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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:52 PM

Manstein's revenge

 

 TarnShip:

 

sorry to say this Manny,,,,,,but, no A-6E in Vietnam, I checked every air wing's Intruder squadrons for you,,,,no joy

I did not check the Jarheads,,,,,lol, I forgot

Rex

 

Thanks...I wonder if there is any differences in the basic airframes of the E and earlier models...my skinny tells me that the E just had upgraded avionics...if that's the case the exterior could be unchanged??? 

 

Haven't gone looking, but avionics upgrades would really only change the various lumps & bumps, I'm guessing. If Medicman is right about changing the wing to a composite, there would likely be differences in the panel lines.

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Posted by Hercmech on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:22 PM

VanceCrozier

 Manstein's revenge:

 

 TarnShip:

 

sorry to say this Manny,,,,,,but, no A-6E in Vietnam, I checked every air wing's Intruder squadrons for you,,,,no joy

I did not check the Jarheads,,,,,lol, I forgot

Rex

 

Thanks...I wonder if there is any differences in the basic airframes of the E and earlier models...my skinny tells me that the E just had upgraded avionics...if that's the case the exterior could be unchanged??? 

 

 

Haven't gone looking, but avionics upgrades would really only change the various lumps & bumps, I'm guessing. If Medicman Hercmech is right about changing the wing to a composite, there would likely be differences in the panel lines.

I rarely have anything constructive to add... so I fixed it for you.Wink


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Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:32 PM

Medic  HercMech IS right about the later composite wing deal,,,,,,,but, that didn't come around until a long time after the intro of the A-6E

"backing" an A-6E kit into an A-6A is fairly easy in principle

you are sort of stuck with a late war A-6A, unless you can get some Fujimi parts from someone

the Air Brake covers, part 28B and 29B were on late aircraft, early aircraft had the perforated brakes in that location (if you can get a pair of the early brakes from a Fujimi builder that built the late A version,,,,,you would be golden)

leave off the avionics cooling scoop, part 34A, and the TRAM turret, part 65B, also the part 40B on the starboard side, near the canopy

Part 58B needs the radome shape changed to a more rounded style

 

hope this helps

Rex

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:40 PM

Hercmech

 

 VanceCrozier:

 

 

 Manstein's revenge:

 

 TarnShip:

 

sorry to say this Manny,,,,,,but, no A-6E in Vietnam, I checked every air wing's Intruder squadrons for you,,,,no joy

I did not check the Jarheads,,,,,lol, I forgot

Rex

 

Thanks...I wonder if there is any differences in the basic airframes of the E and earlier models...my skinny tells me that the E just had upgraded avionics...if that's the case the exterior could be unchanged??? 

 

 

 

Haven't gone looking, but avionics upgrades would really only change the various lumps & bumps, I'm guessing. If Medicman Hercmech is right about changing the wing to a composite, there would likely be differences in the panel lines.

 

 

I rarely have anything constructive to add... so I fixed it for you.Wink

Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

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Posted by Hercmech on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:42 PM

It happens to the best of us...heck it even happens to the worst of us...like me Stick out tongue


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:06 PM

I wonder if I can find decals for the one from the movie:  "Flight of the Intruder"?   The world wonders...

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Posted by RedCorvette on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:19 PM

Manstein's revenge

I wonder if I can find decals for the one from the movie:  "Flight of the Intruder"?   The world wonders...

MicroScale sheet 72-80, if you can find a copy (no, you can't have mine...). Wink

The movie aircraft only had a partial g/w scheme, so you'll have to decide if you want a historically accurate scheme or what was in the movie.

Other interesting Viet Nam subjects might be a -B, -C or one of the experimental green camoflaged planes.

Mark 

 

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:26 PM

a B or a C is a lot of work, though

unless you build an A-6B PAT/ARM (the third type of B),,,then, you just build an A and mark it as a B,,,,,,all of those changes were internal

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:30 PM

RedCorvette

 Manstein's revenge:

I wonder if I can find decals for the one from the movie:  "Flight of the Intruder"?   The world wonders...

 

MicroScale sheet 72-80, if you can find a copy ... 

Can I have yours?

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:25 PM

VanceCrozier

 Manstein's revenge:

What's the skinny???---I see that it comes w/ a folding wing option...

 

Yes, folding wing option is correct. Not really a BIG MODERN US NAVY GROUPIE by any means, but the Intruder is "ugly enough to be interesting", and has folding wings. Glass / details / decals look good in the box - SOLD!! (well, stolen, for $7cdn...)  Much larger machine than I was expecting.

http://www.bnamodelworld.com/images/medium//kits/IT041_MED.jpg

(oob built pics below, not mine of course...)

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal3/2101-2200/Gal2111_A-6_Poff/01.jpg

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal3/2101-2200/Gal2111_A-6_Poff/02.jpg

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal3/2101-2200/Gal2111_A-6_Poff/03.jpg

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal3/2101-2200/Gal2111_A-6_Poff/04.jpg

 

I dig this and want to play!!!

As a side note....VMFA(AW)-332 "Moonlighters" (pictured above)was my bro's first squadron (F-18Ds though)

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:23 PM

In the spirit of all things that can be folded---GAME ON!!!...

Vance, get to work on a Badge ASAP...report to the Wolf's Lair in the morning at 0630 hours w/ your top three ideas sketched out in color on acid-free paper...

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Posted by RedCorvette on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:42 PM

Manstein's revenge

 RedCorvette:

 Manstein's revenge:

I wonder if I can find decals for the one from the movie:  "Flight of the Intruder"?   The world wonders...

 

MicroScale sheet 72-80, if you can find a copy ... 

 

Can I have yours?

Sorry, Manny...

Plan 'B' would be to find a Revell "Flight of the Intruder" boxing of their 1/72 A-6.  Throw away the plastic bits and keep the decals.

Mark

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 7:39 PM

Manstein's revenge

In the spirit of all things that can be folded---GAME ON!!!...

Vance, get to work on a Badge ASAP...report to the Wolf's Lair in the morning at 0630 hours w/ your top three ideas sketched out in color on acid-free paper...

Jawohl, mein herr! Will there be cupcakes?...

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:15 PM

fermis

 I dig this and want to play!!!

 

I think he's....I'm...bluffing

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Posted by Gregbbear on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:02 PM

Despite me being massively over-committed, if you guys do this (GB that is), I am sooo in!  I just coincidently ordered an Obscureco A-6B conversion.  It comes with the nose and the i.p. and I already have Standard ARM's and Shrikes, and some Wolfpak decals.  The set is supposed to be used with a Fujimi, but I am hoping it will work on a Hase.  I already have plans for all my Fujimi's....

Btw, the best part of "Flight of the Intruder" the book, was the "Iron Hand" mission in a "B".

Cheers,

Greg

- yat yas!

 

   

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:02 PM

Just in case anyone was wondering.

The first Navy unit to deploy for a cruise with the A-6E model was VA-85 in late 1971. Their only deployment over Vietnam was with CVW-14's VA-196, grouped in that unit with the A-6B SAM buster and KA-6D tanker, off the Enterprise (CVAN-65) from September 1972 to June 1973.

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Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:28 PM

the VA-85 cruise was a MED cruise on the Forrestal

and VA-196 only operated the B model in mixes with the A, not the E

the first -196 E cruise was on the Enterprise from July 1976-on

"Fleet Locations" sometimes matches up with GoNavy site,,,,,,but,,,,in all cases that they differ,,,,,,,"Fleet" is the tie breaker

Rex

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Posted by jimbot58 on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:16 AM

I didn't fold mine but I was happy with my results. This was strictly a straight OOB build

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:10 AM

fermis

 

 fermis:

 

 

 I dig this and want to play!!!

 

 

 

 

I think he's....I'm...bluffing

Was that a flippin' fermis fake-out? Awwww come on, you know you want to... it has folding wings!!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:14 AM

VanceCrozier

 Manstein's revenge:

In the spirit of all things that can be folded---GAME ON!!!...

Vance, get to work on a Badge ASAP...report to the Wolf's Lair in the morning at 0630 hours w/ your top three ideas sketched out in color on acid-free paper...

 

Jawohl, mein herr! Will there be cupcakes?...

Yes, there will be two cupcakes in every participant's pot and a Chevy in the driveway...

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:15 AM

VanceCrozier

 fermis:

 

 fermis:

 

 

 I dig this and want to play!!!

 

 

 

 

I think he's....I'm...bluffing

 

Was that a flippin' fermis fake-out? Awwww come on, you know you want to... it has folding wings!!

I think he is bluffing about bluffing...

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:32 AM

Manstein's revenge

 

 VanceCrozier:

 

 

 Manstein's revenge:

In the spirit of all things that can be folded---GAME ON!!!...

Vance, get to work on a Badge ASAP...report to the Wolf's Lair in the morning at 0630 hours w/ your top three ideas sketched out in color on acid-free paper...

 

 

Jawohl, mein herr! Will there be cupcakes?...

 

Yes, there will be two cupcakes in every participant's pot and a Chevy in the driveway...

 

Yessssssssss!!!!

A cool optional camo photo to share, also showing the integrated ladder in use....

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:33 AM

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:37 AM

Keep the inspirational pics coming....

GB will run from 6-1 through 12-1-2012...

...all makes, marks and scales welcomed...already started kits and crossovers also welcomed...

I always pitch a big tent...

Now get to friggin' work...and post pics...

Where's that badge, Vance...???

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:58 AM

Manstein's revenge

Keep the inspirational pics coming....

GB will run from 6-1 through 12-1-2012...

...all makes, marks and scales welcomed...already started kits and crossovers also welcomed...

I always pitch a big tent...

Now get to friggin' work...and post pics...

Where's that badge, Vance...???

The Badge... haha - "The cat's away" today, I'll be taking a long lunch & gathering some ideas up for the badge. I was going to start it last night but couldn't resist cracking my box open last night. Embarrassed

Bigger than I thought...

Good clear parts...

The gear bays on the Italeri kit aren't boxed in...

But considering this is the angle someone will have to see that opening - well, fermis would probably fill it up with Arizona Tea tin, but I'm leaving it alone.

Wing fold detail is an insert sandwiched between the upper & lower wing halves. I'll take a look at some pics, but I think the only thing I'll need to add is some hydraulic lines - and if I do that right I could probably use thin brass rod which will also strengthen the joint...

Inner wing assemblies glued, dry-fitted into the fuselage halves...

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Hercmech on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:22 AM

Wow that trip to the second hand shop has really inspired you Vance!  Lots of builds you have going...and at the office too.


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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:27 AM

Hercmech

Wow that trip to the second hand shop has really inspired you Vance!  Lots of builds you have going...and at the office too.

I swear, I can stop anytime I want to.... Embarrassed

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:28 AM

VanceCrozier

 Manstein's revenge:

Keep the inspirational pics coming....

GB will run from 6-1 through 12-1-2012...

...all makes, marks and scales welcomed...already started kits and crossovers also welcomed...

I always pitch a big tent...

Now get to friggin' work...and post pics...

Where's that badge, Vance...???

 

The Badge... haha - "The cat's away" today, I'll be taking a long lunch & gathering some ideas up for the badge. I was going to start it last night but couldn't resist cracking my box open last night. Embarrassed

Bigger than I thought...

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Grumman%20A6%20Intruder/IMG_2992sm.jpg

Good clear parts...

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Grumman%20A6%20Intruder/IMG_2991sm.jpg

The gear bays on the Italeri kit aren't boxed in...

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Grumman%20A6%20Intruder/IMG_2994sm.jpg

But considering this is the angle someone will have to see that opening - well, fermis would probably fill it up with Arizona Tea tin, but I'm leaving it alone.

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Grumman%20A6%20Intruder/IMG_2993sm.jpg

Wing fold detail is an insert sandwiched between the upper & lower wing halves. I'll take a look at some pics, but I think the only thing I'll need to add is some hydraulic lines - and if I do that right I could probably use thin brass rod which will also strengthen the joint...

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Grumman%20A6%20Intruder/IMG_2995sm.jpg

Inner wing assemblies glued, dry-fitted into the fuselage halves...

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/VanceCrozier/Grumman%20A6%20Intruder/IMG_2996sm.jpg

Wow---that is a sweet-looking kit!!!  I'd love to see the decals sheet while I await my Sprue Bro's shipment...I ordered some AM ejection seats and some masks for it, as well as some AM decals but AM stuff was hard to find!!!

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:45 AM

hmmm, forgot to snap a pic of the decals, will do that this evening. This is the oob sheet though:

Both are low-vis options, but I saw sheets in my search that had a red bird's head for the Navy (Roadrunners) option, and a yellow crescent moon on the Marines' option.

(Starfighter decals)

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Medicman71 on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:48 AM

Ok fine. I'm in but it'll be a while. I gotta finish what I have on the bench. I'll be doing a 1/48 Revell A-6E Intruder. Gonna get some aftermarket stuff and decals.

Building- (All 1/48) F-14A Tomcat, F-16C Blk 30, He 129

 

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