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War In The Pacific Group Build 2009 - 2010

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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:17 PM

Mucker, the Tamiya metalics aren't as fine as the Gunze ones, but then they have proved tougher.

When I've used the Gunze ones before, I've not had to mask over the top of them, which probab;y why I've not had the lifting issues before.

Jay, I'll just strip the Tojo back and start again with Tamiya metalics.

So no loss.

Karl

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Posted by mucker on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:26 PM
 KJ200 wrote:

Mucker, the Tamiya metalics aren't as fine as the Gunze ones, but then they have proved tougher.

When I've used the Gunze ones before, I've not had to mask over the top of them, which probab;y why I've not had the lifting issues before. 

I can't argue with that, Karl. Tamiya acrylics (and gunze acrylics) are my favorite to spray. They are definately durable. For fun, I ordered a few colors from the company called Agama out of the Czech Republic. From the little I could find on them they supposedly spray and handle like Gunze acrylics. the knock is that they are too flat and require a bit of gloss before decaling.

Time will tell...

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Posted by carsanab on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:23 PM

Karl....My first shot at NMF i used MM Metliziers and really liked the finish and look of the "metal" the ability to buff them to different tones I liked and after a hit with the sealer i had no problems with masking or handling.

Good luck!!!

 Carlos

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:22 AM
Karl hope the NMF gets sorted soon, looking forward to more pics!!! The last two NMFs I have done came out great!!! Because thats EXACTLLY what they were, natural METAL finish!!! Cheapest kitchen foil you can get, home made brew adhesive!! But you had better not have any hint of seams or specks of dust!!! Guess thats true whether you paint or foil!!!
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:58 PM

Hi all, i was having an 'inbetween' build from a Reggy aero build. I posted a pic of my finished cocpit for a Tamiya Kyofu. Richie suggested i come over here and join in with this GB. If youll have me, id love to. I have finised the pit and have the fuz together. If im too far into the build id understand.

Ive seen some great work in this GB, but dont let my sucking up sway you. LOL.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by razordws on Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:49 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Hi all, i was having an 'inbetween' build from a Reggy aero build. I posted a pic of my finished cocpit for a Tamiya Kyofu. Richie suggested i come over here and join in with this GB. If youll have me, id love to. I have finised the pit and have the fuz together. If im too far into the build id understand.

Ive seen some great work in this GB, but dont let my sucking up sway you. LOL.

...Guy

DANG!!!  Who left the door open?  Ritchie...    Wink [;)]

Dave

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Posted by mucker on Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:52 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Hi all, i was having an 'inbetween' build from a Reggy aero build. I posted a pic of my finished cocpit for a Tamiya Kyofu. Richie suggested i come over here and join in with this GB. If youll have me, id love to. I have finised the pit and have the fuz together. If im too far into the build id understand.

Ive seen some great work in this GB, but dont let my sucking up sway you. LOL.

...Guy

Guy!!! Excellent! Just don't be bringing any of that eye-talian stuff over here! Wink [;)]

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Posted by carsanab on Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:32 PM

Hey Guy...Took a look at your Rex pics.....looks great...bring that "floatie" over where it belongs!! Theres a great looking Pete and Kingfisher coming down the pipe and I just finished a Seiran..

 Welcome!!Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

Carlos

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 28, 2009 3:47 AM

I saw the Seiran, simply gorgeous. When i was thinking about starting the RA GB, it was a toss up between Italian and Jap subjects. The both look so cool.

Well heres where i am so far. My plan for this plane is to have a really really worn plane. The sort of thing youd find floating on a lagoon somewhere, late 45,

Ta daaaa, give me half an hour and ill post he pics of the floats and fuzz.

...Guy

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 28, 2009 4:53 AM

As promised, heres the rest of where im at. In the 1st pic you can see that ive tried rivetting the main float. Not sure yet but i may rivet the whole airframe. Im using a ponce wheel and am not really sure i like the results. LOL, Oh and the seam between the struts and the main upright has since been eliminated,

...Guy

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, August 28, 2009 6:09 AM
Guy-great work on the cockpit.  Looking forward to more progress pics and welcome aboard.

Bob

 

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Posted by mucker on Friday, August 28, 2009 8:21 AM
Top work so far, guy. I need to find a rivetter as well. With all of them I sand off, it would save me a lot of time in the recovery process.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, August 28, 2009 8:50 AM
Guy!! Sign - Welcome [#welcome]aboard mate!!! Glad you made it over!!! She's really looking good!!! Can't wait to see more!!Make a Toast [#toast]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jay12472 on Friday, August 28, 2009 10:33 AM

Guy welcome  The pit looks great and I really like the riviting

Jason

 

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:40 AM

Hi guys, Thx for the kind welcomes. Ive been at it today (On holiday) and im really surprised at how much ive managed to get done. The fuzz is together with the pit and the wings. Ive started painting the main float.

Ill get a few pics up a bit later.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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  • From: Second City
Posted by arki30 on Friday, August 28, 2009 12:24 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

...The fuzz is together with the pit and the wings....

The fuzz?  Why are you putting fuzz into your build? That would be rather messy. Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]

If you're trying to shorten fuselage, then I think you mean to write fuse or fuze.  Fuzz is something you find in your navel. Whistling [:-^]

Nice looking cockpit. Thumbs Up [tup]

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 28, 2009 12:41 PM
 arki30 wrote:

If you're trying to shorten fuselage,......

Now why would i want to shorten the fuselage? Surely the flight characteristics would be well up the creek Wink [;)]

Sorry about the fuzz thingy, that comes from my years in the RC game. For some reason we called the fuselage the fuzz, and it kinda stuck LOL. As for navel fluff, why the hell is it always blue?....and where the hell does it come from?

...Guy

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Posted by mucker on Friday, August 28, 2009 1:15 PM
 arki30 wrote:
 Luftwoller wrote:

...The fuzz is together with the pit and the wings....

 Fuzz is something you find in your navel. Whistling [:-^]

Ah...unless you have an "outie" (not an Audi).

Blue? It must be a UK thing. I thought naval lint is supposed to be green?

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 28, 2009 2:38 PM

As promised, heres some pics, this sucker has a fair old dihedral on it. I checked, its not down to my naff maodelling LOL,

as i thought that the build was going too easily, i decided to hack the elevators up,

i also thought id hack off the rudder as well. This might be a little more tricky than the elevators,

I dont know if anyone has done one of these before but i was shocked by the thinness of the glasswork. Its so thin, it totally negates the need for a vacformed canopy. Here is the sliding portion compared to an older Tamiya FW190 canopy,

Finally, heres a pic of the main float with the undercoat of Alclad's Airframe alluminium. Next i spray the alclad with Tamiya clear, then the top coat of green. Then i scrape of a few scratches here and there.

...Guy

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Posted by jay12472 on Friday, August 28, 2009 2:53 PM

Guy that is coming along very nice! I was wondering how did you separate the elevators so perfectly? They look like totally separate pieces

Jason

 

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Posted by mucker on Friday, August 28, 2009 3:28 PM

Guy:

I wanted to share a picture of my Fuzz with you, too.

 

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Posted by jay12472 on Friday, August 28, 2009 3:46 PM

Laugh [(-D]

Jason

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, August 28, 2009 5:59 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:
As for navel fluff, why the hell is it always blue?....and where the hell does it come from?

...Guy

One of the great mysteries of the world.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:53 AM
Guy, can't wait to see more!! That is looking great!!!Thumbs Up [tup] Chipped paint and weathered!!! Looking forward to more pics!!!
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:42 AM
Excellent work Guy!  I am always amazed by the speed and quality of your work. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:19 AM
 Wow, Guy, the elevators look great. Nice work removing them. The canopy does look nice and thin.  Very nice. Looking forward to seeing more progress on this one.

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:22 AM

Well got a lil bit done on the Jake today. I've had the floats together for a few days on to a week or more and have been filling and sanding. Also drilled holes for the rigging. Got the right float on and rigged. Didn't need a second fill and sand. I am adding the upper wing halves after this step which may seem a bit backward in thinking, but I am using knitting -in elastic for the rigging and need to pull it taught before adding upper halves. Read a review on this kit and was prepared for the prominent gap on the aft edge of the underside. did a test fit before adding float and am confident that with careful handling will be able to tackle the gaps. My main concern was having dead straight rigging. yes there is a kink in the rigging on the rt side of the float, that was just caused by the glue making the elastic stiff. Straight now, just didn't feel like takin another pic till later today. It's 2:20am and will soon be hitting the hay. Anyway here's a couple pics fer ya! Night all!Zzz [zzz]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:43 AM
 jay12472 wrote:

Guy that is coming along very nice! I was wondering how did you separate the elevators so perfectly? They look like totally separate pieces

Jason

Hi Jason, I have found the perfect thing for separating elevators and such. Its also the best scribing tool in my inventory. Its from the Bare metal foil co and its great. Id recommend it to anyone,

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400053306645

Great work on the Jake? I dont know what one of those will look like so im off to google one. Im loving these Jap floaters.

...Guy

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:51 AM
Thanks Guy!!! Yeah, I like these Japanese floaters too!! I like the way the Jake looks myself, and from what I've read it was the fave among the pilots as well.
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jay12472 on Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:04 PM

Guy thank you may have to pick that up

Richie the float looks great. What exactly is the rigging?

Jason

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