Aircraft Trivia Quiz

More clues:

Their models are primarily aircraft, little own molds but lot of reissues of Heller and Artiplast.

osher wrote:

That's it!  The Tiafun and the Typhoon.  Over to you Borg R3-MC0!

 OK, a model related question: I am looking for a model company that not only makes models but also plastic toys, foils for food packaging and bags. This company was founded in 1952 (altough I do not know if they started making models in that year)

mmmhhh, I think that not many German aircraft had an offical name.

I am thinking the Messerschmitt Bf 108 and the Hawker Typhoon.

Probably not in the ballpark but will take a shot anyway.

How about the O-52 Owl and the He-219 Uhu?

osher wrote:

Bilek have also re-issued the Do-17 (I remember building this) and the H-P Hampden.  However, I'm quite a dolt - it's the Fairey Battle - I remember reading about this somewhere.

Bilek have also re-issued the Do-17 (I remember building this) and the H-P Hampden.  However, I'm quite a dolt - it's the Fairey Battle - I remember reading about this somewhere.

If it's not a jet, you can disregard my previous cryptic post, though I believe this particular kit would also fulfil most of your other criteria.  

Chicken noises - "buk buk buk" (sound it out)

congo79 wrote:

The kit you`re asking for /the first question/ is Frog`s 1/72 Jaguar.

No, that is not the right anwser.

All known the clues:

- airfix kit

- british subject

- wrong/protype drawings

- reissued by Bilek

 New clue:

- it is not a jet! (so no Harrier or Jaguar)

Chicken noises?

Ok, here is another one:

This kit has been reissued bij Bilek in recent years but originally is from the 1960's.

Borg R3-MC0 wrote:

BUMP  Need more hints?

Like walking around the deck of a pirate ship making chicken noises?

BUMP

 Need more hints?

osher wrote:

The Airfix Harrier?

F-8fanatic wrote:

I must mention, you asked for the first aircraft that was fitted with an ejection seat as standard.  The Komet wasnt the first, nor was the 219.....if that was what you were asking, the real answer is the prototype Heinkel 280, which was completed in 1940.  At that time, the -163 wasnt even built in prototype form, the first prototypes came the following year.  My answer was given because the 219 was the first operational aircraft to have a standard seat fitted in production models.  Also, the He-219's first flight came 8 months before that of the Komet.

Thank you for the clarification, F-8, I apologise if my wording inadvertantly threw you off. What I said was:

 "What was the first plane that actually had  a standard fitted a powered ejection seat, and why? Hint-not a prop job, and an E.T.O. WWII plane at that!"

I was puzzled that you overlooked my "not a prop job" hint in my question in the first place, now I know why.

I guess what I should have said was:

" What was the first non-prop driven plane that actually had  a standard fitted a powered ejection seat, and why? And an E.T.O. WWII plane at that!" But the fact remains that my hint was part of the question as a qualifier, which Borg caught.

Also my second hint "not an air-breather" should have made this a no brainer between the Beecham Natter and the Me-163, since this leaves you with rocket-powered only, as both piston engines and turbine jet engines are "air breathers" as well.

Besides this, the fact remains that even after omitting this single question, Borg got two out of three which put him ahead of you in either case. That was why I posited more then one question, knowing that there could be more then one answer to the more technical ones, as well as putting the hint in the question, but in fact the key question was regarding the bombing incident. Feel free to PM me if this does not make sense.

Interesting that you posited the P-61 as a success, according to the book "Against the Allied Bombers", in an interview with a Luftwaffe officer POW, the P-61 in the ETO was a victum of it's own advanced design. Once they were aware of its presence, they literally gave up intercepting Allied bombers at night. This was partly due to an incident where a Ju-88 night fighter was literally blown out of the air before they knew what hit them by a P-61, resutling in the crew's having to be given mental health leave! After that they were mainly used for interdicting/bombing missions (I don't know this but the P-61 could carry a four 1,000 lb bomb load), having the bulk of their night interception in the PAC, where the Japanese were not as organized as the Germans.

Tom T

No responses on the questions, so here is a hint: the anwser is british..

T_Terrific wrote:

F-8fanatic wrote: well, the ejection seat was actually being developed by both Sweden and Germany at the same time.  Sweden used it on the Saab J-21 while Germany put one in the He-219 night fighter.  Both were apparently done for the same reason, albeit the configurations of the two planes were different.  The He-219 had twin engines, and the props were directly beside the cockpit, which made the prospect of bailing out a dangerous idea.  The Saab 21 was even worse, because it had a pusher propeller, directly behind the cockpit, so a pilot bailing out stood a good chance of becoming sliced into pieces.  In both cases the seat was designed to propel the pilot clear of this danger.  The references I have found have stated that the Saab 21 was the first to have it as standard equipment, but the Heinkel design was actually used first.   For the night fighter, I am going to say the P-61 Black Widow.  Most successful allied fighter in terms of night kills, and the primary target was Japanese night intruders.  The Japanese were not very good at night fighting in the air, and their night flying was mainly restricted to two activities--night bombing raids and "washing machine charlie" flights that were flown to harass the Allied pilots into going without sleep.  Their tactics were such that they routinely flew several sorties at the same area, one plane at a time.  And the planes would typically fly along straight and level.  So, a P-61 crew could be vectored in to intercept a Japanese plane, shoot it down, then hang around and wait for the next one to come along into the area.  Even with the need for the P-61 crew to visually ID the target before shooting, they were often able to sneak up on a Betty bomber or other Japanese plane without ever being spotted.  The Japanese didnt use radar, so their night flying crews had to navigate the same way that pilots did during the day--a map, compass, and watch.  Because of this, they were more likely to plod along straight and on course. Close: Further hints: Clue#1 Well, actually the ejection seat was used in a non-prop job developed by the Germans before the Heinkel 219. As it turns out, this aircraft actually set a new speed record as well, but since it was developed under secret, they could not "brag" on it. Oddly enough, this drove the Birtish (who found out about it) to reclaim that distinction shortly after the war. This non-prop job in fact was not an air-breather, either, and could handle itself as a glider as well as powered flight, which was necessitated by it's limited fuel supply.  Clue#2 Oddly enough, this night fighter was termed the "most successful" because of the actual number of kills it was responsible for. As a day fighter/"Zerstorer", it was a failure, one example was even shot down by a four-engined Allied bomber that could out-turn it! As a further clue, it's normal targets actually made themselves easy to locate by the free use of all sorts of night-flying radio gear that they relied on in their night-bombing campaigns. Clue#3 The plane that bombed itself out of the air was not one you would normally think of as a bomber. It was small a twin-engined job with a fabric covered fuselage and a single gun turret aft of the cockpit. It's intended target was a sea-going vessel. Feel free to try again. Tom T

I must mention, you asked for the first aircraft that was fitted with an ejection seat as standard.  The Komet wasnt the first, nor was the 219.....if that was what you were asking, the real answer is the prototype Heinkel 280, which was completed in 1940.  At that time, the -163 wasnt even built in prototype form, the first prototypes came the following year.  My answer was given because the 219 was the first operational aircraft to have a standard seat fitted in production models.  Also, the He-219's first flight came 8 months before that of the Komet. 

Okay, here is a model question;

 I am looking for a model kit which was made using the plans supplied by the manufacturer of the real aircraft. These where faithfully used but turned out to be plans of the prototype. Therefore the resulting model was inaccurate for the production type it represented in all its boxings.

Name kit and manufacturer....

Borg R3-MC0 wrote:

I read the clue's so I want to do some guesses: 1: the messerschmit Me-163 2: the messerschmit BF-110 3: the Avro Anson

!!!!!!!!!Hail Borg!!!!!!!!!!!!

Borg is King!

I almost thought I would have to throw in a substitute question on aircraft equipment, but now I can save that one for the future.

I woulda thought a UK'er woulda pick up on these in no time.

Especially the Anson-It swooped down to bomb what they thought to be an enemy submarine, and they came in so low, the bomb's fuse didn't have time to set when it hit the water, so it skipped back up and struck the plane, detonating on impact.

As it turned out the Submarine was actually British also, so the surviving Anson crew "lucked out" on that one.

Kinda makes you wonder what they had to eat (or drink ) before pulling off a stunt like that.

Now give us a nice one Borg, one we on this side of the pond might be able to handle as well. And if you can make it a modelling subject, so much the better!

Tom T

I read the clue's so I want to do some guesses:

1: the messerschmit Me-163

2: the messerschmit BF-110

3: the Avro Anson

F-8fanatic wrote:

well, the ejection seat was actually being developed by both Sweden and Germany at the same time.  Sweden used it on the Saab J-21 while Germany put one in the He-219 night fighter.  Both were apparently done for the same reason, albeit the configurations of the two planes were different.  The He-219 had twin engines, and the props were directly beside the cockpit, which made the prospect of bailing out a dangerous idea.  The Saab 21 was even worse, because it had a pusher propeller, directly behind the cockpit, so a pilot bailing out stood a good chance of becoming sliced into pieces.  In both cases the seat was designed to propel the pilot clear of this danger.  The references I have found have stated that the Saab 21 was the first to have it as standard equipment, but the Heinkel design was actually used first.   For the night fighter, I am going to say the P-61 Black Widow.  Most successful allied fighter in terms of night kills, and the primary target was Japanese night intruders.  The Japanese were not very good at night fighting in the air, and their night flying was mainly restricted to two activities--night bombing raids and "washing machine charlie" flights that were flown to harass the Allied pilots into going without sleep.  Their tactics were such that they routinely flew several sorties at the same area, one plane at a time.  And the planes would typically fly along straight and level.  So, a P-61 crew could be vectored in to intercept a Japanese plane, shoot it down, then hang around and wait for the next one to come along into the area.  Even with the need for the P-61 crew to visually ID the target before shooting, they were often able to sneak up on a Betty bomber or other Japanese plane without ever being spotted.  The Japanese didnt use radar, so their night flying crews had to navigate the same way that pilots did during the day--a map, compass, and watch.  Because of this, they were more likely to plod along straight and on course.

Close:

Further hints:

Clue#1

Well, actually the ejection seat was used in a non-prop job developed by the Germans before the Heinkel 219. As it turns out, this aircraft actually set a new speed record as well, but since it was developed under secret, they could not "brag" on it. Oddly enough, this drove the Birtish (who found out about it) to reclaim that distinction shortly after the war. This non-prop job in fact was not an air-breather, either, and could handle itself as a glider as well as powered flight, which was necessitated by it's limited fuel supply. 

Clue#2

Oddly enough, this night fighter was termed the "most successful" because of the actual number of kills it was responsible for. As a day fighter/"Zerstorer", it was a failure, one example was even shot down by a four-engined Allied bomber that could out-turn it!

As a further clue, it's normal targets actually made themselves easy to locate by the free use of all sorts of night-flying radio gear that they relied on in their night-bombing campaigns.

Clue#3

The plane that bombed itself out of the air was not one you would normally think of as a bomber. It was small a twin-engined job with a fabric covered fuselage and a single gun turret aft of the cockpit. It's intended target was a sea-going vessel.

Feel free to try again.

Tom T

well, the ejection seat was actually being developed by both Sweden and Germany at the same time.  Sweden used it on the Saab J-21 while Germany put one in the He-219 night fighter.  Both were apparently done for the same reason, albeit the configurations of the two planes were different.  The He-219 had twin engines, and the props were directly beside the cockpit, which made the prospect of bailing out a dangerous idea.  The Saab 21 was even worse, because it had a pusher propeller, directly behind the cockpit, so a pilot bailing out stood a good chance of becoming sliced into pieces.  In both cases the seat was designed to propel the pilot clear of this danger.  The references I have found have stated that the Saab 21 was the first to have it as standard equipment, but the Heinkel design was actually used first.

For the night fighter, I am going to say the P-61 Black Widow.  Most successful allied fighter in terms of night kills, and the primary target was Japanese night intruders.  The Japanese were not very good at night fighting in the air, and their night flying was mainly restricted to two activities--night bombing raids and "washing machine charlie" flights that were flown to harass the Allied pilots into going without sleep.  Their tactics were such that they routinely flew several sorties at the same area, one plane at a time.  And the planes would typically fly along straight and level.  So, a P-61 crew could be vectored in to intercept a Japanese plane, shoot it down, then hang around and wait for the next one to come along into the area.  Even with the need for the P-61 crew to visually ID the target before shooting, they were often able to sneak up on a Betty bomber or other Japanese plane without ever being spotted.  The Japanese didnt use radar, so their night flying crews had to navigate the same way that pilots did during the day--a map, compass, and watch.  Because of this, they were more likely to plod along straight and on course.

Borg R3-MC0 wrote:

Yep, the Napier-Heston Racer (powered by the napier sabre) is the correct anwser.   Tom, the floor is yours.

O-M-G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The ceiling, oooooooooops, I mean "floor" is truuuuuuuuuuuuuly mine-oooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Woooooooooooo-eeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

Yep, the Napier-Heston Racer (powered by the napier sabre) is the correct anwser.

Tom, the floor is yours.

Wouldn't be the Napier-Heston Racer, would it?

Tom T