every time I click on forums as we used to I get a message about mantainence..

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:51 AM

i see that the titles change to thin font when you read them, but only in their forum. In my "discussions" list ALL of them are bold. Even after I read them. Makes it hard to figure out which ones have new posts

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:42 AM

Craig Kuhlow
The issue with being able to click a person's post count and view all there posts I know about.  There is a slight issue with how the posts are being calculated which is why it's turned off at the moment.  Working on a fix at the moment and will post when it's been pushed out.

This should be fixed now.  You can either click a members badges in a thread to view all their posts, or you can also go to their profile by clicking their username or avatar, and then click their post total right next to their avatar in their profile.

Just as an FYI also for those that didn't know this, you can hover over any of the badges with your mouse to see the actual post counts as well instead of going to their profile.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:50 AM

Craig Kuhlow
The signature white space issue could probably be changed.  I'll have to take a look at the styling.

I just added some spacing to the top of signature lines to help separate between the post body and a members signature.  Hope this helps.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:58 AM

wing_nut
Can the rich formatting be made the default instead of having to click it every time?

Yes, however doing so would remove the "quick post" option for members that want to type a quick reply without the additional formatting.  So there is a trade off.  This is a decision that would need to be made from the powers above me.  But it can be done.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:02 AM

Hmmmm, getting the hang of where things have gone, or how they act differently. Just had an issue though!

I posted a pic from Photobucket in the Saab GB thread ( cs.finescale.com/.../1581686.aspx ). Saw it in my post afterwards, even had a reply from bsyamato, so he had seen it. Now the pic seems to have disappeared??

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:04 AM

CallSignOWL
why aren't any of my subscribed threads sending me notifications when there's a new post?

I just looked at your account settings and it appears everything is configured properly.  I am subscribed to a couple threads in the forums and have been receiving them so the e-mail job appears to be working.

One thing that has come up in the past is that sometimes the e-mail gets flagged as spam by some e-mail clients or automatically goes into a junk folder.  So you might want to check those folders.  The e-mails should be coming from noreply@finescale.com.  You might want to try adding that address to your trusted list.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:08 AM

Scorpiomikey
This has probably come up, but i liked the old way of being able to click "Your discussions" or something like that and it would come up with everything you've posted in. Not just threads you started. And with the ones that havent seen activity since your last perusal being greyed out. Maybe thats just the "I hate change" person in me.

Hi Scorpiomikey.

There is a page in the community that will display all discussions you have participated in regardless if you started a thread or posted a reply.  You can find it in the profile box that is located right above the advertisements in the right column.  There should be a link called "Your Discussions" right below messages.

Alternatively, here is the direct link to the your discussions page for your reference: 

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:16 AM

Hi Borg.

According the system you joined the community on 9/29/2004.  Are you seeing something different somewhere else?  Or is it supposed to be something different?  Let me know I can investigate further.

The medals are kind of like bragger badges or rankings. Here's a quick run down of the medals and what they mean.  Eventually this information will also be on the help page.

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1 medal = 25 - 74 posts
2 medals = 75 - 249 posts
3 medals = 250 - 499 posts
4 medals = 500 - 999 posts
5 medals = 1000 - 2999 posts
5 orange medals = more than 3000 posts 

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:19 AM

VanceCrozier

Hmmmm, getting the hang of where things have gone, or how they act differently. Just had an issue though!

I posted a pic from Photobucket in the Saab GB thread ( cs.finescale.com/.../1581686.aspx ). Saw it in my post afterwards, even had a reply from bsyamato, so he had seen it. Now the pic seems to have disappeared??

Did the path to the picture have a tilde "~" in it by any chance?  There is a known issue with image paths and tildes that I am currently working with support on.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:26 AM

Craig Kuhlow

VanceCrozier

Hmmmm, getting the hang of where things have gone, or how they act differently. Just had an issue though!

I posted a pic from Photobucket in the Saab GB thread ( cs.finescale.com/.../1581686.aspx ). Saw it in my post afterwards, even had a reply from bsyamato, so he had seen it. Now the pic seems to have disappeared??

Did the path to the picture have a tilde "~" in it by any chance?  There is a known issue with image paths and tildes that I am currently working with support on.

Nope, direct link to that photo is:

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Saab%20JAS-39%20Grippen/IMG_3110sm.jpg

Might there be an issue with the web code for the spaces?? ( %20 ) I've seen that confuse the occasional browser.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:31 AM

VanceCrozier

Nope, direct link to that photo is:

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Saab%20JAS-39%20Grippen/IMG_3110sm.jpg

Might there be an issue with the web code for the spaces?? ( %20 ) I've seen that confuse the occasional browser.

No, that shouldn't matter.  %20 basically translates into a space.  It looks like the photo posted for me.  Could you give it another try?  My hope is that it was the infamous Internet hiccup.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:40 AM

Craig Kuhlow

VanceCrozier

Nope, direct link to that photo is:

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Saab%20JAS-39%20Grippen/IMG_3110sm.jpg

Might there be an issue with the web code for the spaces?? ( %20 ) I've seen that confuse the occasional browser.

No, that shouldn't matter.  %20 basically translates into a space.  It looks like the photo posted for me.  Could you give it another try?  My hope is that it was the infamous Internet hiccup.

ahhh - the HiCCUP! I'll go back & try to add the image again.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:43 AM

Looks like it's holding this time. Thanks Craig,

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:54 AM

Craig Kuhlow

CallSignOWL
why aren't any of my subscribed threads sending me notifications when there's a new post?

I just looked at your account settings and it appears everything is configured properly.  I am subscribed to a couple threads in the forums and have been receiving them so the e-mail job appears to be working.

One thing that has come up in the past is that sometimes the e-mail gets flagged as spam by some e-mail clients or automatically goes into a junk folder.  So you might want to check those folders.  The e-mails should be coming from noreply@finescale.com.  You might want to try adding that address to your trusted list.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:43 PM

Craig

Any chance on changing the way thread titles change when you have read them vs. not read them. Or when they have been read, but there are new posts?

And, as OWL said, while in the main forum a title will go from bold to regular when I have read the thread, in "My Discussions" everything remains bold. Very confusing and just a bit frustrating.

PS Thanks for adding the extra space between the end of a post and the signature line. It definately helps.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:57 PM

bbrowniii

Craig

Any chance on changing the way thread titles change when you have read them vs. not read them. Or when they have been read, but there are new posts?

And, as OWL said, while in the main forum a title will go from bold to regular when I have read the thread, in "My Discussions" everything remains bold. Very confusing and just a bit frustrating.

PS Thanks for adding the extra space between the end of a post and the signature line. It definately helps.

Hi Bbrowniii.

Unfortunately I can't change the thread titles based on whether a user has read or not read the recent activity in the thread.  It's difficult to do something like that based on an individual user level.  I did update the colors a little bit to try and distinguish a little more between a thread that was read versus ones that aren't though.

I noticed the issue with some threads appearing as unread in the actual forum and then appearing as read in the "Recent Discussions" page.  Not 100% sure why that's occurring.  I pushed out a minor change that I'm hoping will prevent it from happening.  I have to do a little bit more monitoring on this one though.  I'll keep you posted.  Thanks for letting me know.

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Posted by Echo139er on Thursday, June 28, 2012 4:02 PM

I noticed the sort by date option is now gone (Recent Posts).  Are you bringing it back?

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:19 PM
Okay, cgecking this out on my mobile devuxe of choice, iPod. It appears that i can add to the posts unlike the previous version. Liking that! It looks like it loads post #1 of the thread though, and i have to keep loading more posts - verry annoying in a long thread. Am i missing something?

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Posted by Echo139er on Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:50 PM

Nope.... That's it.

You also cannot get to your PMs.  At least without having to go to the regular site.  Maybe I too am missing something.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:01 PM

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bbrowniii

Craig

Any chance on changing the way thread titles change when you have read them vs. not read them. Or when they have been read, but there are new posts?

And, as OWL said, while in the main forum a title will go from bold to regular when I have read the thread, in "My Discussions" everything remains bold. Very confusing and just a bit frustrating.

PS Thanks for adding the extra space between the end of a post and the signature line. It definately helps.

Hi Bbrowniii.

Unfortunately I can't change the thread titles based on whether a user has read or not read the recent activity in the thread.  It's difficult to do something like that based on an individual user level.  I did update the colors a little bit to try and distinguish a little more between a thread that was read versus ones that aren't though.

I noticed the issue with some threads appearing as unread in the actual forum and then appearing as read in the "Recent Discussions" page.  Not 100% sure why that's occurring.  I pushed out a minor change that I'm hoping will prevent it from happening.  I have to do a little bit more monitoring on this one though.  I'll keep you posted.  Thanks for letting me know.

So what your saying is all the code that did that on the old forums, you just threw away and started over?

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:21 PM

Thanks for being so responsive Craig.

I did notice something else, however.  In my PMs or Conversations or whatever they are called in the new forum, it says I've got 86 unread messages??!! I've read EVERY message in there. Now I can't tell when I actually do get a new message. Is there a way to 'Mark all as read' so that I can start 'fresh'?

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:23 PM

 

Scorpiomikey
Unfortunately I can't change the thread titles based on whether a user has read or not read the recent activity in the thread.  It's difficult to do something like that based on an individual user level.

Scorpiomikey
So what your saying is all the code that did that on the old forums, you just threw away and started over?

Not to be a ***, but that is kind of a good point - why could it work that way on the old, 'bad' forum, but it is too complex for the new updated one?

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Posted by mfsob on Friday, June 29, 2012 8:15 AM

This new BLINDING WHITE background and TINY BLACK typeface is eating my lunch. I mean killing my old eyes.

But ... I am not a subscriber and therefore realize my ranking in things.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, June 29, 2012 8:25 AM

Scorpiomikey

So what your saying is all the code that did that on the old forums, you just threw away and started over?

To all,

Craig has been working hard to accomodate everyone he can. A little consideration and moderation of tone goes a long way. Nothing was simply tossed. A lot of things change because of the software package -- which was not designed by Craig or anyone else here. On the other hand, a lot of the cool things you're experiencing with the mobile side are because of months of diligent work by Craig and others on our online team. What we can change internally to make the experience better, we will. Other things will have to be taken up with the provider and may have to wait for a patch.

Stay experience specific and please refrain from editorializing.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, June 29, 2012 9:15 AM

Scorpiomikey

So what your saying is all the code that did that on the old forums, you just threw away and started over?

I suspect it is just a case of "old software doesn't completely cooperate with old software". Dealing with this sort of thing (admittedly outside the actual programming) at the office, changing from one piece of software to another piece of software & still have it play well with pre-existing data (all the threads/posts/conversations/user IDs etc etc) is no small feat.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Friday, June 29, 2012 9:22 AM

bbrowniii

 

Scorpiomikey
Unfortunately I can't change the thread titles based on whether a user has read or not read the recent activity in the thread.  It's difficult to do something like that based on an individual user level.

Scorpiomikey
So what your saying is all the code that did that on the old forums, you just threw away and started over?

Not to be a ***, but that is kind of a good point - why could it work that way on the old, 'bad' forum, but it is too complex for the new updated one?

You guys bring up a valid point and I understand where you're coming from.  One thing you do have to understand tho is that our company didn't build this community platform so a majority of the code wasn't developed by me.  We purchased it many years ago from a community platform vendor.  Around 2006 or 2007 I believe.  Anyway, it was before I joined Kalmbach.

The difficult thing with working with a platform that is built by someone else (as opposed to building it from scratch within the company) is that you're often at the mercy of what the software vendor builds since they write the code that you will be using.  Now I'm not saying that we can't change anything, because we can and did to a degree, but depending on what the change is, it can be rather difficult and time consuming.  There were quite a few customization's that were built into this system to accommodate  some of the items that were made obsolete or replaced with the newer release.   The previous site was 3 versions behind and was outdated and was no longer supported by our vendor for troubleshooting.

There's also the issue with support and future upgrades and releases.  The more you customize and tweak a system, the more complex it becomes to upgrade it when a new release come out.  Since we have 9 communities to maintain (Finescale is just one of them), we try our best to keep them all as uniform as possible so that upgrading becomes more seamless when the time comes to do it.

So we really didn't throw away any code per say.  We did however have to rewrite some things in order to keep some of the features that were no longer supported or replaced.

Hope that explanation helps.  There's a lot more to it than that, but that is the basis behind it all.  Technology advances and usually doesn't wait around unfortunately.  I know the pain of it too working in this field.  Something as basic as a new release of Internet Explorer or Firefox for example can cause some major headaches.  It keeps me and my co-workers busy though, and makes me feel special when I figure out how to fix it Smile

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Posted by Echo139er on Friday, June 29, 2012 9:28 AM

Will you be upgrading the Scale Auto forum as well?

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, June 29, 2012 9:31 AM

Echo139er

Will you be upgrading the Scale Auto forum as well?

You'd have to talk to Jim or Jenny at ScaleAuto for details concerning their forum.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Friday, June 29, 2012 9:32 AM

Yes. All of our titles will be converted eventually.  Most already have.  Scale Auto should be coming up soon I believe.  I don't have a definitive date tho.  There should be postings on that sites forums as the date gets closer though.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Friday, June 29, 2012 3:07 PM

I just want to give you guys a hand for being so patient with all of us while we get used to the new format. Kudos to you! :)

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:56 AM

Sure would be nice to have a "Go To Last Unread" option.  I'm really not liking not having a "Last Page"/"First Page" button on multi-page topics.  The amount of whitespace is still jarring me--I keep going to "View" and checking that I've not "Zoomed Text Only."

Further, I'm still not sure I can see photos in the threads--given how FF 13.0.1 is responding to pages, I'm presently loath to go to a picture-heavy post just to check.

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Posted by redleg12 on Saturday, June 30, 2012 7:22 AM

Tim and Craig

As one of the "old timers" here on the forums who has been through a few of these format changes I have to say this is one of the more smoother. I am still walking through like it was a mine field but also giving it time.

My only complaint at this time is I HATE the look for each member....I miss and would love to see returned the

Date you started on the forum,

Where you are from,

Medals are nice but want the post count put back,

Lastly, the medal format seems low....after 3000 you top out, may want to expand...add a third color

Sorry for being a PITA....that's what old timers do...

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:27 AM

redleg12

Lastly, the medal format seems low....after 3000 you top out, may want to expand...add a third color

Sorry for being a PITA....that's what old timers do...

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:58 PM

Tim Kidwell
A lot of things change because of the software package -- which was not designed by Craig or anyone else here. On the other hand, a lot of the cool things you're experiencing with the mobile side are because of months of diligent work by Craig and others

 

Tim

I understand your desire for us to keep things reasonable. I think that is only fair - as you said, Craig and you are not the ones 'to blame' for everything that we might be disatsified with.

At the same time, please understand that some of us don't use mobile devices to access the site, so if the 'advantages' of this change acrued primarily to them, we might be feeling a bit... frustrated.

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:04 PM

Criag

Just so you know, I am not blaming your, personally, for any of the features that I dislike about the new forum. I'll apologize if you feel like I was doing that - it was not my intent.

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, July 2, 2012 9:49 AM

I'm noticing something, that when you get an email notification about a reply to post, thread, etc, that when you click the link in the email , It randomly takes to places in the thread.. not to the last post, sometimes it does tho, sometimes its to the top of the page that the last post was on..

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, July 2, 2012 3:24 PM

TIm, Craig

Any insight on that PM/Conversations issue that I've been having?

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Monday, July 2, 2012 3:29 PM

Are you referring to the "85" unread messages and wanting to clear that out?  I should be able to do that for you.  Let me know.  Thanks.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Monday, July 2, 2012 3:30 PM

Hi Bbrowniii,

Sorry, I'm tied up with getting the next issue of the magazine out, so I haven't had a chance to talk to anyone about it. Both of us are aware of your PM report and will get back to you with a solution as quickly as we can.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, July 2, 2012 3:36 PM

Thanks Tim.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:08 AM

VanceCrozier
Okay, checking this out on my mobile device of choice, iPod. It appears that i can add to the posts unlike the previous version. Liking that! It looks like it loads post #1 of the thread though, and i have to keep loading more posts - verry annoying in a long thread. Am i missing something?

(Bumping back to newest page! Whistling)

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:27 AM

VanceCrozier

VanceCrozier
Okay, checking this out on my mobile device of choice, iPod. It appears that i can add to the posts unlike the previous version. Liking that! It looks like it loads post #1 of the thread though, and i have to keep loading more posts - verry annoying in a long thread. Am i missing something?

(Bumping back to newest page! Whistling)

Unfortunately the mobile version of the community does not have all the features included in the "full site" at this time.  This includes not being able to sort replies to a thread.  At the moment all replies to a thread will be loaded in order that they were created so that the first replies appear first. 

We are looking at more ways to improve the mobile experience and have more of the options available in the full site available in mobile as well.  So it is likely that this will be remedied in a future release of the mobile version of the community.

If you prefer you can also view the "full site" by clicking the "full site" link located at the bottom of the mobile page.  This will allow you to take advantage of more of the features.  

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:35 AM

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VanceCrozier

VanceCrozier
Okay, checking this out on my mobile device of choice, iPod. It appears that i can add to the posts unlike the previous version. Liking that! It looks like it loads post #1 of the thread though, and i have to keep loading more posts - verry annoying in a long thread. Am i missing something?

(Bumping back to newest page! Whistling)

Unfortunately the mobile version of the community does not have all the features included in the "full site" at this time.  This includes not being able to sort replies to a thread.  At the moment all replies to a thread will be loaded in order that they were created so that the first replies appear first. 

We are looking at more ways to improve the mobile experience and have more of the options available in the full site available in mobile as well.  So it is likely that this will be remedied in a future release of the mobile version of the community.

If you prefer you can also view the "full site" by clicking the "full site" link located at the bottom of the mobile page.  This will allow you to take advantage of more of the features.  

hmmm  - if it can't be sorted on the user side, can it be reversed on the server side? Most recent post first rather than first post? It would still mean clicking the "load more posts" button if you wanted to go back in time, but would still be more useful.

The new mobile version looks better on iPod than the old one did, but if I'm looking at a thread any longer than a page or two, it takes a great deal of time to get to the newest post.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:56 AM

VanceCrozier
hmmm  - if it can't be sorted on the user side, can it be reversed on the server side? Most recent post first rather than first post? It would still mean clicking the "load more posts" button if you wanted to go back in time, but would still be more useful.

If it was an easy thing to do, then yes.  But sadly it's not.  The option to sort the replies was actually removed from this version of the platform.  I had inquired about this to our vendor when I originally started working with this version a year ago.  Was basically told that it's not supported at the moment and would be looked at.  So in order to actually get it to work in the "full site" I had to do a bunch of workarounds.  The same workarounds could probably be done on the mobile side as well, but it would take time to construct and implement.  So since this isn't a quick and easy fix, this is more likely to be a "future enhancement" type of thing with mobile.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:42 AM

bbrowniii

TIm, Craig

Any insight on that PM/Conversations issue that I've been having?

This should be fixed now bbrowniii.  I flagged all your private messages as "read" so you shouldn't have any indicators anymore of having "unread" messages.  Let me know if you need anything else.  Thanks.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 11:20 AM

Craig Kuhlow

VanceCrozier
hmmm  - if it can't be sorted on the user side, can it be reversed on the server side? Most recent post first rather than first post? It would still mean clicking the "load more posts" button if you wanted to go back in time, but would still be more useful.

If it was an easy thing to do, then yes.  But sadly it's not.  The option to sort the replies was actually removed from this version of the platform.  I had inquired about this to our vendor when I originally started working with this version a year ago.  Was basically told that it's not supported at the moment and would be looked at.  So in order to actually get it to work in the "full site" I had to do a bunch of workarounds.  The same workarounds could probably be done on the mobile side as well, but it would take time to construct and implement.  So since this isn't a quick and easy fix, this is more likely to be a "future enhancement" type of thing with mobile.

Gotcha - thanks Craig. (Is your head still spinning from all the requests!?!?!?)

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 11:23 AM

VanceCrozier
Gotcha - thanks Craig. (Is your head still spinning from all the requests!?!?!?)

Haha.  There's a lot of duct tape on it to keep it in place. 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 6:32 PM

Craig Kuhlow

Are you referring to the "85" unread messages and wanting to clear that out?  I should be able to do that for you.  Let me know.  Thanks.

Craig

Sorry I missed this reply.

Yes, that is what I was referring to. I see that you seem to have sorted it out. Thank you very much!

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, July 3, 2012 6:37 PM

Hey Craig and Tim

One other thing (as if you guys don't have enough on your plate already, eh?)

When you reply to a post, regardless of where the post is on the thread, you are returned to the last page and your latest reply. So, for example, if I am on page 4 of a 12 page thread, and reply to a post in the middle of the page, I'll wind up on the last page and have to navigate my way back (which is often easier said than done since it is often easy to lose track of what page you are on). In the previous version of the forum, when you posted a reply, you were returned to the message you were responding to.

Any chance to make that happen again, or is it one big PITA to get it done?

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 6:02 AM

Craig and Tim

I have a list of my blogs over the years and refer to them on my web site. Well it seems like items from 2010 or older I cannot link to them. If I click the link I had I end up on the forum main page.

Here is an example of a link not working

cs.finescale.com/.../1139118.aspx

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:53 PM

I've been here a while. Seen all the changes since 2003 and learned to live with them. I've come and gone over the years and never said anything but hello when I came back. Three years ago I told myself that I wasn't going to let anyone get to me again, that I was sticking around no matter what. Well, you've done something that even MikeV couldn't do. You should give that some thought because you can't even get rid of him.

This looks like a kiddie site now. It's friggin rediculous. Your Reply box can't even keep up with my typing. Navigate to the end of a many page thread? Two pages at a time? lol That should bring group builds to a screeching halt. There's some very talented people here and it's a shame that they have to jump through your hoops.

I'll check back in a couple years and see what the next update brings. But for now it's time to hang up the bones...

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, July 5, 2012 8:34 AM

bbrowniii

When you reply to a post, regardless of where the post is on the thread, you are returned to the last page and your latest reply. So, for example, if I am on page 4 of a 12 page thread, and reply to a post in the middle of the page, I'll wind up on the last page and have to navigate my way back (which is often easier said than done since it is often easy to lose track of what page you are on). In the previous version of the forum, when you posted a reply, you were returned to the message you were responding to.

Any chance to make that happen again, or is it one big PITA to get it done?

That's expected behavior within the community.  When you post a reply to a thread your reply is always added to the end of the thread since it's the latest one. So the default behavior when you post is to redirect you to the post you just made so that you can see it, so if you hit the reply button on page 4 of a 12 page thread, your response will appear on the 12th page and that is where you are directed to.

I might be able to change that behavior so that it takes you back to the post you responded to, however there is a drawback with that approach.  Since your reply is always added to the end of a thread, if I direct you back to the post you hit the reply button on, you won't see the post you just made since that is now on the last page.  For example, if you hit the reply button again on page 4 of a 12 page thread and then post your response, I could take you back to page 4 again, however your response still appears on page 12.  You'd have to manually go to the last page to actually see your post.

So there's pros and cons to both approaches.  I see what you are saying tho about the longer threads.  I don't think our vendor took that into consideration when they built the platform.

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, July 5, 2012 8:42 AM

redleg12

Craig and Tim

I have a list of my blogs over the years and refer to them on my web site. Well it seems like items from 2010 or older I cannot link to them. If I click the link I had I end up on the forum main page.

Here is an example of a link not working

cs.finescale.com/.../1139118.aspx

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That particular type of link is no longer supported by our vendor.  The only reason being because the post being referenced is technically a thread and not a post, so it's handled a little bit differently.  My suggestion would be to update your link just slightly.  The first number is the important one.  The 114226.  The second number is what is throwing things off since that no longer exists.  If you remove the second number and replace the /p with a /t, it should work.

So instead of:
http://cs.finescale.com/fsmcs/forums/p/114226/1139118.aspx

Use this:
http://cs.finescale.com/fsmcs/forums/t/114226.aspx

A majority of the older links should still work.  There is a weird one though since it's a post link being used as a thread.

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Thursday, July 5, 2012 8:56 AM

Wingman_kz

I've been here a while. Seen all the changes since 2003 and learned to live with them. I've come and gone over the years and never said anything but hello when I came back. Three years ago I told myself that I wasn't going to let anyone get to me again, that I was sticking around no matter what. Well, you've done something that even MikeV couldn't do. You should give that some thought because you can't even get rid of him.

This looks like a kiddie site now. It's friggin rediculous. Your Reply box can't even keep up with my typing. Navigate to the end of a many page thread? Two pages at a time? lol That should bring group builds to a screeching halt. There's some very talented people here and it's a shame that they have to jump through your hoops.

I'll check back in a couple years and see what the next update brings. But for now it's time to hang up the bones...

Tony

Tony,

I'm sorry to her you are leaving the Forum. I'm not sure about the issue with he reply box. It is working fine for me. If you want to reach the end of a long thread, use the button with the >> on it at the end of the page navigation. It will take you straight to the last page of the thread.

Hope that helps.

Cheers, Aaron

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Posted by kaiyudsai on Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:12 AM

Yes... Im thinking of leaving too.... Im so sick of pop ups trying to sell me a subscription EVERY time I open the site.... Obviously I have a subscription already since  I have access to the member site.... and I still get these pop ups..... not to mention there is still content that requires even more purchases to read....   Ya'll spend all the effort on making the site look nice.. but very little on the content,,, the articles that I thought would be a reference for model building techniques are so  brief and generalized that I feel like they are written for a child ... not and advanced modeler.....   It will def me my last subscription to this site and the magazine  

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:16 AM

kaiyudsai

Ya'll spend all the effort on making the site look nice.. but very little on the content,,, the articles that I thought would be a reference for model building techniques are so  brief and generalized that I feel like they are written for a child ... not and advanced modeler.....   It will def me my last subscription to this site and the magazine  

Kaiyudsai,

What changes would you like to see? What techniques are you wanting to know more about? We are always looking at ways to improve the magazine and the site.

Cheers, Aaron

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:53 AM

Craig Kuhlow
That's expected behavior within the community.  When you post a reply to a thread your reply is always added to the end of the thread since it's the latest one. So the default behavior when you post is to redirect you to the post you just made so that you can see it, so if you hit the reply button on page 4 of a 12 page thread, your response will appear on the 12th page and that is where you are directed to.

Craig

I don't want to change where my post winds up (it belongs at the end of the thread since it is newest). I want to change where I end up. So, for example, if I am reading through a thread that is 12 pages long and reply to a post somewhere in the middle pages, I'd expect my post to be at the end of page 12, but when I hit the "reply" button I'd like to be redirected to the post I replied to. That is how it worked on the old forum and it made it a lot simpler. As it is now, if I don't happen to pay attention to what page I was on, I'll have to go hunting through the thread to try to figure out where I had left off.

You have basically described what I hope for in the second paragraph of your reply. I guess I don't see the cons of it since if you are reading through a long thread, you'd likely want to continue reading following any reply you posted. I don't really need to see my post, since I know what I said...Wink

I worry that I am talking myself into circles. Have I made any sense? Stick out tongue (Do I ever make any sense...)

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Craig Kuhlow on Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:22 AM

bbrowniii

You have basically described what I hope for in the second paragraph of your reply. I guess I don't see the cons of it since if you are reading through a long thread, you'd likely want to continue reading following any reply you posted. I don't really need to see my post, since I know what I said...Wink

I worry that I am talking myself into circles. Have I made any sense? Stick out tongue (Do I ever make any sense...)

No, makes sense.  I'll see what I can do.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:27 PM

Craig

Once again, I thank you for your effort.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, July 6, 2012 5:59 AM

Craig Kuhlow

redleg12

Craig and Tim

I have a list of my blogs over the years and refer to them on my web site. Well it seems like items from 2010 or older I cannot link to them. If I click the link I had I end up on the forum main page.

Here is an example of a link not working

cs.finescale.com/.../1139118.aspx

Rounds Complete!!

That particular type of link is no longer supported by our vendor.  The only reason being because the post being referenced is technically a thread and not a post, so it's handled a little bit differently.  My suggestion would be to update your link just slightly.  The first number is the important one.  The 114226.  The second number is what is throwing things off since that no longer exists.  If you remove the second number and replace the /p with a /t, it should work.

So instead of:
http://cs.finescale.com/fsmcs/forums/p/114226/1139118.aspx

Use this:
http://cs.finescale.com/fsmcs/forums/t/114226.aspx

A majority of the older links should still work.  There is a weird one though since it's a post link being used as a thread.

Craig - Thanks for the help. As most who know me here....I embody the "weird one" so it makes sense I have this type of problem

Thanks again

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Luft Modeler on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:16 AM

I will have to say my two BIGGEST complaints is:

(and sorry to beat this poor horse on this one:)

1: no page numbers in mobile version....

which then leads to problem:

2: when I select full site version, I'd like it to stay that way as not having page numbers bugs the crap outta me. But then it will at random put me back at mobile version again. Di not delete any cookies or what not so I figure if other websites save the feature I select of not have the mobile version up then there must be a glitch or typo in the code for checking for this in user settings??

Other than that I like the update!!

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