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Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:39 AM
oh a tip on posting you pics. just right-click on the picture and click on properties. you'll see a line that says URL, and it has an address there. just copy that address and paste it between the tags.

you had it linked like this

http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/rongeorge.com/albums/upload/IMGP0180.jpg

you shouldd have had it like this

http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/IMGP0180.sized.jpg
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:43 AM
yippee!
Chris 2 the rescue again !
thanx 4 the linx, & 4 ur kind words...
i kinda think i went a little over the top on the interior, but it's been fun 2 do .
i'd better remember not 2 glue the hull halves together so folks can check it out
when i'm done building !
LOL !
thanx 2 M1AbramsRules for the post & RonUSMC for the host !

frostySmile [:)]
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  • From: Kent, England
Posted by nmayhew on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:30 AM
lookin' good frosty!!Smile [:)]
Kind regards, Nicholas
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:42 AM
Frosty,

Coming a long NICELY!

Ron

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:43 AM
Is there any type of glue that will stick to the vinyl tracks. I'm trying to 'tack' them into position against the wheels, etc, but they keep braking loose? Using CA glue... but it's not cutting it...

Murray
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:54 AM
my super glue (loctite 454) works with vinyl tracks.
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  • From: USA
Posted by Awasoda on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:45 PM
Although I am not part of the group build i am building a sherman. I have noticed in various pictures there is a lether like pad on the inside of the hatch. Was this for all shermans and if so how would i go about doin it. I was thinking of some sheet styrene (sp?0 but i wasnt sure the exact shape. Thanks in advance.
IF you can't beat them then they are not tied down properly
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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:44 PM
Frosty - lookin' great !!!!!!

Murray - I've always used CA, how old is your bottle?

Awasoda - depends on which type of hatch you are using as to whether it had a pad or not. Sheet styrene is probably the easiest way to build one though.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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  • From: USA
Posted by Awasoda on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:55 PM
Thanks,
The hatch that is open is the late style comander's coupala(sp?) which would be the one that had only one hatch. Thanks agian.
IF you can't beat them then they are not tied down properly
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  • From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike
Posted by RAF120 on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:12 PM
Frosty your scratch built interior looks awesome.Thumbs Up [tup]
Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
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  • From: Newport News VA
Posted by Buddho on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:40 PM
Nice work Frosty!

Regards, Dan

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  • From: Philippines
Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:25 PM
Remarkable job, Frosty.

2 thumbs up!

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  • From: savannah ga.
Posted by GA.modelmaker on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:45 PM
up date on the sherman m4a4 with 60lp rockets. well its finished. no weathering or wash at all on this one it looks to good to dirty. sherman you will have my 2 essays on the m7 priest and the m4a4 i hope by friday.but as for pics of them i want have a camera probally after the end date on the group build, my niece has till monday night to find it or she will have to replace it. she is with her dad this weekend so if she dont bring it home from her vist with him its gonna be a hard lesson for her. but this has been fun to take part in on the sherman group build. and all the other shermans are looking great.Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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  • From: Exit 7a NJ Turnpike
Posted by RAF120 on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:05 PM
Well I'm finished and the pictures are taken. I've sent some off to Robert and I put some other ones over in Dioramas to share with other that may not read this thread. Sorry to make you go over there and look but I though you would understand.
Trevor Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:23 PM
I'll try some different CA on the tracks. I do happen to have some loctite (as Chris mentioned), so I'll maybe try that. The glue I'm using is likely a couple of years old, so perhaps it's time to put it out to pasture...

Thanks for the input

Murray
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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:27 PM
Awasoda - no pad on that style of hatch

Ga.modler - I'll wait for the pics to get your write-ups if you would please. Send them at the same time.

Trevor - caught a glimpse in the dio forum of your Sherman .... FANTASTIC !!!!

I'll upload them to the site ASAP

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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  • From: Denton, TX
Posted by gnsnow on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:22 PM
How were the spare track links on the glacis plate attached?

Thanks in advance - Gary

"Artists who seek perfection in everything are those who can attain it in nothing."
   - Eugène Delacroix

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:15 PM
I have the same question as Gary ...on some kits they look like they are just there... on the Italeri Marines M4 they have what looks like a wood frame. Can they be surface mounted without visible means of attachment?
John
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:01 PM
Here's a few of the final pics of my build (expect to see some better pics in the next few days. I'm not very happy with how these turned out...) I've sent a bit of a write-up to Sherm for his web-site...




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Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:24 PM
looks good murray. nice subtle weathering all over. just curious, but you must take quite a few pics. I see you did all the pics for SMAS newsletter and I know you have quite a few of the dief center.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:55 PM
Thanks Chris. The pics thing is just a coincidence. I did take quite a few at the dief center, and the editor used a few in the newsletter (just on the cover). Other pics in there were taken by the editor. I do take lots of pics, but most of them are of my 18 month old son!!

I'll get some better ones of the Sherman later this week. I was pressed for time tonight and didn't get the lighting set up correct.

Murray
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  • From: Sunny Florida
Posted by renarts on Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:21 AM
Frosty, Murray, great looking work. You guys rock. Both are top notch builds.

Sadly...Saturday I leave to work an event in Mississippi. The upside is that I will be able to put on my medieval armor and fight for a week when I'm not selling. (I'll be thinking of you Ron...) The down side is that my Sherman is done except for the indys, which are almost done but won't be finished for the 15th. Arggh! I won't be back till the 23rd.

I hate indys.

Mike
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:39 AM
Murray - Nice build ..... you've made this 1/72 beast look very good. Recieved your pics and write-up, I'll update the site tomorrow.

Mike - have fun !!!! Look forward to hearing from you when you get back.
Don''t forget to buy me something !!!
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by shermanfreak on Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:44 AM
Gary & John - Depends a little on if they are truly spare tracks or add on "armour".

Spares were mounted in frames or racks so that they could be removed and used. Some were mounted on the glacis and others on the rear plate of the upper hull.
Add on Armour (tracks) were welded in place on the glacis, side plates, and around the turret. Sometimes the guide teeth were welded directly to the plate, and in other cases a metal bracket of some form or another was used to hold them in place.

John - lots of time, don't get in a rush. The 15th is a "recommended" deadline, not written in stone.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:56 AM
Murray, Looks Great!

Mike, Have a great time! I'm finishing up the mitten gauntlets now, have one almost all riveted together, then I have to sew in the gloves.

Finished putting in the exhaust and air intake systems on my kit's engine last night. Getting down to the little bits and pieces! Almost time to get into markings and finish weathering.

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:08 AM
hiya, folks !
thanx 2 u 4 checking out my project 4 this build, & 4 all the positive responses!.
it's keeping my motivation level high... Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
i was looking at the turret, & thinking it should b a bit smaller than it came out.
got 2 decide if i'm going 2 redo it; i'm not super precise with the scale measurements, but i want it 2 look rite.
of course, with a coat of OD, it'll look smaller anyway...
but i want the hatch & opening in the turret 2 look proportional in top view.
as usual, i'm finding something 2 obsess about...
LOL !

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:17 AM
Well Gang my Shermie is done. It turned out great. Thanks to this build I tried alot of things that normally I woudn't have. Thanks to all of you that gave me advice and encouragement. Robert I will be emailing you the Pics along with the Brief description of the build If you need any thing else Email me.
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:21 AM
hey, I will be purchasing a digital camera this afternoon, so I will get some better pics of the m10. (wth field telly)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:33 AM
Murray:
that M4 is just fantastic... a really nice job on it !
i especially love the texture (glue stippling?) on the turret & upper hull...
it's that ESCI / Italeri 1/72 m4 kit if i remember rite...
and if those r ur bad photos, i can't wait 2 see the good ones !

Mike:
sorry 2 hear about ur battle w/ the indy trax, but amused by ur description.
methinks that once thou hast taken up broadsword & hacked off a limb or two,
(or at least pretendeth), better thou shalt feel !
have at them, & no quarter ! Wink [;)]
as far as finishing on time, i think i'll b in the tardy crew as well !
and thanx 4 liking my build... i was inspired 2 work on the interior details
by the interiors built by u and Ron Poniatowski.
in this case imitation is indeed sincere admiration & not just flattery !
have fun in Mississippi !

frostySmile [:)]
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  • From: Upstate NY
Posted by Build22 on Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:36 AM

Murray looks great !Thumbs Up [tup]



I have finished - all except the antenae ( close enough for me)Approve [^]Banged Head [banghead]Wink [;)]Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]


First want to say I was glad to be a part of the "Great Sherman Family Build" I learned alot and enjoyed sharing info with all you guys.


Then thanks to Sherm for baby sitting us in our adventures in "Shermocology"





Here it is - Sherman Vc Firefly - kitbashed from an MP M4A4 hull







I will put it in the armor forum as well


Jim [IMG]
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