Aussie Modellers

to the Aussie Modellers thread, Dave, Darrin and Stephen it good to have you join us.

Darren: I see that you were asking about compressors in another thread, I fully agree with you proposal to chase one of the home workshop types, it a better invesment that a hobby type. If you haven't purchase one yet check out Kmart or bunnings hardware, they usually have them for around $100, dónt forget to get a moisture trap also. I have used Aztec airbrushes now for quite a few years and am quite happy with them, but airbrushes are like any other tool you need to find one that suits you and develop the technique to use it to your satifaction.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1 Ok, I admit I have been slack in not checking out this thread of late (insert severe, tongue lashing here!). But the number of Aussie modelers really has hit a high point from where I'm sitting I'll get round to making a head count one of these days, gotta be close to a total takeover!!!!!

Like you Tweety, I've been slack but its been the whole forum just not the Aussie modellers thread

As for the head count I gave up a long time ago - we just keep growing in numbers.

QUOTE: Originally posted by outback Quick question to all, how many current and / or ex Servicemen here. I'm ex Army and got into building models as part of a lifetime interest in all things military. Cheers Shane

Shane. In the 1960's I served with the Army Cadets whilst at school and then with the CMF (ARES) as a Tpt Driver in the RAASC before seeing the light and enlisting in the RAAF in 1969. I served with the RAAF in until 2002 when I reached retirement age.

Where do's everyone get there cool signatures, and how do you put it on your profile

Sushi

What would you use for aerial lines in 1/32 scale,and how would you attach it to the plane.

Thanks Sushi

QUOTE: Shane. In the 1960's I served with the Army Cadets whilst at school and then with the CMF (ARES) as a Tpt Driver in the RAASC before seeing the light and enlisting in the RAAF in 1969. I served with the RAAF in until 2002 when I reached retirement age.

[bold]RAASC!!!![/bold] Your tag line makes more sense now .

Cheers

QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi What would you use for aerial lines in 1/32 scale,and how would you attach it to the plane.

Red Roo have this great stretchy stuff called EZline, the premium arial gear as far as I can tell. Comes in several colours & a reel is a bit pricey but will last.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bandha Boy QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi What would you use for aerial lines in 1/32 scale,and how would you attach it to the plane. Red Roo have this great stretchy stuff called EZline, the premium arial gear as far as I can tell. Comes in several colours & a reel is a bit pricey but will last.

Karl Thats the stuff i use

Hi guys,

I'm looking at buying my first airbrush, I'm looking at fronline hobbies atm, I want something at around the $150-$180 range for the airbrush and $100-$120 for a cheap compessor.

I see the Aztec 470 AZT-4704G model is $150
or theres the
Paasche H or
Paasche VL

or maybe I could pick one up from ebay or even an overseas store?

Can you get a cheap compressor from Kmart for these?
Let me know what you guys think

Try Bear Air for airbrushes. Shipping is not the cheapest but it works out to be very competitive with local suppliers & you can include some extras that aren't available here. I've always found them excellent to deal with. Excellent range incl. Badger, Iwata, Aztec, etc & their own Peak brand. http://www.bearair.com

On the shipping topic, I recently got a shipment of resin & decals from Meteor & the good thing about them was that they shipped US Post, so it was only $8.50 shipping rather than $40 or $50. Still took only about a week to reach me.

Where can I get the Iwata Eclipse here in Perth?
And how much does it retail for?

I heard it's the bee's knee's of Airbrushes.

Cheers
Nenad

Oz Distributers:
http://www.anest-iwata.com.au/default.htm
They're helpful but expensive.

Here are the links to a couple of the better web suppliers who will ship direct:
Bear Air:
http://www.bearair.com/products.asp?dept=1091&pagenumber=3&sort_on=&sort_by=

Dixie Art
http://www.dixieart.com/Dixie_Art_Supplies_Airbrush_Main_Page.html

The Peak is made by the same place that makes Iwata & is apparently a terrific airbrush. Concerns would be that parts can only be obtained from Bear Air, no local distributers.

Bandha boy ( Carl)
Just had to say love the girrafe pop up always makes me laugh ,well done

Sushi

QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi Where do's everyone get there cool signatures, and how do you put it on your profile Sushi

sushi The sigs in my profile represent the group builds that i have been in or am still in
If you join the 2005 Aussie Gb then you get the badge in your sig
Oh by the way The wavy aussie flag is a free for all for any aussie on this site......
To put it into your sig you need to go into your profile and copy the URL into your Signature......Note for graphics it has to go in to the text and graphics Sig......
This is the URL for the Aussie flag........


The [ img ] before the url and the [/ img ] after the url have no spaces in between the brackets, iv'e added the spaces so you can see it, if i close the spaces you get this.....

Nenad

Give Jackson's in Perth a call

cheers

Mike

ROOSTA, I don't want to enter the great which ab is better debate, but as a former Aztek owner I wouldn't get one again. These airbrushes are nowhere nearly as bad as some people make out, but IMHO you would do better going for something like a Badger, Paasche, Iwata, Olympus, Tamiya (rebadged IWATA), etc, etc...

BigKahuna, I bought my Iwata from Dixieart in the US. The price (even including the shipping) was significantly cheaper than anything I could get here in Aus. I think from memory I paid all up, around $250 for mine with some extra bits thrown in. This was about $100 cheaper than I could find the same ab here.

Bandha, I had a happy shipping experience as well the other day. I bought the AMTech Folke Wulf Ta-183 from Squadron for $39 Aus (including shipping) and it arrived on my door only four days after I ordered it

Sushi, when adding images to your sig don't forget to look at the guidelines for sigs which appear as a sticky in a few of the forums.

Cheers
Darren

Some progress pics on the Mirage. Just painted the camo on the weekend. Apologies for the crappy pic quality. This is SAAF scheme. The Eduard guide has sand + earth but every reference pic I could find had sand + green. This is just painted, no weathering or clear coats yet.

Masked up with Play Doh. Not a good idea in retrospect as the SAAF camo is too busy for this technique. I was tempted to leave it like this as a work of art.



The proboscus is quite a detailed shape & I got sick of the kit part breaking off so I put some brass rod in a Dremel & turned one out. Quite pleased with myself on that one. (I don't like adding them later as smoothing the joint stuffs up the paint job.)

Thanks Carl

Sushi

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi Where do's everyone get there cool signatures, and how do you put it on your profile Sushi sushi The sigs in my profile represent the group builds that i have been in or am still in If you join the 2005 Aussie Gb then you get the badge in your sig Oh by the way The wavy aussie flag is a free for all for any aussie on this site...... To put it into your sig you need to go into your profile and copy the URL into your Signature......Note for graphics it has to go in to the text and graphics Sig...... This is the URL for the Aussie flag........ The [ img ] before the url and the [/ img ] after the url have no spaces in between the brackets, iv'e added the spaces so you can see it, if i close the spaces you get this.....

I've decided to go for a Badger 100LG Medium instead, now i've just got to decide where to buy it from
Bear Air or Dixieart.

Darson how much shipping did you pay from dixieart, and did they ask to confirm your order inc shipping?

I already know bearair does that so I'm trying to figure out which one will be cheaper to ship to me in tassie.

Also is there anything else I should get with it?

That's the brush I got. Are you going for the medium tip? I got mine form Bear Air & shipping was ~$40 although I did get a bunch of other goodies included in the package (hoses, quick-release attachments, paints, cleaning brushes, etc).

Can anyone give me any helpfull advise on weathering technics. I've bought some pastel chalks for the project, do I need anything else ? Will the chalks do the panel lines or is a wash better ? If you use both technics which is first ,the chalks or the wash?

P.S Finially bought the new Hasegawa Frank 1/32 yesterday , can't wait to start it must buy that airbrush
Thanks Sushi

Hi Roosta, I can't remember exactly how much I paid from DixieArt, but I can check when I get home tonight. They did ask me to confirm the order (inc shipping) via email, which was a feature, I really liked. Overall they were great to deal with and I would buy from them again anytime. The only slight negative was that they don't exactly move with the speed of a thousand startled gazelles when responding to emails.

Sushi, rule No1 when using pastels is to make sure you have chalk pastels, not the oil type. Oil pastels don't work all that well on a model (don't ask how I know this ).
For me I use the combination of techniques to weather my models.
1. Paint, using various shades of base of the base color and post shading the panel lines to give a worn or used look.
2. A gloss clear acrylic topcoat, Tamiya Clear, Pledge One Go or Future.
3. Decals
4. A second gloss clear acrylic top coat over the decals
5. Oil wash using artists oils thinned with white spirit (turpenoid to the yanks) in the panel lines
6. A clear flat topcoat, Pollyscale clear flat is my weapon of choice here.
7. Pastel chalks for panel coloring and staining, exhaust stains and gun stains.
8. Final flat coat.
There wasn't that easy

Cheers
Darren

Check out the following articles:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2001/01/stuff_eng_tech_panel_lines.htm
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2003/02/stuff_eng_tech_detergent_wash.htm
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/05/stuff_eng_tech_pastels.htm
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TNT043_oil-wash_Johnson/tnt043.htm
http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=29

Bandha I forgot to mention, you are a braver man than I am. If I used my daughters Play Doh for masking they would have my guts for garters.

Darren

QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi Can anyone give me any helpfull advise on weathering technics. I've bought some pastel chalks for the project, do I need anything else ? Will the chalks do the panel lines or is a wash better ? If you use both technics which is first ,the chalks or the wash?

Try these guides, they're an excellent starting point:
http://www.testors.com/hobbyist_guides.asp

You'll also find tons of reference tips on Hyperscale http://www.hyperscale.com/

I know everyone is pretty busy with Group Builds, but I had an idea the other day: a RAAF 'what-if' GB. So, you can build an a/c that the RAAF never used (from WWII [P-47, P-38, B-17, etc.], till today [F-14, F-15, F-16, F-18F, etc.), do it up in Aussie colours and stick some RAAF decals on it. Fictional squadron's could be made like this. I don't yet know what the start/finish dates would be.
Anyone interested? Tell me, then if I get enough, I'll stick it up in the GB forum.
Cheers,
John

Someone (Ventura?) even made RAAF what-of decals for some recent aircraft they were thinking of buying (I think it was the Eurofighter or something like that). Interesting idea - so much to do & so little time.

Hi Darson( Darren)
I ,ve bought Model Master lacquer overcoat in gloss and in flat ,will these be suitable for the decals or is Pledge better

Sushi

John, I like your idea about aircraft that the RAAF never used... I actually did an F-22 in Aussie colors once, and gave it away as a present..

Chris in Japan

I think Gekko did the RAAF 'what ifs'

RAAF were to get the TSR-2 in preference to the F-111. With the new Airfix kit coming out, lots of "what -if's" there.

I have 2" what if's" planned and 1 conjectural build planned

1. RAAF F/A-22A Raptor planned (1:48 Italeri kit)
2. RAAF F/A-35A planned (1:48 Panda kit)
3. RAAF F/A-20A Tigersnake (1:72 Hasegawa kit) for the ARC F-5 Group Build

Gekko have a number of Rafale RAAF "What if's" available

cheers

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by johnforster I know everyone is pretty busy with Group Builds, but I had an idea the other day: a RAAF 'what-if' GB. So, you can build an a/c that the RAAF never used (from WWII [P-47, P-38, B-17, etc.], till today [F-14, F-15, F-16, F-18F, etc.), do it up in Aussie colours and stick some RAAF decals on it. Fictional squadron's could be made like this. I don't yet know what the start/finish dates would be. Anyone interested? Tell me, then if I get enough, I'll stick it up in the GB forum. Cheers, John

John

I am keen, as long as I can use the same RAAF F/A-20A Tigersnake build I am doing for the ARC F-5 GB, I have not even started it as yet. This means I can keep my commits down to a manageable level.

Would that be suitable?

I have all ready built a QANTAS Rotodyne

cheers

Mike