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Guadalcanal Campaign Group Build updated with new end date

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 4, 2010 11:41 AM

Thanks for lookin', men.. I appreciate the kudos.. A couple of construction notes on this kit, since Revell has re-released it and y'all will now be racing to the LHS to get one for yourself, right?  Yah, Thought so...  

      I couldn't display the nose-gunbay open, since it and the nosegear-well is full of BBs.  (Guess that means that, technically speaking,  I actually ARMED this one, eh?)  I wish that I had just trapped a pin in the nosewheel instead, since it's going into a diorama.   That keeps folks (especially frakkin' contest judges that just HAVE to handle everything w/o permission from the builder) from pickin' it up...  Even if you don't build dios or display bases with terrain, I still recommend doing it for tricycle-geared aircraft, especially if you weather with pastels.  Besides preventing damage (like the model(s) moving around or worse, sliding off the base during transport), it keeps fingerprints off my pastel-work.  I don't clear-coat the pastels (They go on top of the final clear flat coat), since that will drastically (if not destroy) alter the colors.  I have yet to find a way to lock them down permanently, and it's not from lack of trying.  It's like playin' an upright piano in a marchin' band-- There's just no good way to do it...   

However, I digress...

      With the exception of the windscreen (normal for Monogram/Revell-Monogram kits, so quit whining and just DEAL with it), I didn't need any filler anywhere on this kit.  Careful sanding & constant test-fitting allowed the gunbay door and engine hatches to fit tight without any cement. I say test-fitting because you can take off more than you want in ONE swipe and ruin it...  I also shaved off the round tabs that allow the gunbay door to be removed easily...

     I did very little in the way of scratch-building or modifications to this kit.  It doesn't need many (although some Revellogram Poopoo-ers around here would disagree), and except maybe adding a seat harness, throttle quadrant, and a better gunsight (if the cockpit door is modeled open and/or the windows "down"),  it looks good in the cockpit as is,  IMNSHO.  Closed up for take-off/ landing or in-flight means a pilot and everything is hidden.***  In this case, I just painted the molded-on seat harness (GASP) & drybrushed the panel & gunsight.   They look fine from a normal viewing distance (about 12 inches for dioramas) even with the door open/windows down...    As always, After-market parts came from my usual AM vendor. "Von Hammer's Neighborhood Salvage Yard & Hobby Shop" supplied the piece of brass tube for the 37mm cannon muzzle, a wire fuel-line for the drop tank, and I also drilled-out the gun-troughs for the .50 cals...  

     Those that display their aircraft inverted or really care about wheel wells will want to cut the mounting points for the inner-main doors away, put in some strip styrene to close the hole left behind,  and then add some door-closing hardware, but as for the wells themselves they require little or no work.  There's some fine molded-on detail in there already and little can be added except perhaps some fine wire for tubing in a couple places.  The nose gear-well could stand a bit, but it's too narrow to bother with in my opinion...

      As I said earlier, the underside of mine isn't gonna be viewable, so I skipped adding the "U.S. ARMY" decal since I'm not sure that was always applied to USAAF P-400s that still had their export camouflage paint schemes, and I've no photo-evidence of it being done across the board.  The nosegear retraction strut could benefit from some rework into a two-piece retracting arm & cylinder (like the Eduard 'Cobra has) but only if it's going to be flipped over & examined (or you just HAVE to do it)... I'd also open the brass & link ejector-chutes...

Lastly, I gotta say again that it's one of the best-fitting kits I've ever built (I've built this kit several times since 1969, when it was first released)...  Price? A spendy (for a 10-year old making .50 cents a week in allowance and $1.50 per lawn)  $1.79...   (I remember it well because it was the first 1/48th-scale kit I bought with my OWN money, heh...) My normal purchases were the HAWK and Monogram 1/72-scale aircraft kits that ran .39 cents apiece...  *Sigh*...

I didn't mean for this post to turn into a novel, but I got a new medication and it's REALLY fun...  I'll shutup for now though...

 

***IF you model a P-39-series A/C in-flight, the windows must be closed.  Open windows cause a buffeting problem at all airspeeds and also could result in one or both doors being blown off above 200 knots. 

 

Note to Stik:  Hey, I might need an extension of a few days on this thing since I added the diorama... I gotta make a couple coconut palms to give it the "Jungle"look...  The 'Cobra will be complete sometime today or tomorrow (truthfully, Monday next)...  That doable?

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Posted by Mobious on Thursday, February 4, 2010 2:58 PM

Nicely done HvH. The P400 build looks like alot of fun with great results.Yes  Looking forward to seeing the dio and the palm trees.

Mobious

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:21 PM

Hans, as of now I am gonna have the end date at the end of this month rather than the official date the 'Canal was declared secure. Seeing as how I have been in the model building doldrums lately and just cant knuckle down to finish my Yugumo.

Thanks for all the tips on building this kit. I think I am like you and have built it multiple times as well since it was first issued. (always in that Hell's Bells Th scheme of course) I have two more in the stash, one a Pro Modeler issue and another the basic kit. I want to do George Welsh's 'Cobra for one and an Operation Torch bird for the other. It is always good to hear of another way to tackle this classic to dress it up.

One suggestion I can add for anyone else building this kit is hollowing out between the gunsite support arms and putting a piece of clear acetate or sheet plastic there for the reflector glass as an inexpensive dress up.

 

 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:22 PM

 Hey Stikpusher, cool tip on the acetate as a gunsight. I was considering joining in on the fun with the Has SBD-4 in VSMB-233 colors but I doubt I could finish it before the end of the month. That would be abit confined in my time-space continuum.

 Mobious

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:25 PM

hollowing out between the gunsite support arms and putting a piece of clear acetate or sheet plastic there for the reflector glass

That tip bears repeating... Especially since I did it the hard way with sprue, a vise, and a piece of acetate.....

Wish you'd spoken up earlier, Stik..Bang Head

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:27 PM

Mobious

 Hey Stikpusher, cool tip on the acetate as a gunsight. I was considering joining in on the fun with the Has SBD-4 in VSMB-233 colors but I doubt I could finish it before the end of the month. That would be abit confined in my time-space continuum.

 Mobious

There IS that " Bombers In Your Stash" build starting 1 March.. It's open-ended..

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, February 6, 2010 8:11 PM

Mobius, how much time do you thing you will need to complete your SBD?

And how many more folks here are still working away on their projects? Please sound off on who is still here and may need more time...Whistling

As for me, I got all the little fiddly bits cleaned up for painting so that can get finished up and then I can get all of them attached so I can get my Yugumo completed by end of the month.Black Eye

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, February 6, 2010 8:37 PM

Good thing you are a slow worker because I keep forgetting to mail your decals for your next project.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, February 7, 2010 1:33 PM

Yes, my modeling speeds are like the throttle on the old lawn mower we used to have: idle and full bore....Wink No rush on those decals my friend- I will not be starting that kit for a few months here yet. Just glad to hear that you have not forgotten about them completely.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by satch_ip on Monday, February 8, 2010 9:01 AM

I just finished this book on the commute home from NY.  I highly recommend it, especially for those in this group build.  Hans after reading this book I tip my hat to you and your uncle.  He was a truly remarkable man as were all the members of the Cactus Air Force.  You are lucky to have known him.

Satch

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, February 8, 2010 3:41 PM

I'm still here, in fact I'm done except for a finished base. I'll post some pics on the "shop" base. Wonderful 'cobra, HVH. One benefit of this GB was I did a lot of reading about the various naval battles from August through November 1942. It's a frightening thing, but our line "battleships" at that time in the Pacific were the New Orleans class 8" cruisers, and they paid a terrible price.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, February 12, 2010 8:21 PM

TY, Bondo..

Here it is on the diorama base...

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, February 12, 2010 9:42 PM

Hans Man thats a nice build the dio really adds a whole new dimention to the Cobra ! Now I am gonna have to try painting figures which I have never done, then maybe a dio. You are a bad influiance on some of us Hans. Toast

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:32 AM

Well, that's just a "test-fit" of the dio base rather than the diorama itself... The actual layout is still a mystery to me as to wht's going to be happening on it... I'm in "foliage phrase" right now to try and give it a tropical look..

Now I am gonna have to try painting figures which I have never done

Pop that cherry, V-man... Frankly, the way I do it is much simpler than what the figures godz do and it works out pretty well...

You are a bad influiance on some of us Hans.

 I get that a lot...

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:31 PM

Hans, beautifully done! ToastI like your semi final results here.Yes One of these days I need to tackle a dio like that myself.Whistling Are you gonna put your 'cobra in a shaded dispersal area?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:51 AM

I plan on a few palm trees if that's what yer skin' Stik...  I'm going to put them int the corners to kind of frame the azz-end of the P-39, similar to where Shep Pine put his on the Black Widow diorama..

     I had thought about depicting the day my uncle was flying the "Bloody Ridge" sorties and trying to depict the frantic "turn & burn" that was prevailent that day, but I couldn't really get the effect since I really have no idea what it looked like... I have the running aircrewman figure from the Monogram TBF, but he's just not "right".  He's got a Navy flight helmet on for one, and sleeves down as well... Although it'd be a tiny detail, it takes away from the "tropical sweat-box" feel of the 'Canal.  He's also a bit small when compared to the other figures I'd want to use.  Also, I don't want to lose the drop tank.  I like the plumbing I did...

     I have those ammo boxes and some belted .50 cal though, and plenty of fuel drums and jerrycans.. Doing a lazy arming and hand-pump refuel is probably what I'll end up with...

 

 

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Posted by satch_ip on Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:16 AM

Hans, there is a passage in the book I told you about that stated that #13 had a name painted on the side.  They called it The Resurrection because it was one of the original P-400s on the Canal and survived many bombings and shelllings and had parts from several different aircraft. 

Revel/Monogram's markings on their P-400 have #13 has Hell's Bells.  That plane was one of the originals too, assigned to Robert M. Ferguson.  I don't have a picture of the tail with the number so I can't be sure who is right.  Do you have any other references?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:39 AM

I have none specific to the 67th... I have no idea what John's plane numbers were, or if it had a name,  so that's why I used the stock decals... I left off the Hell's Bells though.. Always thought that was a cheesy name anyway and wouldn't be a bit surprised if it's spurious and came to life in Monogram's shop in '65...

 

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Posted by gspatton44 on Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:04 AM

I'm still here and shooting for completion by the deadline. Here are some pics of my topside paint job. I was trying for a layered effect using a slightly darker shade of the base coat to do the panel lines then painting the top with the base shade overall and finally accenting the center of panels with a lighter shade of the base coat for a fading effect. You guys can let me know how I did. First the panel line shading

I thought I had a pic of the second phase but I could not find it on any of my cameras so I guess I got ahead of myself oh well..... Any way here are two shots of the finished product

From the front

And the rear

Overall I am happy with how it turned out being my first time trying this technique. I do think the faded shading is a little bit much and will try to tone it down a bit on future builds.

Next I need to get the canopies painted and the landing gear done. I should be able to be complete by the end date. Thanks for looking!

"When I want it to stick, I give it to 'em dirty"

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Posted by satch_ip on Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:45 PM

Hans von Hammer

I have none specific to the 67th... I have no idea what John's plane numbers were, or if it had a name,  so that's why I used the stock decals... I left off the Hell's Bells though.. Always thought that was a cheesy name anyway and wouldn't be a bit surprised if it's spurious and came to life in Monogram's shop in '65...

 

Actually Hell's Bell was Lt Robert M. Ferguson's assigned aircraft and appears in several photos.  None that I've found however, have the tail numbers or British reg number.

Ferguson's book (Robert L. Ferguson) identifies the men in this photo.  I'm currently in NY not at home so I don't have it with me.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:18 PM

satch_ip

 Hans von Hammer:

I have none specific to the 67th... I have no idea what John's plane numbers were, or if it had a name,  so that's why I used the stock decals... I left off the Hell's Bells though.. Always thought that was a cheesy name anyway and wouldn't be a bit surprised if it's spurious and came to life in Monogram's shop in '65...

 

 

Actually Hell's Bell was Lt Robert M. Ferguson's assigned aircraft and appears in several photos.  None that I've found however, have the tail numbers or British reg number.

 

Ah, I stand corrected...  I mis-read what you said about Ferguson's aircraft and was thinking The Resurection was his... I see where I screwed up now.. Must been the combo of Percocet and staying up all night working on yet ANOTHER Monogram dual-build (P-47D "The Turtle" in case yer wondering)...

This's one of the reason's I don't often build an actual, historic aircraft. Although I'll do an actual fighter or bomb group's paint scheme and codes, I use totally spurious squadron markings, serial numbers, and aircraft numbers & codes. Along with fictious pilot-names, I'll do my own nose-art instead.   Cuts down on a lot of arguing and the Vargas Girls" were used in all theaters of operations...  I even use Betty Page now & again, although she wasn't around in WW2... She's just too good to pass up when the right diorama idea jumps up at me.. (Y'all can Google-Image her.. I'd get in trouble posting most any of her images in here, lol..)  There's a gal I do business with that makes sheets of 1/48th & 1/32-35th dames...I got enough of the gals to last for a couple dozen aircraft builds now... She even made one for the door of my car, lol... Can't use it though, the gal's wearin' (part of) a sailor-suit...

Anyhow, I've prattled on anough for now...

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, February 15, 2010 6:45 PM

GSP, glad to see you are still with us and chugging along to your completion. Your Kate is coming along quite well. I do like the look of those planes, with those large wings giving it sinister appearance like a vulture in flight.

 

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Posted by gspatton44 on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:20 AM

Yes it does have a very large wing. It was probably needed to create enough lift to host the torp up in the air. I have always tought that the kate had some very elegant lines and your right in saying that it looked very ominious especially when veiwed from the front as it was by so many americam sailors during the war.

I got the undercarriage started over the weekend and am mulling over/trying to figure out if it is worth it to paint the hinomarus or just use the decals. I will probalby settle for using the decals but we will see.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:12 PM

I am looking forward to seeing whats next.Yes

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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more good Guadalcanal info
Posted by satch_ip on Friday, February 19, 2010 6:30 AM

I found this monograph while researching the 67th FS for this group build.  Thought I would share it.

 

http://www.nettally.com/jrube/text/airwar.txt

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:48 PM

satch_ip

I found this monograph while researching the 67th FS for this group build.  Thought I would share it.

 

http://www.nettally.com/jrube/text/airwar.txt

Satch_ip thanks for posting this link, it was a long read but well worth it. Never ceases to amaze me what the history books in school say verses what really happened.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:53 AM

Satch, thanks for that link!  I've since printed it out and added it to my library of research material...

 

BTW:    I'm calling the P-39 done since nothing remains but adding the correct numbers and I have no refs for them... Anyhow,  my finances preclude ordering any letters & numbers sets until late next month or possibly April (Fixed income & a modeling budget ya know... I "advanced" myself too much cash this month to get some Ebay kits I HAD to have.  The "Birthday kit-money" from Household 6 and "Li'l Girl" have yet to materialize in my PayPal account).  The diorama is going to be blogged for the Diorama Forum for those of you that want to follow it... 

Lemme know when I can add the badge, Stikpusher...

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:14 PM

Claim and display your badge anytime Hans. Very well done my friend!Toast

 

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CA38 finished
Posted by bondoman on Friday, February 26, 2010 12:37 PM

Here comes the USS San Francisco, CA38 New Orleans class heavy cruiser as she appeared in November 1942 at Guadalcanal.

The Trumpeter 1/350 kit; the only game in town at that scale.






Text Part 1:

Here are  the details I thought would improve the model.

On the hull I shaved off the prop guards and the hawse hole collars. Replaced the collars with a dollop of white glue. Did not replace the guards, maybe one day. Filled all the portholes from the base of #1 forward- wartime shots show them closed and it looks nice.
On the main deck I carved off the chains- maybe not worth the trouble as their replacements are just mediocre. Replaced the 1.1 guns at the stern with L’arsenal resin bits. The lifelines are one of my favorite parts of the model. A careful look at photos shows that, like most warship main decks, they are a system of folding stanchions that get rigged with line when set up. So I took TMW (Tom’s Modelworks)  PE pipe rails and painted them Gull Gray, then painted the bottom bar hull blue to replicate the flange along the edge of the deck. Then, I took a # 11 and using it like a fountain pen, lined the verticals blue as well.
Main battery was left as is, except that the seals around the 8” barrels were a mess. A combination of sink marks on the sides and sprue attachment points in lousy locations. After scraping them a little, I built up three or four layers of white glue, in a folded kind of look. I popped the turrets on with white glue, as I may replace the barrels one day with turned brass.
I added PE ladders to the right side of each turret.
The 5”guns are also L’arsenal resin, and I like them very much, a real improvement over the kit ones. All the little PE seats, parts and pieces were somewhat beyond my abilities, but they build up well.

Text Part 2:

The aircraft crane booms, catapults, ladders Mk. gun director and SC radar arrays are all TMW PE.
I used the kit 20mm’s but they could be improved or replaced.
The searchlight tower was scratchbuilt. I used the platform but cut off the solid rails that are meant to replicate canvas dodgers, and replaced with open rail. The kit tower is really poorly looking, as are the catapults.
On the catapult towers, I used a saw to open the panoramic operators view window and framed it with scrap PE. This really improved the look.
I added ladders to the front of the stacks and scratched up a little platform for the siren and whistle at the forward stack.
The whip antennas are paintbrush bristles that have a nice taper on the ends. I rigged the stack guys with 270 denier mono, which looks so-so. Then I rigged the masts with 20 denier mono that is much better looking. Did insulators with CA mixed with black paint.
I replaced all of the struts on the Seagulls with PE or just bits of wire. Built up little gearbox covers with sanded sprue and replaced the props with PE.
The whole was painted, mostly before assembly, in Measure 21. I used WEM (White Ensign Models) paints for Navy Blue and Deck Blue, which are almost the same color. The lower hull is Tamiya Hull red. I cannot successfully airbrush Tamiya acrylics, so I brushpainted the color. The props are Testors “Brass. “
No weathering except that the decks were washed with superdiluted black enamel in thinner.
Future for the decals, followed by a good coat of Dulcote. Then I filled all the bridge glass with Krystal Klear.
A piece of oak from the scrap bin at the lumberyard, with a routered detail around the top, clear acrylic coat, some brass standards and we are set to sail for Guadalcanal.
I hope you like her. It’s by far the best ship model kit I have ever built. The Treaty Cruisers are a beautiful era of design.
Here are my main resources:
http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/CA38/GuadalcanalDamageRpt.html
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=37034&start=135
http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/038/04038.htm

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, February 26, 2010 2:24 PM

Yes Gorgeous work there my friend! She looks superb! And thank you for adding all the information about what you did to get your kit looking as you did. Your efforts really shine here. Thank you for sharing and taking part in the GB. Take your badge anytime.Toast

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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