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70th Anniversary Battle of Britain GB - 2010

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Posted by darson on Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:30 AM

Jeremy I'm going to jump on board with the others here, I have seen photos of two color mottling but it's always been mottle blob 1 is color A and mottle blob 2 is color B, I've never seen two tone mottling.  I thing the artist who drew up the instructions used a little artistic licence to show a feathered edge to the mottle.

Spike & Frank sorry to hear about your paint jobs, I've only had to do that once before and it was a real pain.

Nomad & Carlos outstanding progress on your builds please keep the pics coming.

Cheers

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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:08 AM

Stik, Very nice work buddy it's looking great....All that detail in the pit and whats the bet you won't see it when the fueselage is closed.....But we all know it's thereYes

Frank, your stripping paint tooTongue Tied Must be an off day for the modeling gods, i had to strip the stripes off a mustangs rudder, but it was only one side and only a rudder....

Darren, good to hear your PC is up and running mate, i miss ya when your not aroundEmbarrassed so does Kremps...

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:10 AM

Stik that is stellar work mate!!!! Looking great!!!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jmabx on Friday, April 30, 2010 11:49 PM

Great work on that interior Stik! Yes I can't wait to see some more.

I sprayed the splinter on tonight and hopefully I can work on the mottling tomorrow. I'm itchin' to unmask the rest of it!

Beer

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 2:26 AM

Jeremy, excellent paintwork and masking, it doesn't get any better than thatYesYesYes

 

 

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 4:56 AM

Jeremy your paint job is looking sweeeet Yes I'm sure it will be decal time soon. As regards my Spifire I did the suggested Tamiya mix for the dark earth and it didnt look correct to me so off it all came, I've redone the sky and hope to do the dark earth this week, Frank it a shame you had to strip your F16 but it was kinda nice to know I wasnt the only one Wink.

Stik thats some excellent work, really really great to see, keep it up Yes

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 7:14 AM

Jeremy that is looking great mate!!! Looking forward to seeing the motling go on!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, May 1, 2010 7:56 AM

simpilot34

Jeremy that is looking great mate!!! Looking forward to seeing the motling go on!!!Toast

Ditto that, I love it!!!  Great work Jeremy, can't wait for more pics! Propeller

Frank 

 

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:50 AM

Jeremy, is that 70/02 over 65 or 71/02 over 65?

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:36 AM

Thanks for the compliments guys! Embarrassed  I'm not the greatest at it, but painting is my favorite part of the build.

 

satch_ip

Jeremy, is that 70/02 over 65 or 71/02 over 65?

It's 71/02 Satch. The 71 looks alot darker over 02 but when its under 70 it looks really light... deceiving. Hmm

Against 70/71

Beer

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:53 AM

I assume the light color is the 02.  it must be the lighting but your 02 looks much more tan than my 02 does.  What brand of paints are you using?

PS, not trying to be a paint Nazi, just interested.  It just goes to show that peoples perception of color depends a lot on ambient lighting and the method of reproduction.  Scale model representations of colors formulated and applied under war time conditions over 60 years ago are problematic at best.  Although RLM color schemes are some of the most documented historical examples we have, what those colors look like one's model is wide open to interpretation. 

As previously stated, your application of the pigments suspended in liquid medium is top shelf!

Satch

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, May 1, 2010 1:54 PM

satch_ip

I assume the light color is the 02.  it must be the lighting but your 02 looks much more tan than my 02 does.  What brand of paints are you using?

It's Model Master enamel. I thought I was just seeing things or maybe used the wrong color but when I compared it to the landing gear legs and guts of a few of my German birds, it's the same color. Maybe the MM enamels are off... I figured more of a grey-green color. I know that my PollyScale acrylic RLM colors are off compared to the MM enamel RLM colors, so I try and stick to one brand of paint per build. 

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, May 1, 2010 4:06 PM

jmabx

Thanks for the compliments guys! Embarrassed  I'm not the greatest at it, but painting is my favorite part of the build.

 

 

 satch_ip:

 

Jeremy, is that 70/02 over 65 or 71/02 over 65?

 

 

It's 71/02 Satch. The 71 looks alot darker over 02 but when its under 70 it looks really light... deceiving. Hmm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/4567917577_591d042929_o.jpg

Against 70/71

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/4567917661_e95c49fd34_o.jpg

Beer

I used MM enamel 70/02 on the wings.  It must be the lighting in our photography or the digital cameras themselves.

Would love to see them side by side in person.  Then again mine would probably pale in comparison.  Great job so far!

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, May 1, 2010 6:14 PM

satch_ip

Would love to see them side by side in person.  Then again mine would probably pale in comparison.  Great job so far!

I don't know Satch... that's a great looking Messerschmitt you have there. Yes  I definitely like the 70/02 combo better.

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:59 PM

Sorry to be posting so much but i've been moving right along here. Mottle is on and while I'm not completely happy with it, I like it enough to leave it alone. Looks about right and that's good enough for me. Wink

I really like the white.

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Posted by nomad68 on Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:24 PM

Jeremy    looks good I think the mottle looks fine. Yes

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Posted by Julez72 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 12:55 AM

DittoWell done Jeremy, i love that white noseYes

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 6:41 AM

Julez72

DittoWell done Jeremy, i love that white noseYes

At least it's not brown! WhistlingPropellerSmile Burger Jeremy, as with the Regia camo, there is no end to the combos that can be made and yours looks great!!!! A good change from the more common yellow noses.Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, May 2, 2010 12:12 PM

I'm loving that one Jeremy, especially the white nose!  Keep those pics coming buddy. 

Frank 

 

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Posted by jmabx on Sunday, May 2, 2010 4:24 PM

Thanks everyone... she's starting to look good. Beer

I put on the decals and I'm doing the stenciling now but I'm not sure if the white areas should have the stencils or not. In other words, would the white have been sprayed over the stenciling? I would appreciate any help on the matter. Cool

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 9:51 PM

Jeremy I saw a pic on the cover of Restored Warbirds, an Air Progress Magazine special YEARS ago that had a relatively close view of the nose of an Emil with a yellow nose and distinctly remember seeing the stencils on the yellow. After all, they are stencils, they can quickly be reapplied where pertinent information is needed. HTH!Yes btw she is really looking good now!!!!!! Getting her own personality now!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by nomad68 on Sunday, May 2, 2010 11:16 PM

Jeremy I like that paint job. enjoying everones WIP pics Smile For me life going way fast and build time a little slow. I rebuilt the gun turret on the Avro Anson. I have two of these kits and you can see in the pic a big difference in the kit vs, scratch one. The Falcon vacuform canopy looks better but it is paper thin I cant mask it so I will try 1/32" chartpac tape for the frame and leave it black. hope you all like my work so far.  Wink

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, May 3, 2010 9:53 AM

Nomad that is looking great!!! Big difference in clarity from the kit piece!!! U sure your not trying to make R2-D2 look like a turret???Huh?WhistlingPropeller

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by jmabx on Monday, May 3, 2010 4:56 PM

Thanks for the info Richie... that's a big help. Toast  I'll go ahead and finish off the decals tonight.

Helluva difference on those turrets, Nomad. Nice work!

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, May 3, 2010 9:01 PM

jmabx

Thanks for the info Richie... that's a big help. Toast  I'll go ahead and finish off the decals tonight.

No worries mate!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 6:29 AM

Nomad what a difference that turrets gonna make! I'm loving your work Big Smile

Jeremy the mottle came out great, cant see any over spray and the decals have really brought it all together very nicely. Great nose....

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by darson on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 9:34 PM

Nomad, good luck with the Vac form turret I'm sure it will turn out looking magnificent. 

You probably already know this I'm sure, but better safe than sorry.  You can make vac form canopies a lot easier to handle by filling them with Blu Tack to give them some extra structure.

Jeremy the whole paint scheme is turning out to be a real ey catcher, nice job.  By the way what color is the spinner on that 109?

Cheers

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Posted by Mobious on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 4:51 PM

Checking in on the GB, Everythings looking very nice.

 Jmabx, the masking looks awesome. Nice crisp edges and no ridges.

 Satch, a fine job on white 13. Looking very good.

 Nomad, big difference in the scratch built turret vs. stock, and yes the stock one does look like R2-D2. Nice detail work on an unusual subject.

 Keep posting updates

 

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by jmabx on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 6:04 PM

Thanks Mike! If I get any overspray when painting like that, I'll give a it a quick wet sanding with some 800 grit. Just a light rubbing with the sandpaper and it all goes away. Yes

Darson - Thanks! I thought the scheme was pretty attractive too ! Here's the nose colors... 

Mobious - Thanks for the props on the masking job! Beer Like I mentioned above, if I get those darned paint ridges, I give it a light wet sanding with the 800 grit. Takes 'em right down.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 10:47 PM

Jeremy the nose bits are looking great!! Not your average 109 colors and i really like it!!!

Off Topic I had been kicking an idea around for many years now and finally have reached a point with my skills that I think i will try something I haven't seen before in any scale. Somebody can shoot a pic too me if I am wrong btw. Here's the plan. I recently bought an old Hasegawa 1/72 Viggen (any ideas yet?) and have always loved the look of that plane in the Swedish splinter camo. Was looking at pics of a few yesterday and thinking bout them in between work breaks and I believe I have come up with a technique that seems good in theory to hopefully pull it off(pardon the pun) I would call it Progressive masking. Same principle of doing painted on national markings but not on top of each other. Does this sound mad or intriguing????

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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