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The Officially Shameless PBY/Halloween '09 GB

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Posted by namrednef on Monday, November 10, 2008 5:53 PM

 bondoman wrote:
Oh just kidding! When do we get to see the yellowwing PBY? It sounds like a great subject. I'll be finishing my PHGB entry on, ummm, December 8th!

Yeah? What year!Laugh [(-D]

I just fused the fuse last night...... goes together well, but I'm cleaning up the seams. Do as I post..... not as I do!

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Monday, November 10, 2008 4:58 PM
Oh just kidding! When do we get to see the yellowwing PBY? It sounds like a great subject. I'll be finishing my PHGB entry on, ummm, December 8th!
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Posted by namrednef on Monday, November 10, 2008 4:26 PM
 bondoman wrote:
 namrednef wrote:

.....but I haven't completed a build in a year now, so don't hold yer breath!Laugh [(-D]

Wasn't gonna bring that up... Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]

.....but you did....

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, November 10, 2008 4:23 PM
 namrednef wrote:

.....but I haven't completed a build in a year now, so don't hold yer breath!Laugh [(-D]

Wasn't gonna bring that up... Pirate [oX)]Make a Toast [#toast]
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Posted by namrednef on Monday, November 10, 2008 4:17 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
Bow [bow]Wow Nam? Bubble wrap bubbles? Never used those before.  I can't find anything that is much help for that version Bondo. I'll keep an eye out during my reading. Wow how is that Pearl Harbor PBY coming together? Got any pics? OOOH another hit! Ouch! I am sorry bout that Nammy....

Why must you torment me so? NOT bubble wrap, Dolt! Bubble packaging! You know? That stuff that keeps impulse items in the cardboard?

Okay....get off the benadril.....this PBY IS for the PHGB that I was committed to first.....Hallowe'en is next.....but I haven't completed a build in a year now, so don't hold yer breath!Laugh [(-D]

Camera is in the shop.....AS YOU KNOW!

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  • From: League City, Texas
Posted by sfcmac on Monday, November 10, 2008 1:52 PM
Bow [bow]Wow Nam? Bubble wrap bubbles? Never used those before.  I can't find anything that is much help for that version Bondo. I'll keep an eye out during my reading. Wow how is that Pearl Harbor PBY coming together? Got any pics? OOOH another hit! Ouch! I am sorry bout that Nammy....
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Posted by namrednef on Monday, November 10, 2008 9:44 AM

 

Hi.....spent my off-time this weekend doing window chores on the PBY....all Futured and looking great. In pics the windows will look great.....to the eye.....very thick.

Again....this PBY is for the Pearl Harbor GB......when I begin the PBY for this GB, I'm going to use clear plastic bits from bubble packages.

The fuse halves fit very well, but the panel lines are VERY delicate (shallow)...so I would recommend trimming and sanding all sprue points prior to joining the fuse. (Some of us don't)

Judicious sanding/filing is the key here!

But check those windows out before gluing!

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Posted by namrednef on Saturday, November 8, 2008 7:20 AM

 

Okay....I'm confused! I've re-read the thread, but.........

Who are building firebombers and who are building Black Cats? I got lost after the B-25 engine purchase!Laugh [(-D]

The fire bomber version was modified internally in order to hold up to 1,100 gallons of water. The water was picked up via a retractable probe located just aft of the hull step. The PBY would taxi on water at 70-75 knots and pick up 800 gallons in about 20 seconds.

Also, wingtip floats were deleted on firebombers

As far as the larger motors.....I have only Don Greer profiles to judge from.....but it appears that with the cowl aligned as you say, the top of the cowl was faired back to about halfway over the wing with exhaust pipe going straight back.

I have no clear pics of the tail section as to tail or stabilizer profiles, but I would go with the post-War look.

The nose.........my pics show the nose covered with a formed asymetrical hexagon bit of metal located from the hull edge back to where the former turret faired into the fuse.

HTH

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Friday, November 7, 2008 11:55 PM

 kg4kpg wrote:
Well, a choice has to me made.  I'm into this kit about 45 bucks now.  I'm already going to have to modify the tail a little but the civilian plane has a different nose.  I can try to scratch build it but I don't know if I really have the skill for it.  I have someone who has a spare resin nose but he want's 30 bucks.  Probably not a bad deal, just a lot to me.  What to do???Confused [%-)]
We're building the same aircraft!

Here's what I know, and I'm starting with the Academy 1/72 -5A.

RedRoo and Quickboost both sell/sold a nose deck, but the QB has a hatch at the front and the RR I can't find. Mine at 1/72 is kind of small so I'm going to scratch it up.

Engines: big deal. I bought a B-25H-J for not $$ for the cowlings with all the exhaust pipes, plus engine face and prop. Haven't looked into the right props but I've got bags of the things, so let me know if you have more info. Big issue is that the kit cowling measured over the cowl flaps is 48 ", while the replacement  R2600's are 58". If you look at pics it seems that the bottom of the cowl stayed aligned with the nacelle, but the top was raised by 10", meaning that the crankshaft center is about 5" higher. Major reshaping of the nacelles, esp. on top of the wing. Need ideas.

Vertical tail- SLAFCO seems to have come up with a one or two-off. I'll scratchbuild it as I cannot find a part. The horiz tail planes are probably bigger, but I cannot find info that sez so, so I don't care.

Decals are available from Draw in both scales. I plan to use Testors White and Ford Engine Red.

Water pickup I have no idea?

What do you know? I'd like to here any tips.

There's lots of pics on scalefirebombers.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X7wXiTvYzc

 

Bill

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, November 7, 2008 9:37 PM
This is honestly my My 2 cents [2c] the resin is setting there waiting to be used. You have to ask yourself if the $30 is going to save you the headache of having to try and scratch the nose. I have the 1/72 Dragon Black Widow and have spent well over $100 on it already with both Eduard PE sets and masks plus the cost of the kit.
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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  • From: Charleston, SC
Posted by kg4kpg on Friday, November 7, 2008 7:45 PM
Well, a choice has to me made.  I'm into this kit about 45 bucks now.  I'm already going to have to modify the tail a little but the civilian plane has a different nose.  I can try to scratch build it but I don't know if I really have the skill for it.  I have someone who has a spare resin nose but he want's 30 bucks.  Probably not a bad deal, just a lot to me.  What to do???Confused [%-)]
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, November 7, 2008 3:04 PM
 Great news!!!! pICS i NEED MY PIC FIX ON ALL i HAVE BEEN MISSING!
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Posted by namrednef on Friday, November 7, 2008 3:01 PM

 

Lt. Nam is back!

PC is all cleaned out, new CD ROM, quadrupled memory to over 1 Gig (free of charge!), new virus software. The thing was totally booted up in a few seconds....that's something I've never seen on this machine!

I've been working on all my WIPs....the Yellow Wing PBY for the PH GB is ready for the fuse halves to join! Nothing exceptional to note.....just be careful with the fiddly bits! Many of them in this kit! Spent a few hours searching the last few days.

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  • From: Dallas
Posted by KINGTHAD on Thursday, November 6, 2008 11:12 AM

Got started on mine over the weekend. Got the front office painted and washed up. I almost finished up the landing gear. Sorry no pictures at this time.

Thad

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Posted by namrednef on Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:17 AM

 

Putting the PC into the PC shop tomorrow......should be back on Friday.

Hang in!

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Posted by namrednef on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 4:50 PM

 

Yep....huge box....and worth every tree murdered!

I'll update the Homepage as to your kit!

Thanks!

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  • From: Charleston, SC
Posted by kg4kpg on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 1:01 PM
Okay, my Revell 1/48 PBY has landed safely.  Big dang box.  Probably get started after the New Year, other GB's to finish for now.
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Posted by RichardI on Monday, November 3, 2008 10:35 AM

Thanks for the help with the ugly EP's. I think that's sound advice - only fix them if you have to Big Smile [:D].

Rich Cool [8D]

On the bench: 1/48 Revell PBY Catalina 0A-10A. Next up: Moebius 1/24 Chariot from Lost in Space.

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Posted by namrednef on Monday, November 3, 2008 9:56 AM

 

Sorry Folks.........I've been unable to log-in since Saturday.....I know others have been having trouble likewise, but my PC is sick and going into the shop on Wednesday. I was able to lurk and did so.

Thanks for taking up the slack FrankieThumbs Up [tup]

My opinion about the EP marks (horrendously large!) is that they won't show thru the limited viewing space. As far as toning them down.....they can be filled easier than wiping them out. Either way it's a LOT of work.....and they really won't be seen without a Mag-Lite and strong eyes if all the planets are aligned correctly.

The Front Page is about to be updated.....spelling errors mostly.

 

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Posted by tlivancso on Monday, November 3, 2008 4:26 AM

Frank and John:

Glad you found the site useful, figured I'd share the wealth.

Cheers,

Thom

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IPMS Central Connecticut (President)

IPMS Northeast Military Modelers Association (Web Master)

Like Alice "I try to believe in three impossible things before breakfast"

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, November 2, 2008 8:56 PM

Just got off the horn with the BVD, he is having difficulty getting back to the ship from his weekend ashore!  Hope he is back by tomorrow eve. Thumbs Up [tup]

Thom- Excellent site, thanks for the link!  Will be using some of those for my build here. Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, November 2, 2008 1:41 PM
 RichardI wrote:

nam: a quick question if I may. Did you remove all of the ugly ejector pin marks inside the fuselage halves? I mean in the two areas covered by "glass". My kit has quite a few nasty (both concave and convex) pin marks in those areas. I don't think they'll be seen from the outside on the finished model, and I removed and fixed one that would have prevented one of the bulkheads from fitting properly. Should I fix them all, or can I be lazy? Whistling [:-^]

Thanks, Rich Cool [8D]

Rich,

I'd mock up as much as I could in those areas, then close up the fuselage and see what pin marks are visible, then fill those.  I wouldn't worry about the others.  Just my opinion, I could be wrong.  You're not being lazy, just very efficient.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by RichardI on Sunday, November 2, 2008 10:29 AM

nam: a quick question if I may. Did you remove all of the ugly ejector pin marks inside the fuselage halves? I mean in the two areas covered by "glass". My kit has quite a few nasty (both concave and convex) pin marks in those areas. I don't think they'll be seen from the outside on the finished model, and I removed and fixed one that would have prevented one of the bulkheads from fitting properly. Should I fix them all, or can I be lazy? Whistling [:-^]

Thanks, Rich Cool [8D]

On the bench: 1/48 Revell PBY Catalina 0A-10A. Next up: Moebius 1/24 Chariot from Lost in Space.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, November 1, 2008 11:32 PM
Great site, Thom.  Thank you!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Cheney, WA
Posted by FastasEF on Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:52 PM

Sad time in Spokane when this happened. I remember watching this plane put fires out on a hill not to far from where I grew up, flying over head multiple times while picking up water and droping it then doing it over again. Every once in a while you can drive up to Deer Park and see it parked up there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqPpYLp81-U

Josh

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Posted by tlivancso on Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:21 PM

Hello PBY Builders,

I an effort to help in the world of information sharing I have created a image gallery site full of PBY photos and drawings that have been graciously provided to me by a research friend of mine at the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola, Florida.

The link to the site is here and I hope everyone finds it of value, please let me know if something doesn't work right thanks in advance.

Oh and gentlemen no drooling as it holds over 1,100 images.

Happy veiwing all. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Cheers,

Thom

IPMS Member #42958 /  AMPS Member #2091

IPMS Central Connecticut (President)

IPMS Northeast Military Modelers Association (Web Master)

Like Alice "I try to believe in three impossible things before breakfast"

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:44 AM

 bondoman wrote:
See my PM Ritchie

Yes, I did see it.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, November 1, 2008 2:32 AM
See my PM Ritchie
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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, November 1, 2008 2:06 AM

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(Provided no one begins a Stringbag GB!)Make a Toast [#toast]

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Are you referring to me ???!!!!! LOL JKLaugh [(-D]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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  • From: North Carolina
Posted by WarHammer25 on Friday, October 31, 2008 8:45 PM

Those badges just look great with the Cat with the landing light on.

This just hit me, somebody should make a Halloween PBY with the whole wing painted like a Hershey's bar or something. It would be very festive.Tongue [:P]

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