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Posted by rotorwash on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:22 AM

OK guys, here's you some eye candy!

B-E:

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Refueling at MAG-16, March 23 1969, VMO-2 Marble Mtn, Da Nang:

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MAG-16Oct 10 1968, VMO-2/HML-167 Marble Mtn:

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Another B-E (actually UH-1E no. 2):

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May 8 1971 MCAS Yuma. Serial 157189.  this is actually a HH-1K but it has Marines on the side.  I wish this was in color cause I'm pretty sure this one was gray:

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Well, that's a good start anyhow.  As a note, these pics are from the R.L. Lawson collection and many were taken by him.  they are now in the archives of the US Naval Aviation Museum down in Pensecola.

   Ray

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Posted by Hatter50 on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:44 AM

Ray,

B&W would be great.  Sometimes the detail on them is even sharper than color.  As for the color thats in the B&W photo.............Huey367 said it best and I wholeheartedly agree...........it's GREEN.  We know it if it's off...........but as long as it's some kind of green........."looks good to me, lets go fly!"  And for an Army guy.....as long as it's OD "let's go fly!". 

Huey367...............thank you for your work at night.  They all worked just fine.  Bow [bow]   By "boxing and unboxing" in the Philippines....you mean the TK-2s?  Those things were a political no-no for so many reasons by so many brass......until you NEED to shoot something.

In 1975 HML-367 was sitting in Oki with it's UH-1E's.  Not sure if they picked any new ones up.  They did have a distinction of being the "Parent" deployed squadron for a while with other types attached for Frequent Wind.  That rarely happens.

Steve

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Posted by rotorwash on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:25 AM

Huey367,

  Thank you, sir and Steve as well for your service.  It's guys like you two that make this hobby worthwhile to me.  The kits are just plastic, but the history is real and I try very hard to get it right (although I still have a lot to learn).  Send me a PM and I'll make sure you get all the Echo pics I have.  By the way, mind if I ask your name?  Seems kinda wierd calling you Huey367 all the time.  Would you guys be interested in black and white Echo pics as well?

    Ray

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Posted by Huey367 on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:09 AM

That is the best picture of a Huey I have seen in years. The paint is the non-reflective paint that I had mentioned earlier.

Many of the Hueys from HML 167 and HML 367 got assigned to FMF and many where put on "the beach" (parked side by side on the flight line) at Subic Bay. When we requested VT-21 (DoubleNuts renumbered VT-00) be returned, it came by ship in 6 boxes. The Navy would canablize the Hueys and later use them. In 1974 we had to send all the weapon racks (TK2) to Subic for the Navy to use. In April 1975, Marines from the States went to WestPAC for Operation Eagle Pull and Frequent Wind. We picked up the our Hueys (E Models) at Subic Bay and returned them to Subic Bay a few weeks later to a fate unknown. That was the last Huey I would see or fly in. To me the only real Huey is the E model. I would end my career supporting the helicopters of HMX-1 as NCOIC of Night Crew - very little flying.

I have something to say to you guys. Thank you. To read these posts from a group of people  who are so deeply interrested in UH-1E really makes me feel good. If you watch a show on TV about Hueys, its always the Army Ds. They may show one or two pictures of the Marines UH-1Es. If you want to tear one a part and put it back together call me, but the name of a colors - there all green to me. Thank You Gentlemen

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Posted by rotorwash on Friday, May 8, 2009 12:47 AM

Aaron,

  Good eye!  I totally missed that.

    Ray

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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, May 8, 2009 12:31 AM
 rotorwash wrote:

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Looks like Alameda NAS, you can see what appears to be the SF Bay Bridge behind the aircraft on the right side of the photo.

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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, May 7, 2009 8:28 PM
 Hatter50 wrote:

grandadjohn...............I hear your pain.............."if I only had a camera"!!!  been there, done that.

Oh.....to be back flying again........WITH a digital camera!!!!!!!!!!!  Make a Toast [#toast]

Steve

 

I hear you, think that's I miss the most

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 8:27 PM

Gonna have to upload some more Echos from the P'cola archives, but here's one I got from Wayne Mutza that shows the TAT 101 nicely.

   Ray

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:58 PM

grandadjohn...............I hear your pain.............."if I only had a camera"!!!  been there, done that.

Oh.....to be back flying again........WITH a digital camera!!!!!!!!!!!  Make a Toast [#toast]

Steve

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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:54 PM
 Hatter50 wrote:

Ray, I'm still on the turnip wagon............Clown [:o)]

Photobucket resizes on upload, at least it does to me.  So I figure your looking at a GIANT photo and we have a slightly smaller one here.

N numbers are there to "confuse" people.  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]  never know just who owns up to it.  Especially if its a removeable placard. 

Steve

 

True to some extent and I have seen the opposite. M-D had two beautiful H models in the late 80's at the Apache plant in Mesa. They were in the white and red Army markings, wish I had taken a photo

 

Ray keep posting the Huey photo's, can never have too many

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:41 PM

Yes Sir..............those made my day.  Didn't fly the first 3 as they were in a squadron "down the hall" but they got ALL the shiney ones.  HML-268 stood up, flew a few years, and then switched and became HMM-268 flying the CH-46.  Guess they did that when they combined the HMLs and HMAs into HMLAs.  Those photos were fairly fresh out of the factory.

#4 159198 from HMT-303, I flew that one in another lifetime.  Very interesting seeing that bird.  Many good miles...........

Thanks again Ray.  Do you have any more of the "E" shineyed up? 

Regards
Steve

 

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:07 PM

Steve,

  Yes, Photobucket does downsize.  I upload them at as high a res as I can, but you can't have it all I guess. Sooooo, shiny green with white stencils is your favorite paint scheme huh?  Well, these are just for you, my friend.

   Ray

 

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That should keep you happy for a whileSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg] 

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:59 PM

Ray

1965...........would appear that its got the nose pitot and can't tell about tankage.  Hasn't been to the paintshop either.   Approve [^]

Steve

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:57 PM

I know about "clicking".................Angel [angel]

but photobucket DOES downsize.

Steve

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:55 PM

OOPS.........Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]

Speaking of rabbit holes..........I bumped into this on a Japanese site.  Just an ordinary Huey......sorta.

This is a brand new UH-1N, AFCS no stab bar in 1976 with HML-367.  My "Favorite" paint scheme, shiney field green (of some shade) and white stenciling.  Has not been to SDLM to get those awful DANGER JET INTAKE decals.  Just all green and white markings.  The first loads came by C-5s straight from the Bell factory.  New Car smell in a Marine Huey....What could be finer?

The field is the former AAF Hamby, changed to MAF Hamby, just down the hill from Futenma.  I'm sure it's a driving range now.

Anyway........thats my favorite paint scheme.  Flys fast also. 

Regards
Steve

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:43 PM

OK back to the subject of this thread.  Here's a bird from VMO-6 Ky Ha Dec 1965 from Ed Alexander via Wayne Mutza. 

   Ray

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:35 PM

Nah, I was looking at the pic as it was posted.  No worries. Sorry to have steered this cool thread down a rabbit trail.  The photo was from the Navy archives so I made the rash assumption that it had something to do with the Navy!  Gimme a bit and I'll post another Echo and get things back on track.  Thanks anyway!

   Ray 

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:28 PM

Ray, I'm still on the turnip wagon............Clown [:o)]

Photobucket resizes on upload, at least it does to me.  So I figure your looking at a GIANT photo and we have a slightly smaller one here.

N numbers are there to "confuse" people.  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]  never know just who owns up to it.  Especially if its a removeable placard. 

Steve

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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:23 PM
A "N" number would make it a civilian bird
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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:22 PM

Looks like we were posting at the same time there Steve!  Try clicking on the pic, it makes em bigger!  I figured you knew that, sorry.

    Ray

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:21 PM
 Helo 53 wrote:

 I only have one nice color pic from my referrence books/magazine's

They appear to be two early 'Echo birds' the one in the background seems to have an instrument type probe mounted on top of the rotor shaft ?

                                           John

 

151266 (bird with the test gear on the rotorhead) was the first UH-1E and 151267 (foreground) was the second.  You could definitely call those "Early Echos"!  That from the Chant UH-1 Super Profile book?

   Ray

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:20 PM

Hey John,

Good find.  No's 1 and 2.  151266 and 151267.

Ray.........your cheating..........photobucket made YOUR photo smaller.  My maginfyers can hadly see the WINDOW!  SoapBox [soapbox]

Steve

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:16 PM
 Hatter50 wrote:

Don't have a clue.

I know noooooooooooooothing!

Don't see no stinking SN or N number.  So i guess we can't even talk about it. 

Steve, Steve, Steve.  Didn't your momma ever teach you to look at the doors!  Looks like N72376 to me, but I could be mistaken.  That help any?

    Ray

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Posted by Helo H-34 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:02 PM

 I only have one nice color pic from my referrence books/magazine's

They appear to be two early 'Echo birds' the one in the background seems to have an instrument type probe mounted on top of the rotor shaft ?

                                           John

 

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:56 PM

Don't have a clue.

I know noooooooooooooothing!

Don't see no stinking SN or N number.  So i guess we can't even talk about it. 

Looks like the west coast with lots of old airplanes hanging around............or they are new airplanes a long time ago.  Dunce [D)]  At a NARF??  SD or Alameda maybe.

Ray when I was driving them around, couldnt just slip a point and shoot DC into my pocket.  I'd be doing it today, thats for sure.

Steve

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:16 PM

Steve,

  Too cool!  I love seeing the "before" and "after" shots.  How many more of those pics do YOU have sitting around?  You must have flown more hours in a Huey than just about anyone I know.  OK, this one is off the subject a little, but while i have your attention, do you happen to know anything about this bird.  It looks to be a UH-1D with a little Playboy bunny on the tail.  Looks like it's at a Navy base so I figured you might have an idea.  I'll get beck to the Echos with the next post.

   Ray

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:51 PM

Hey Ray,

Found 155349 the HML-267 bird in my logbook.  I also "found" a photo of her after the Navy (HT-18 training squadron) got done with her as a teaching tool..........Sent to the desert.........having never been given the "school colors" red and white paintjob. 

Regards
Steve

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:36 PM

Very interesting.  I was kinda surprised that a mainstream squadron was still using the E at that date.  Obviously the "Shiney Period".

I was at HT-18 instructing at that time, and we got a "load" of shiney west coast Marine UH-1Es in to augment the squadron (we had 72 aircraft at that time and growing....we were flying the red and white TH-1L at the time).  The navy....bless their hearts, Blacked out the MARINES in WHITE and painted Navy in Black,  painted several panels RED.  THEN.....as maintenance was an assembly line operation, they would throw on whatever cowling was just sitting around.  RED and WHITE, Flat Green, Shiney Green, Chromate Green........it was wild.  I LOVED to take one of those on a cross country and land at Air Force bases.............as scuzzie as we looked......we got met by a many striped guy with a BIG clip board taking notes of whats missing.  Remember....it says NAVY on the side.  Whistling [:-^]  I would just Big Smile [:D]

I love it Ray, thank you!!

Steve

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Posted by rotorwash on Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:10 PM

Well OK then.  Here's another one.  HML-267 May 19 1977 at China Lake.  BuNO 155349.

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Posted by Hatter50 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:01 PM

Times a wast'n.....yes we do Ray!!!!!! Captain [4:-)]

You made some really good finds at the museum.  Please share.  Dinner [dinner]

Steve

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