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Posted by sfcmac on Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:23 PM

Ok where am I at?

Seeing PBY's in my dreams at this rate!  I don't know if you fellows notice how I pre paint almost everything. Especially on larger models. The real benefit to this is to simplify masking. Stuck on the Canopy but painted the blisters separately just because they look a little tricky to position. You can see other than the canopy and blisters that masking is a simple quick thing now. Lightly brushed Zinc chromate green on the canopy in very light coats. This seals the mask and reduces the chance of bleeding under when it drys. Then it's a simple matter of a quick spray of the blue gray!

Wow that seam is looking much more better. ( Texas Talk) Ye Haw!

Stuck my wheels where I can see them! I call it Frank the Impaler style modeling! Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by namrednef on Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:58 PM

 

Beautiful progress Aaron!

(Psssssssst! The Eduard masks are not that simple to use!)

Simply great work you have done.....and so quickly!Confused [%-)]

Can't wait to see the "Piggy Bank" standing up on her own!Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:33 PM
LOL Well at least you found them!!!!Laugh [(-D] Again excellent progress!!!
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by sfcmac on Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:00 PM

 simpilot34 wrote:
Aaron EXCELLENT progress mate!!!!!!!! Coming along quite well, and BIG! OK, OK,OK, WE HAVE TO KNOW!!!!!! Where did you find your wheels??????????????Confused [%-)]

Thanks Ritchie and Sean! I thought I was actually accomplishing something today then Frank zips in and out working on 4 complicated builds at one time! Jeeze how to you keep up with that?

 I got all my masking done! Wish now I had put my name in Nam's hat for those mask. That is a lot of masking and I never seem to have any Tamiya tape? Always mean to get some but always slips my mind!

Found the wheels when I took the photo's! I had painted them dark german gray and laid them on top of the German gray bottle. They blended right in! Good camo!  Saw them when I looked at the pics. DUH!  I knew they couldn't be far... BTW has anyone seen my propellers? Banged Head [banghead] Really need to straighten up the bench this is getting outta hand zooming from one build to the next! I am having more fun than a flea at the dog pound!

I was all set to tack on the mask window stuff and paint but almost forgot the stuff under the canopy. Just one part looked kinda empty compared to the pic in the instructions so I added a bit of clutter.

Nothing special but something in an empty area that shows up. After it dries Ill paint the fist coat the interior color and tack it on and go to town! It's getting there! Wink [;)]

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Posted by Summit on Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:51 PM

 simpilot34 wrote:
Aaron EXCELLENT progress mate!!!!!!!! Coming along quite well, and BIG! OK, OK,OK, WE HAVE TO KNOW!!!!!! Where did you find your wheels??????????????Confused [%-)]

I bet they were on top of the Paint Jar the whole time Whistling [:-^]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:39 PM
Aaron EXCELLENT progress mate!!!!!!!! Coming along quite well, and BIG! OK, OK,OK, WE HAVE TO KNOW!!!!!! Where did you find your wheels??????????????Confused [%-)]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Summit on Sunday, January 11, 2009 4:21 PM

If Bondo gets sunburned it is still Roger's turn for First~Aid Whistling [:-^]

Aaron - you are making progress with leaps and bounds. I cant even begin to tell you how excited I am to see the progress you have made.  Thanks for the tips on the Fuse joining. I also commend you for the pictures Thumbs Up [tup] - when I get into something like that I just keep working and forget to stop and click a pic.  I will try the same method joining the 1/48 PBY so  mine doesn't look like I used a Hammer or my Boot ! Propeller [8-]

I got the wing sections on the 1/72 CG PBY late last night, all 17.25" worth Laugh [(-D]

Believe it or not I mucked off the bench today , and have been messing with a 1/72 Matchbox JU-188 for another forum I visit. (UAMF) 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:44 PM
 Division 6 wrote:

 cardshark_14 wrote:
Of course, no one makes a resin beaching gear set in 1/72...Of course.

You can always make a mold and cast your own.Wink [;)]

E... 



I think that's probably what I'm going to do...But in the meantime, see you after the game!  Go Chargers!!!Party [party]Make a Toast [#toast]

Cheers,
Alex
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Posted by sfcmac on Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:25 PM

 Ha I enjoy Bondo's conversations! What you fellows missed is he is going to the beach Today! Supplies on the porch. Evidently I am not the only one enjoying the sunshine and outside warmth.  Frank the 68 was this morning, The sun is coming in my 2 open windows now, Fans a blowing and it's holding steady at 75 in my room!

Been working on the PBY last night and this AM! Joined the fuselage all up!  It is one very long curvy seam along the top and bottom! let me tell you!. Did it bit by bit getting as close as possible. Taked it in places with superglue and then used the liquid cement to weld it together.

 Filled it bit by bit with some Mr Surfacer along the entire thing and commenced to sanding and sanding and sanding. Hey look there are my wheels! Party [party]

then sanded some more.

Did the large 5 part wing in steps.  Again little by little. Got the same seam treatment but wasn't nearly as rough as the fuselage with all the curves in it.

Got the wing looking almost perfect in the fit. Had to remove two locating pins on the rear back inside for the last two top pieces or they would have thrown off the fit. The large pieces really don't take much to throw off the angle and fit. A little descrepancy on one end equals a big gap on the other. How long is this wing like 2 1/2 feet? Looking large!

Going to take a quick food break as I am enjoying myself so much I forgot to eat then I am ready to start masking all that clear stuff that I Futured up 3 or 4 days ago!  Make a Toast [#toast]

Oh yeah? Alex! I don't think the painted type mattered as long as it was good and dry and covered the whole plastic part. Just need that barrier to stop the reaction between the rubber/vinyle and the styrene. Heck a coat of future might work too?  Yeah I know those Armor fellows... Laugh [(-D] But they deal with rubber and vinyl at lot on those kits. Tracks/ truck tires extc. Probably can trust them on that.

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Posted by namrednef on Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:29 AM

 

Hiya Gang! The BVD took most of yesterday off as I felt the flu coming on (with all the attendant symptomsYuck [yuck]Sleepy [|)]Dead [xx(]) Nyquil, gin and sleep seems to have revived me! All Hail THE BVD!

Alex! Congratulations!!! Well Done! Here's to the best forever! Now you can start your own GB! 1/1 people!

Those rubber tires.....had you not already bought one.....a tire could've been a ring! As it stands.....put them on ebay as designer toe rings! Think of it as extra traction.

I heard that if you thin the hub paint color with acetone......the hub will eat the tire!Laugh [(-D]

BondoFace: Love catching up on posts when you hold a one-sided conversation with yourself!

Thank You ALL for keeping everything current!

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Posted by Division 6 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:44 AM

 cardshark_14 wrote:
Of course, no one makes a resin beaching gear set in 1/72...Of course.

You can always make a mold and cast your own.Wink [;)]

 

E... 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 4:23 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!! All the best in your future together!!!!!!!Party [party] ALE ALL AROUND!!!! Alex I haven't even started my Cat yet. Have to finish the 'bag and the corsair first. Then will try and tackle a cat.
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:51 AM
Armor!? Shock [:O]  You mean...I mean...Armor??  Who goes over there?! Whistling [:-^]Wink [;)]

Thanks Aaron!  I'll have to give that a shot...maybe I can finally beat the stupid rubber tires. Can I paint them with normal enamel or acrylic?  Do they have to be primed with something weird?  I have never touched those darn things ever since that Tigercat...I guess I was scarred for life!

Cheers,
Alex
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Posted by sfcmac on Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:28 AM
I was just reading somewhere on this very forum alex about that issue. Think it was over in armor.  The fix is easy. Simply paint all parts that will or could contact with the rubber.  They say the paint barrier is enough to prevent the rubber eating the parts.
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:15 AM
I hate rubber tires!  Ever since I built my first AMT Tigercat at the age of 8, just to have the rubber eat the plastic wheels, I've despised the use of rubber in kits.  I usually buy resin wheels, or dig something out of my spares box so that I don't have to use them.  Of course, the Academy Catalina comes with rubber tires...Of course, no one makes a resin beaching gear set in 1/72...Of course, my spares box comes up empty the one time it matters...

Ranting aside, how can I use these tires, (since it looks like I have to if I want beaching gear) without having them eat the plastic rims?  Sean, does your Catalina have kit have rubber tires? Blech!  I hate those things!

Cheers,
Alex
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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:07 PM

Geez, one more post and I've fielded a basketball team of five eyes, five legs, five Johnsons and one and one half brains! Nice to get caught up, though.

 

Hmmm....OOOPS.Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

We're going to the beach tomorrow and the "supplies" are out on the porch...gotta go check em!!

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:04 PM

Congratulations, Alex and Hillary!! I did the trad thing too, 22 years ago and it pissed her off, but we're still holding water and her Dad likes me a lot. Definitely plan to have that McCarthyite, Union busting, keep me frozen by the case horse runnoff at your reception!!!Pirate [oX)]

Good grief, Seattle, in the day we used to drink Ranier Ale at 99 cent a 12 pack, and Oly, yeah!!!

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:58 PM
 Summit wrote:

Bondo - this is for you, you commented on another thread about my Prop. Shaft blocks  - I did the same on this build. I like the prop to be one of the last steps.No mishaps that way. I cut a small square of styrene scrap and cemented the four contact corners. This way I can glue the Prop. on later without fear of the shaft falling in to never be seen again.

Oh, I duuno, I usually just shake it hard upside down for awhile till it shows up in the pilot's lap!!! Thanks Summit.

When I was in engineering class I designed a pressure vessel and drew it up. The Prof sez- " I understand that after the mechanic inside who tightens the bolts dries up and blows away, how are we going to get his tools out?"

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:52 PM
 Summit wrote:

Today is PBY Saturday !  Aaron's weighted tarps had the gears upstairs working overtime. I remembered I had "Sticky weights" from my Model RR days. I spent half the morning searching - but I found them . 

Stick weights are good, but as Nam recently figuredout, on a rare lucent day, go down to the tire shop and they'll give you old lead wheel balance weights for FREE!!! Always makes me happy!!!

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:47 PM
 namrednef wrote:

My experience with weathered white colors in real life was the white looked and was chalky. If you rubbed a finger on the paint some would be on your finger.

Wasn't that your old Cordoba with the gold vinyl top???
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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:26 PM

Dog gone it Alex! It's guys like you that make life so rough for guys like me!  Sounds like a freaky harliquine romance! I was expecting you to toss her a six pack of Coors with a ring made from the pop tops and say something like ,"So uh you wanna get hitched or just fool around"

Seriously congrats to you both!  I'm still all choked up hugging my fuzzy blanket after reading it. Just don't tell my wife. I got that dag burned anniversary to think up something. I still like the six pack idea! Bow [bow]Party [party]Boohoo [BH]Thumbs Up [tup]

BTW I picked the historically worst weather day of the year to get married! She still made it. Wink [;)]

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:16 PM
 MKelley wrote:

cardshark_14, Thanks for the heads up onthe PBY web site. Looked around and found a color photo of the one that I am trying to complete for the GB.

As you can see she is going to be a colorful bird. This gives me a great look at what it will look like when I am done Smile [:)]. Now I have no excuse on the finish!



Glad you like it...its quite extensive...

Cheers,
Alex
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:15 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

Alex! You never said? Did you set a date? Got a ring?  What's the poop did you get down on one knee?  Inquiring minds want to know!  Did she at least say yes or just laugh? I'd make you shave before you kissed me!  Coor's breath! Yuck [yuck]

Good grief pick on Aaron day?



Aaron!  We're only picking on ya cause we like ya!  You're right, though, telling you guys about it completely slipped my mind...Sorry...Too many Catalinas! 

I did it right.  I took her Dad out to the Boeing Museum of Flight (he's an airplane guy too) then to a nice Italian restaurant without her knowing and asked for his blessing.  A few days later, I took her up to her favorite mountain overlook of the city, then got down on one knee, in the middle of the snow and yuck and freezing cold in Seattle, at her favorite mountain overlook of the city at night on New Year's Eve, and...she said yes!  We watched the ball drop, and the fireworks shoot off the Space Needle.  Then we went back to her folks' house and told everyone and had a big party!Party [party]  I had gotten a ring, and brought it up with me, without her knowing a thing about it...so I put it on her finger then.  She loves it!  We haven't set an exact date yet, but its going to be late July or early August of this year.

And, yeah, I shaved first! LOL!  I'm actually a pretty clean shaven guy, it just grows really quickly.  If you've seen me in the last 2 Secret Santa GBs, I haven't shaved that morning...one day later, and its like I never shaved at all.

Anyways, we've been busy planning wedding stuff ever since.  She has a big deadline on Monday morning, so she's been at work all day today, which means a break from wedding planning, some time on here, a nice cold Coor's
Make a Toast [#toast], and some modeling time!  Hooray!

Thanks for all the congratulations, everyone!  We're both really happy!

PS - Aaron, check the cushions...that's where I lose things all the time.

Cheers,
Alex

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Posted by MKelley on Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:02 PM

cardshark_14, Thanks for the heads up onthe PBY web site. Looked around and found a color photo of the one that I am trying to complete for the GB.

As you can see she is going to be a colorful bird. This gives me a great look at what it will look like when I am done Smile [:)]. Now I have no excuse on the finish!

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:52 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
 Anyone seen where I put my wheels? Confused [%-)]

Check under the Tarps Propeller [8-]

I lost the Prop, landing gear for a revell 1/72 Corsair several months ago. I put them in a ziplock so they would not get lost and .... I have not seen them since.Disapprove [V]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:38 PM

Hmmm Great stuff Sean! Great tip on the prop shafts!  Still haven't found my wheels? Huh? Musta put them in a real safe place to dry. The will turn up. Always do..  Been messing round painting stuff on and off all day to let it dry in between.  Trying to be a patient little builder.  Really I have amazed myself. These wheels have to be with-in an arms reach of my chair. I am just astounded!  I don't really need them right at the moment anyhow but it's odd ya KNow? Thanks for the info and offers but this is getting personal! Grumpy [|(]

 Alex! You never said? Did you set a date? Got a ring?  What's the poop did you get down on one knee?  Inquiring minds want to know!  Did she at least say yes or just laugh? I'd make you shave before you kissed me!  Coor's breath! Yuck [yuck]

 Good grief pick on Aaron day?

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:24 PM
Sean, that is a great idea!  I'm gonna have to try that, as I usually lose my prop shafts for that exact reason.  Thumbs Up [tup]

I came across another cool website just now...its not useful to me, but all you guys building rescue birds should check it out...

http://www.pbyrescue.com/ 

If you go to their photos section, there's a lot to look at.

On another note, can anyone tell me if the part of the wing that the float retracts into is actually chromate primer, like Academy calls for, or if it was oversprayed with the undersurfaces color?  I'm toying around with an idea for a neat effect.  'The Dabster' was beat all to hell, with chipped and faded paint everywhere...I'm thinking about painting that part of the wing chromate primer, then applying chipped black paint over it, so the green shows through...Whaddya think?  I'm not sure if it would look odd or if it would work.

Cheers,
Alex

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Posted by Summit on Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:12 PM

The 1/72 CG PBY progress has been good today. I actually could have joined the Fuse halfs , but since I decided to order a set of mask for this and the  1/48 scale PBY  .. I also ordered a Vacuform canopy set - waiting for that before I go any farther.

Bondo - this is for you, you commented on another thread about my Prop. Shaft blocks  - I did the same on this build. I like the prop to be one of the last steps.No mishaps that way. I cut a small square of styrene scrap and cemented the four contact corners. This way I can glue the Prop. on later without fear of the shaft falling in to never be seen again.

Shaft

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Division 6 on Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:44 PM

Thanks for the link.

I actually have all thos pix saved.

I did watch a video on youtube that had a quick glims of what I needed to know. 

 

By the way, while tinkering with the bulkheads and floors I realized the cockpit floor on the Academy 1/72 is wrong.

There shouldn't be that big open slot down the middle.

Time to use the 1/48 for reference to make a new one that will accommodate the wheel well below. 

Since I have thin vacformed windows it will be seen. Wink [;)]

E... 

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:50 PM

Ah! See!  One of those days! I hit the 'Post' button too quickly...

Eric, for your interior...for what its worth, check out this build.  I'm sure its been posted before, but it is immaculate work, and he didn't bother doing much at all to the interior of the wheel wells:
http://www.ipms-deutschland.business.t-online.de/Flugzeuge/Gaeste/Wolf_Catalina.html

I think its safe to use that as reference. 

Thom, A guy I know, Bryan Ribbans runs a website called Seawings.  He's interested in your PBY stuff, and wants to talk to you.  Here's a link to the discussion...Don't be offended by Tasse...he's kind of an Censored [censored].
http://www.bestfreeforums.com/forums/i-just-found-out-about-a-pby-site-i-hadnt-seen-before-vt419-httpseawingscou.html

Cheers,
Alex
 

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