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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, March 4, 2013 7:02 PM

Bockscar

Russ thanks for posting those, that's the first XB-52 I've seen built, and congrats on it being a vac kit.

Dom

You're welcome, Dom. BTW, my apololgies but I misunderstood about the vacuumform - it was a mod that includes the nose from the wingroot forward, not the whole kit.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, March 4, 2013 7:18 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Russ thanks for posting those, that's the first XB-52 I've seen built, and congrats on it being a vac kit.

Dom

You're welcome, Dom. BTW, my apololgies but I misunderstood about the vacuumform - it was a mod that includes the nose from the wingroot forward, not the whole kit.

Russ

Well, Allen did a pretty good repair job there, I can't see any evidence of damage.

i wish I had one of those vac conversion kits myself, LeMay didn't like the tandem, but i

always did like the B-47, and that original X-BUFF looks a wee bit faster.

Tx

Dom

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Posted by Buffirn on Monday, March 4, 2013 7:55 PM

I am looking forward to a BUFF GB.  Heck, I might even build the BUFFski (Tu-95) I have.

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by Buffirn on Monday, March 4, 2013 8:02 PM

Since we are playing a bit of show and tell, here is my last BUFF.

 

I have 2 more H's that I want to finish.  I have decals now for my aircraft, 61-0025 with the noseart my crew came up with.  I have been possibly inspired  by the fine work here to put it on Alert.  That display base will take up some serious space.

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by wynder on Monday, March 4, 2013 9:24 PM

Sorry to hijack your thread Russ.

Allen, is that the old OK Models XB-52 conversion? I tried to find them for over TWENTY years.

I finally found Lone Star Models resin XB/YB conversion and jumped on two of them.

Hmm... Group build, XB-52... WAY tempting.

Excellent models. I thought I had a lot of BUFF's. I think I have around 18 of them in various types.

-Beau

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Posted by buffjock on Monday, March 4, 2013 10:18 PM

Beau,

Yes it is. Ive had it for at least that long. Ya had to glue it together and cut off the nose of Monogram "D". Ive got nothing but pain and suffering in that as it sits,built it in the early 80s, rebuilt it last fall, but the longer it took the more madder I got.... Oh and i STILL got extra decals left on stock.

BTW Thanks to all who think these old heaps are worth lookin at.... Any questions will be entertained to my best abilities, Just  remember to keep expectations low...

I find it quite ironic (?) that the day I get asked to join a B-52 build, a Tupelev Tu-95 Bear H arrives on my doorstep....

NFN

Allen

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Posted by buffjock on Monday, March 4, 2013 10:27 PM

Jim,

Hi and thanks for the words on my old heaps.....

I was asked to join the B-52 GB today and 15 minutes later the UPS dude was on the porch with a Tupelev Tu-95. i see a lot of late nights (and prop painting...) in me future.

just wonderin, when are the reds gonna put some Rolls Royce RB-211s on that thing? Or, I could send them some extra podded J-57s...

Email me at   rkline AT roadrunner DOTCOM

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Posted by buffjock on Monday, March 4, 2013 10:33 PM

Beau,

I would LOVE to get me grubby little paws on one of the Lone Star sets, remember, i still have to build the YB-52!!  The OK Models set is near impossible to find nowadays.

Inventoried today,  1/72 scale  22 built , 4 under construction, 9 in the stash and 4 in what I call "DLM"

Total  39

1/144th  3 built

Total 3

Plus a Bear

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Posted by wynder on Monday, March 4, 2013 11:03 PM

Allen,

Simple to buy: lonestarmodels.com, LSM 70354 XB/YB-52 Conversion, $30.00.

Same deal, cut the nose off and install the tandem cockpit resin parts. VERY good quality.

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Posted by wynder on Monday, March 4, 2013 11:05 PM

... And what is DLM??

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Posted by buffjock on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:13 AM

DLM stands for "Depot Level Maintainence" They used to send em to Tinker AFB for the procedure. Its basically  an overall freshening of the airplane.

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:31 AM

Hey guys:

We are just finishing the badge for the BUFF GB.

It should be ready tomorrow afternoon. I'll see if I can get the GB thread up

this afternoon, it might help divert general traffic a bit from Russ's thread.

Interesting, we weren't even thinking about BEARs, I got one just before Christmas,

we were thinking more along the lines of a KC for associated aircraft, and a BEAR shouldn't be a problem, but we do hope guys will put in a BUFF.Whistling

Thanks, and

See you all on the GB guys,

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:11 AM

Buffirn

Since we are playing a bit of show and tell, here is my last BUFF.

 

I have 2 more H's that I want to finish.  I have decals now for my aircraft, 61-0025 with the noseart my crew came up with.  I have been possibly inspired  by the fine work here to put it on Alert.  That display base will take up some serious space.

Nice looking BUFF, Jim! And roger that on the display base - mine came out to 38 x 40 in with the revetment and that's with a scale 10 ft separation between the wingtips and the revetment wall  instead of a normal 25-26. If you put it on ramp alert instead of the christmas tree pad, you can save a lot of space.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36 AM

Jim: Nice looking model!!!

Allen: Even if you can't get the photos to post I can get the links you posted to work so no problem. Again- nice work.

Good luck with the GB, I'd consider entering but don't have a BUFF here!

Cliff

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:05 PM

Hey Guys it's up!

THE OFFICIAL IN THE BUFF B52 GROUP BUILD

link:

cs.finescale.com/.../153086.aspx

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:38 PM

Lol! Good title, guys, and the badge looks great! Big Smile.  Can't wait to see this get rolling!

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:44 PM

Rich came up with the final title and badge,

but I gotta' tell ya', that barrel was expensive....Big Smile

Many Thanks RichYesToastYes

Dom

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Posted by Buffirn on Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:38 AM

And now, we return this thread to it's original purpose.  Good Day!

Jim Williams

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:39 PM

Buffirn

And now, we return this thread to it's original purpose.  Good Day!

Lol.....that's right Jim,

Russ's diorama may turn out to be the father of, maybe the grandaddy of, BUFF builds.

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:33 PM

Hi, All,

Just a quick status update. I'm in the process of painting the camoflage on the top of my fuselage so I can't do any additional detailing for awhile. So I've been dividing my time between the diorama base and some of my supporting AGE equipment.

I'm taking it slowly on the base because I want to get it right the first time. I've decided to build it in two sections that I can take apart and put back together (many thanks to Bish for mentioning the he had seen this done). I'm also going to build a free-standing pedestal to set the diorama on. It will be in two sections as well.

I've also begun scratchbuilding an MD-3 power unit. I have the US Aerospace Ground Equipment (AGE) set, but it has the -60 power generator which wasn't available for our B-52s back in 1968. We only had the MD-3s. I've searched for commercial versions in 1/72 but Hannants seems to be the only company willing to market one and theirs is not available yet.

That's about it for now.

Cheers,

Russ


 

 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, March 6, 2013 9:48 PM

Hi Russ,

Looking at that MD-3 unit reminded me of some pictures I have that my Dad took while he was in Vietnam.  I am sure you will recognize some of the equipment!

 

Ken

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 7, 2013 1:01 AM

Russ: Were you going to use a pre-made tarmac? I've had good luck with spraying Krylon textured paint on poster board and then marking out the gaps between the slabs with a Sharpie brand marker.The paint gives a nice gritty finish like fine sandpaper which to me looks like concrete.

BTW: Great photos Ken.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:41 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Russ,

Looking at that MD-3 unit reminded me of some pictures I have that my Dad took while he was in Vietnam.  I am sure you will recognize some of the equipment!

 

Ken

Cool pictures, Ken! We didn't have to deal with too many types of ground equipment. We had to be able to use the MD-3 power generator of course and at night, we needed to operate the light cart. And we had to drive the jammers. The unit your dad is leaning on looks like some kind of compressor for starting the jet engines. The one used on the B-52s was the MA-1A. The large unit behind him could be an air conditioning unit but more likely is a hydraulic test cart.

That hat he is wearing, BTW, was inspired by the Aussies who appeared now and then. The hats were made and sold in both Vietnam and Thailand. I brought one back in 1970 but it was stolen out of my car shortly after I arrived home.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, March 7, 2013 8:16 AM

When and where were the pictures taken, Ken? My old man was there at Bien Hoa from '68 to '69.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:13 AM

Gamera

Russ: Were you going to use a pre-made tarmac? I've had good luck with spraying Krylon textured paint on poster board and then marking out the gaps between the slabs with a Sharpie brand marker.The paint gives a nice gritty finish like fine sandpaper which to me looks like concrete.

BTW: Great photos Ken.

Hey, Cliff,

Good idea! The color is White Onyx...right? I'll give it a try.

Thanks!

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:38 AM

Yes, I think it was the White Onyx. Looks like fresh concrete to me though you could lay a coat or two of paint over it to weather. I just used it as is and then took some thinned black paint, or maybe I should say tinted water, a little thinner than a wash and loaded up a big brush and then flicked it throwing drops of tinted water all over the surface. It soaks in and looks like oil stains to me.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:32 AM

subfixer

When and where were the pictures taken, Ken? My old man was there at Bien Hoa from '68 to '69.

Those pictures were taken between August and December of 1964 at Tan Son Nhut Air Base (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan_Son_Nhut_Air_Base).  He was a crew chief on the RF-101C at that time.  What did your Dad do at Bien Hoa?

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, March 7, 2013 6:29 PM

Hi Russ:

I found those MK 82's on SB's.

Any challenges putting those together?

Also, dumb question, your source for the Plastruct beam stock, i can't find it.

Tx

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:58 PM

Bockscar

Hi Russ:

I found those MK 82's on SB's.

Any challenges putting those together?

Also, dumb question, your source for the Plastruct beam stock, i can't find it.

Tx

Dom

Hi, Dom,

SB's is...? 

If you're looking at the Verlindin MK82s (kit #2508), keep in mind that there are only 12 each 500 lb bombs in the kit your can use with the clip, so you actually have to buy three sets to have enough bombs - unless you're into resin casting.

As for assembling them, it's pretty straight forward - you just have to be careful to get the tail fins straight with the rest of the bomb. If you decide to use my method of mounting them on the panels, let me know and I'll give you some guidelines so you can have the fins oriented the same. BTW, I'm working on version 3 of the clip assembly instructions and should have them done by next week. 

For the Plastruct beam stock, I bought some from two places: Walthers and my local HobbyTown store. The Walther's numbers are: 1/16" I-Beam  PLS 570 90511, and 3/32" I-Beam  PLS 570 90052. You can reference the last 5 numbers at your hobby shop or just about anywhere onliine. I think you can also get them from MegaHobby online (www.megahobby.com).

Cheers,

Russ

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, March 7, 2013 8:23 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Hi Russ:

I found those MK 82's on SB's.

Any challenges putting those together?

Also, dumb question, your source for the Plastruct beam stock, i can't find it.

Tx

Dom

Hi, Dom,

SB's is...? 

If you're looking at the Verlindin MK82s (kit #2508), keep in mind that there are only 12 each 500 lb bombs in the kit your can use with the clip, so you actually have to buy three sets to have enough bombs - unless you're into resin casting.

As for assembling them, it's pretty straight forward - you just have to be careful to get the tail fins straight with the rest of the bomb. If you decide to use my method of mounting them on the panels, let me know and I'll give you some guidelines so you can have the fins oriented the same. BTW, I'm working on version 3 of the clip assembly instructions and should have them done by next week. 

For the Plastruct beam stock, I bought some from two places: Walthers and my local HobbyTown store. The Walther's numbers are: 1/16" I-Beam  PLS 570 90511, and 3/32" I-Beam  PLS 570 90052. You can reference the last 5 numbers at your hobby shop or just about anywhere onliine. I think you can also get them from MegaHobby online (www.megahobby.com).

Cheers,

Russ

 

 

 

Thanks Russ:

SB's was supposed to read Sprue Brothers, sorry 'bout that.

Yeah, 28, right, 500 lb bombs per clip. So was that two or twas that hree clips per bomb bay?Dunce

Somehow I got three stuck in my head. So it's either 5 kits, i.e. enough for 56 bombs, or

7 kits for the full 84 bomb load of three clips.

Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can get that styrene stock.

Dom

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