Me410 A-1: To The Finish! 11/7/10

Wow- I'm out of the klink at last!  Thanks, Hannah- let's get things going again...

I'd better hide my deviled eggs away from that thing! That is fun! A nice break from Pfennig.

Glad you had a nice trip back east.

Awsome build!! The artwork and the Me410 are incredible!!! I'm picking up so much from just this post. Can't wait to see more.

Very cool side project, Chuck!  It has a Maschinen Krieger look to it, Hannah and Fritzi would fit right in, in smartly tailored SDR uniforms.

Thanks for the response on your sealer coat!  I use mineral spirits, and I've been thinking that I should perhaps dilute them a bit.

Best regards,

Brad

Oh, the punnishment I'm taking for this! I'm still working on my Me410, but this service project has a deadline zooming up, so here's more egg-citement!

So you have gotten the "egg-zactly" the right  project to feather your nest as this too, will make you the *** of the walk, eh?    Sorry couldn' help ma-self

However you first picture did bring a tear to me eye;

 [Ref: the added text]

Sniff  I'm over it now, so go ahead with your project

HEYYY! There he is.

I guess there is one egg that won't end up in the frying pan. Looks nice. My minds eye is imagining a battery of those backing up Hammers Slammers tanks.

Hope the canopy comes out right.

, Dave

Hey, guys- I'm still alive, just a little distracted.  This little doodle is an entry in fundraiser for an art forum I frequent.  You get a wooden egg and your imagination and go it.   Wheeeeee!

As for the 410, I've pored a new canopy mold- looks much better- just have to pry it out of the vac!  I've also marked out the lines for the rioll cage on the first mold, so things will get back in gear soon.  Had a nice 10-day trip back east, too. 

Baron, good ol' Future is what a use to undercoat my oil washes.  The key is to thin the oils with a mild thinner- the Humbrol stuff is just perfect.

Cheers!

chuk

We need our fix over here!

One icon sums it all up:

Great work!!!

Where are my favorite maintenance personel and that crazy coin?

Should I dare ask what her name is?

And by the way great work. This bird will turn out nice.

Your wash technique produces great results, Chuck!

I'm sorry if you noted this, but what did you use to seal the coat under the oil wash?  That's an area that sometimes gives me trouble.

Thanks!

Once again, Chuck, well done and I wish I had your patience!

Thanks, guys!  yes, I did do those pics for Mal- and he greases my palm with masks.  Not a bad deal, eh?   Ah, Jim- that canopy- there's a smidge about it in the following- read on!

Well, I attended the wedding of dear friends this weekend, and still had time to do a bit on the 410.  Let's start this post with an image appropriate to our American holiday:

the Baron

Jim Barton:

... But what does Waffen Farbe mean?

 

Ich gebe meinen Senf dazu-I'll add my two cents (as an old German teacher).

A good translation is "arm of service color".  For example, Andrew Mollo chose to translate it that way in his "German Uniforms of World War II".   It's actually a contraction of "Waffengattungfarbe,", "Waffengattung" being "arm" or "branch of service", in the sense of "infantry," "artillery" and "cavalry".

The "weapon's color" would be rather "die Farbe des Waffen".

Chuck, the masks are fantastic!  And do I see clearly-did you illustrate the instruction sheet?  Ausgezeichnet!

Prost!

Brad

Thanks, Brad!

Chuck: As I understand it, the prototype has framing on both the interior and exterior of the canopy, but the replacement canopy for the model has all the framing on the exterior?

Hmmm. Better keep that a secret from Pfennig or he will not be a happy man, uh, coin, uh...

Jim Barton

... But what does Waffen Farbe mean?

Ich gebe meinen Senf dazu-I'll add my two cents (as an old German teacher).

A good translation is "arm of service color".  For example, Andrew Mollo chose to translate it that way in his "German Uniforms of World War II".   It's actually a contraction of "Waffengattungfarbe,", "Waffengattung" being "arm" or "branch of service", in the sense of "infantry," "artillery" and "cavalry".

The "weapon's color" would be rather "die Farbe des Waffen".

Chuck, the masks are fantastic!  And do I see clearly-did you illustrate the instruction sheet?  Ausgezeichnet!

Prost!

Brad

Thanks, Duster!  Here's a  quick update- time is short!

Gosh Chuck

It seems like only yesterday that I saw the start this build  (well to be honest, I did go back through from the beginning yesterday)  and here we are nearing the fiddly bits. 

  Good job with the masks ( I do remember the illustrations from earlier on- must be kinda weird to see them from a users perspective)  I read about them on a UK forum and saw the web site "vewy inter-resting"  might make national markings etc more custom to the specific plane being modeled.

JU 388 hummm? might be interesting to see how you tweak that one too

The next project?  Drumroll!!   The Planet models Ju388 K/L- oh, momma!

Thanks, a bunch, guys- :D

Nothing makes you feel like you're making progress like adding the insignia and markings, right, Fritzi?

chukw

I sent Fritzi and Hannah on a mission to CMK, who have the only commercially-available vac 410 canopy in their interior set.   They offered to make my next online build a CMK kit if they'd sell me just the canopy, the little cuties.  CMK not only offered me a canopy, but my pick from their catalog- wow!  Talk about being a kid in a candy shop!     Care to take a guess at what it will be? 

Cheers1

chuk

A MIG-21 MF with Czech markings or at the very least a highly modified DML ME-262?

chukw

CMK not only offered me a canopy, but my pick from their catalog- wow!  Talk about being a kid in a candy shop!

 

     Why Chuck your not going to fall for such a blatant attempt by big business to subvert your art into crass comercialism -are you ? If you feel they ask too much , please send CMK my name I'll glady subvert

chukw

Care to take a guess at what it will be? 

 

A  Czechoslovakian B-35 mark 3 with operational flaps , landing gear and lighted instrument panel?  OR  

 something of the German Luft persuasion  

Hi again Chuk

Thanks for the "scale black" ratio.  I'll give it a shot next time it comes up.

The LifeColor thinner didn't work so well for me, even when adding Vallejo acrylics retarder.  Lots of tip dry.  I read somewhere someone used Tamiya acrylic thinner with the LifeColor paints so I gave it a shot.  It worked PERFECTLY and the tip dried in about 1/4 the time.  Made a huge difference.

Anyway, just in case anyone wants to give the LC paints a try, use the Tamiya thinner.  The colors they have are excellent and the finish is nice and satin-y.

Andy

Thanks, guys!

Pat, I consulted plenty of photos that showed a solid mount.  There were many variations for all the different engines and airframes- cheers!

Andy, I like the Lifecolor paints just fine- easy to work with, although I did have to frequently wipe the needle tip as paint built up while spraying.  No biggie!  That "scale black" was a roughly- 50-50 mix, but t's an "eyeball" kind of thing.

Hiya, Jim!  By Waffen Farbe I meant a fairly literal translation ( I guess) of "weapon color".   Me no speaken zee doitch.     Thanks for the invites! 

Mikey, I sure did use latex from an Alumilite kit.  It's Type I, and should be Type II- more flexible.  Or, more likely, RTV, as you suggest.  The paln was to make a female resin mold and do a vac from that, as the kit canopy fit well. Read on for the solution!

Pawel, can you ever be "too smart"?  ;D  Here's the smartest plan I came up with:

I sent Fritzi and Hannah on a mission to CMK, who have the only commercially-available vac 410 canopy in their interior set.   They offered to make my next online build a CMK kit if they'd sell me just the canopy, the little cuties.  CMK not only offered me a canopy, but my pick from their catalog- wow!  Talk about being a kid in a candy shop!     Care to take a guess at what it will be? 

Cheers1

chuk

Jim Barton

But what does Waffen Farbe mean?

I don't know what Chuk exactly meant, but it could be understood as colour of the weapon (Waffen - weapons or also military service branch, Farbe - colour)

Chuk, I start too worry you might be getting "too smart" on the canopy, but that's just me. I admire your work and enjoy the WIP, so keep 'em comin', have a nice day

Pawel

Chuk you didn't make the mold out of latex rubber did you? you should have gone with RTV mold making rubber it will hold the shape of the molded object like your canopy and not fall apart like the mold you just made.

And did you know I think it might be possible to use the master that you would make from the new mold and the new mold itself as a male/female press to press out a new canopy. It would be a new play on the old heat and smash thermaforming technique.

Sweet paint job! Love it! But what does Waffen Farbe mean?

Looking forward to hearing how you solved your casting and mold issues!

If you're a member of IPMS and can finish this plane by August, you ought to bring it (and your Helldiver) to Phoenix for the convention! Even if you don't enter the contest but are going to attend it, plan to come to a meeting of IPMS Craig Hewitt as a guest the first Tuesday evening in August.

Outstanding, Chuck!  I love your splinter pattern, and the mottling is excellent.  Can't wait for the next installment!

Hi Chuk

How did you like the LifeColor?  I've found it's the only acrylic i can do mottling with.  Never had good luck with the MM line of paints.

Anyway, what was the paint ratio of the "scale black" that Brett Green had come up with?

Build looks excellent!  Sorry about the canopy mold.

Cheers

andy

Cool build and amazing way to post It!  I have a question however.  Built a bf 109 yrs. ago as a kid and did it with an open cowling to see the engine and seem to recall that the engine mounts had openings in them to reduce weight where on your 410 they are just depressions.  Did the engineers add material back to strengthen them?  Just wondering.  Keep up the great work!

                                                                                           Pat