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ME-262: Reich Defender II 10/09-7/10

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 5:50 AM
 sfcmac wrote:

 Hey if anyone sees Frank will you please tell him I am looking for him. Thanks and hugs to all!

FRANK!!!!!

LOL, More like,....'Dee, wheres my modelling knife?'

Great work though, Sarge. I cant believe your going so quick on this one. The cockpit looks spot on. The 4 gun nose is looking great too. Just imagine being on the recieving end of those suckers.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 5:35 AM

Geez Rudratt, that man cave of yours looks stunning. Im loving the paintbooth fitted to the wall. Im soo jealous. My man pit starts off all lovely neat and shiney...i open the box of the 'next in line', turn around and theres mayhem and debris a go go. I dont know about the rest of you but, i start with a lovely clean bench with loads of space and come the end, im working in a space thats about 3"x 3" 

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by ruddratt on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 4:26 AM

Thanks SC! Thumbs Up [tup]. It's gonna be nice to work in a scale other than 1:1 and not have to pull out the power tools.

....and 'hey' back atcha, Aaron!! Guess what? I'm looking for Frank too! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Hey Frank!! Now I know what happens when you haven't sat at a hobby bench for months on end. I took a look at the Academy kit I planned on doing here, and it seems I'm a lot further along on the build than I previously thought - far enough that to me it defeats the spirit of the GB. On the bright side though, I still have a long way to go on the 1/32 Trumpeter Me262A-1a (only the 'pit and one engine are complete), so with your permission, I'd like to change my entry to the big guy if I may. Many thanks, buddy! Thumbs Up [tup]

(...and I now know I need arms on this chair. Fell off three times from laughing when I was trying to play catch-up on this thread!!)

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 3:19 AM

 Hey Is Frank in here!  FRANKKKKK!!!!!

Oh Hi Steve and Mike and SC!  was just looking for Frank.  I couldn't remember which pill to take tonight so I tried one of each. 

Frank!!!!!!!!! ( screaming in my Jack Nicholson voice from the Shining!)Evil [}:)]Big Smile [:D]

 Some in progress picks because I was inspired!!!!!!

Completed and touched up the fuselage Subassemblys and added some details. Circut breaker boxes were missing and I added them and some wires over the molded on ones in the gun bay. Jazzef them up with some gun looking paintwork and drilled out the muzzles.

Thumbs Up [tup]

Added some colors and paint details to the IP. No decal and it was kinda bleak like an old revell kit but  hey a little love goes a long ways.

Once the paint is good N dry I'll burnish some # 2 pencil lead on the black barrels and greenish gray chutes to give a good metal look to it. Propeller [8-]

The Fuse halfs like luftwaller said are very warped. Ejector pins and sprue attachment points are oddly placed and leave big lumps right on the join seam that must be carefully removed.  Guess you were supposed to just look at the box and not try and build it. Banged Head [banghead]

But with the same tough love and attention that I enjoy and exhude I was able to get all the tricky sub assemblys to line up and joined the halfs which is where I shall leave it to dry tonight.

Hey if anyone sees Frank will you please tell him I am looking for him. Thanks and hugs to all!

FRANK!!!!!

 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:41 AM

Mike looks like you are ready to rock and roll! I am sure all of that hard work is going to pay of now.

                                                                                    SoulcrusherPirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by sidure on Monday, October 5, 2009 11:58 PM

Frank, Frank, Frank, I go away for three weeks for work and look what happens a full blown meylay and mayhem. Been looking out for this GB and its already started. Please put me down for the Tamiya 262A-1a clear edition. Been itching to get to this one for a long time so here I go.

Steve

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, October 5, 2009 10:45 PM

OK fellas, the new work room, with the exception of the floor (solid concrete - needs a whole year to fully cure before covering it) and a few strips of trim, is officially open for business. Can't wait to break 'er in by diving into this GB!

Here's a few pics to let you (and my wife!) know where to find me (one 'before' pic, then panning left to right).....

 

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 5, 2009 9:15 PM

Crusher- I think you are right on the nose there!  These guys are like a bunch of caged animals; tempted by the lure of styrene and paint fumes.  Some of these fellas will be posting finished pics before we even decide which part to cut off first! Shock [:O]  Something tells me since you are building one of those shake-n-bake kits, you're gonna be finishing yours about the same time as Aaron and Guy. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Brendan- Right on, Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the GB!  Hope you're ready for some good old fashioned model building and fun. 

 luftwaffle wrote:

Well, my Schwalbe are Nachtjager so the "fly by night" nature of the GB is good!!!

Now THAT is funny! Laugh [(-D]  Good one Mike. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Monday, October 5, 2009 5:55 PM
 Daywalker wrote:
 Luftwoller wrote:

What sort of a Group Build is this eh? Geez shoddy rules, dodgy start times. Oh the Humanity. Youd never catch me running a GB with such inconsistancies Whistling [:-^]

...Guy

LOL, no kidding!  I was hoping you wouldn't notice the fly-by-night nature of this GB. Sigh [sigh]

Glad you are enjoying that lovely Corsair, I expect nothing but the finest from you on that one. Approve [^]

Well, my Schwalbe are Nachtjager so the "fly by night" nature of the GB is good!!!

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Monday, October 5, 2009 5:39 PM

I have been eyeballing this GB for a little while and you might as well count me in Frank! I will be doing Revell's 1/72 B-1a/U1 offering in the markings of Leutnant Herbert Altner's "Red 12". If I can get my hands on a Tamiya A-1a, I might also include that and build it into Heinz Bär's one-off A-1a/U5.

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Monday, October 5, 2009 5:23 PM

Frank even though Mike may have given this GB start date a kick in the rear I do'nt think you would have been able to hold this crowd of till the end of the month either way. To many go getters in here! I bet half of theses builds will be done before you or me are even half done with ours. I may move slow but when I do it is with a purpose! Then again I finally dipped into my shake and bake stash for once instead of the short run sand to fit scratch build stash so mabye I can get something build in less than six months.Big Smile [:D]

Oh and Sarge do'nt forget I'm watching you!Big Smile [:D]

                                                                                         SoulcrusherPirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 5, 2009 4:18 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

What sort of a Group Build is this eh? Geez shoddy rules, dodgy start times. Oh the Humanity. Youd never catch me running a GB with such inconsistancies Whistling [:-^]

...Guy

LOL, no kidding!  I was hoping you wouldn't notice the fly-by-night nature of this GB. Sigh [sigh]

Glad you are enjoying that lovely Corsair, I expect nothing but the finest from you on that one. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, October 5, 2009 4:03 PM
OH Wow we got 262 early Big Smile [:D]

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, October 5, 2009 3:10 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

Guy? You done yet?

Geez, i wish. Still working on this millstone corsair. Lovely bent winged beauty. (Have to say that to keep Frank on side) I have some paint on it though LOL.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, October 5, 2009 2:57 PM
 Daywalker wrote:
 razordws wrote:
 luftwaffle wrote:

Of course the rules do allow partially completed builds, so technically.... Whistling [:-^]

He's got a point there Frank.  You left a loophole in the rules!  Mischief [:-,]

LOL, you got me there!  As a penalty for myself, I declare...

THIS GROUP BUILD IS A GO

So, dive on in everyone!  Guy and Aaron- I expect a lot of WIP photos from you two by the time I am back tomorrow morning with my coffee.  CHOP CHOP!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

What sort of a Group Build is this eh? Geez shoddy rules, dodgy start times. Oh the Humanity. Youd never catch me running a GB with such inconsistancies Whistling [:-^]

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by bondoman on Monday, October 5, 2009 2:36 PM
Thanks for those pics, T-bolt
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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, October 5, 2009 2:34 PM

Looks like everyone is building bar me!Boohoo [BH]

Still just the Puma, the Ki-44 and the Me 110 to finish..............Sad [:(]

Aaron, great progress on the pit and gun bay.

Mike, the Tamiya 262 kit has to be one of their best.

This is the one I built a couple of years back.

Karl

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, October 5, 2009 10:17 AM

 Bish wrote:
I would let it in. Surely its no different to the Cezch version used after the war.

...or the one I'm building with US markings. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank, glad to see this one's a go! Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, October 5, 2009 9:28 AM
 Summit wrote:

Well I was considering the fact there were no "Prop Spinners" involved..Whistling [:-^]

Laugh [(-D]  Maybe I'll search for some photos of the first -262 which flew with a piston engine, then I CAN paint a spinner! Propeller [8-]

Aaron- Right on, we'll keep a close watch on you!  So far, so good! Approve [^]

Mike (Spike190)- Sign - Welcome [#welcome] aboard!  Good to have another Mike here.  May have to change the name to reflect this.  Maybe, the MikE-262 GB? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]  Great to have you here.

Mike (TB379)- Those really are some good reference photos, thank you for sharing them!  I took a couple of photos of the -262 at the USAF Museum a couple of years ago, but the lighting there is so dark that good photos are difficult. Disapprove [V]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, October 5, 2009 7:13 AM

Hi all,

Okay, kit is open and cockpit is underway! I see Tamiya recommend XF-63 as a close match to RLM 66. What I'm not a fan of is the fact they don't give you straight RLM paint references, it'll take a bit of matching up to figure out what they mean by their mixing codes. That said, Tamiya have sure pulled all the stops out when engineering this thing -- a moulded metal insert for the nose gear bay to serve as weight rather than suggesting you shoe-horn lead in anywhere you can, that's thinking ahead!

Here's the box art:

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I bought it off eBay, it's complete except the decals, someone has taken a selection from them, and unfortunately the white upper wing crosses correct for Heinz Barr's Red 13 (the one I'm doing) are gone. There's also a sheet from the Tamiay A-2a in the box as well, again partially used. I might be able to patch the scheme together.

Here's a look at some of the paperwork:

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I would also like to take this opportunity to be the first to offer research data for the talented team assembled for this build. Here are the best dozen shots of the 262 on display at the RAF Museum Hendon, when I visited three years ago. Enjoy, and I hope they're useful.

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Cheers, happy building,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by Spike190 on Monday, October 5, 2009 5:10 AM

Hi Frank,

Any chance I can join in on this one? I wont be starting for a good while and I cant say what I will build yet as I will need to go shopping firstBig Smile [:D]

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, October 5, 2009 3:17 AM
 Summit wrote:

Awwww crud, I watch a DVD with the Wife and all "L" breaks loose...   I think I will still have to hold out till Halloween.. Everyone will be done by then and "I'll be all Alone, there no one here beside me"

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Except for an unbuilt Me 262 Wink [;)]

Don't worry, you won't be alone. I won't be starting mine for a while. Not even sure if it will be this side of new year.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, October 5, 2009 1:25 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

 

LOL, you got me there!  As a penalty for myself, I declare...

THIS GROUP BUILD IS A GO

So, dive on in everyone!  Guy and Aaron- I expect a lot of WIP photos from you two by the time I am back tomorrow morning with my coffee.  CHOP CHOP!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 Holy cow I am 5 days behind!!!!!!

WHY IS EVERYBODY YELLING!!!!!!! AHHHHHH! THE STRESS OF IT ALL TOTAL HYSTERIA!!!!!!

Sprue is broken and I am on something like step 2. Not a whole lot to this kit really? Looks a lot like a Revell kit or not very much newer in age although the moldings are ok on mine,not warped. A mix of raised and recessed details as well and a very simplified pit with most details molded on.

This is the Hasegawa 1/32 scale Galland  262 in case I ferget!

So I am realizing as I did with the 109GB about how ignorant I am on the basics of this aircraft, colors details types, extc. Should be a great learning experience!  Again.  Going to recheck a link Summit sent me on this kit but if you see me messing up holler but do it quick I am on a roll!

 Frank I have never had so many things going at once here ! What ya doing to me? LOL!

Guy? You done yet?

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Posted by Summit on Monday, October 5, 2009 12:07 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

Do you really think I could build an entire kit (even a Tamiya one) in less than 6 months?  I thought you knew me better than that! Laugh [(-D]

 

Well I was considering the fact there were no "Prop Spinners" involved..Whistling [:-^]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by bondoman on Monday, October 5, 2009 12:03 AM
 -Neu- wrote:
 Daywalker wrote:
 razordws wrote:
 luftwaffle wrote:

Of course the rules do allow partially completed builds, so technically.... Whistling [:-^]

He's got a point there Frank.  You left a loophole in the rules!  Mischief [:-,]

LOL, you got me there!  As a penalty for myself, I declare...

THIS GROUP BUILD IS A GO

So, dive on in everyone!  Guy and Aaron- I expect a lot of WIP photos from you two by the time I am back tomorrow morning with my coffee.  CHOP CHOP!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]



I've got a change for you Frank.... take that academy kit off and add these beauties instead

The old Trimodel kit. Did not know it was still around.
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:42 PM
Jason and Dave- Updated page one for you guys! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:40 PM
 luftwaffle wrote:

See, all it takes is one dumba** who doesn't read the rules to get things started early!

You're welcome.... Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid] 

LOL, so it was planned!!! Shock [:O]

 Summit wrote:

Everyone will be done by then and "I'll be all Alone, there no one here beside me"

Do you really think I could build an entire kit (even a Tamiya one) in less than 6 months?  I thought you knew me better than that! Laugh [(-D]

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:25 PM

Awwww crud, I watch a DVD with the Wife and all "L" breaks loose...   I think I will still have to hold out till Halloween.. Everyone will be done by then and "I'll be all Alone, there no one here beside me"

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Except for an unbuilt Me 262 Wink [;)]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by luftwaffle on Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:00 PM

See, all it takes is one dumba** who doesn't read the rules to get things started early!

You're welcome.... Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid] 

 

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, October 4, 2009 10:34 PM

Thanks Frank, I'm looking forward to this one!Big Smile [:D]

Nate

 

 

 

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