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Posted by smeagol the vile on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:32 AM

I have come into the mindset that if you see a kit you want and the price is NOT extreme, buy it.  I do it at the flea markets,  5$ is a good price for a kit, I wont even hesitate as long as everything is together.

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:11 PM

Mad-Modeler

Gunpla_master.

 

Cool we can compare the 1/72 Arii and Wave Tomahawk kits. Old & new tech.

 

Can't wait till mine arrives in oh a month. Crying

Oh, I am sure the Wave kit is far beyond the ARII version.  The Wave kit you ordered was 1/72 too.  I did not know Wave was popping a Tomahawk @ that scale as well. I knew they were doing a 1/100th?  What got my attention was the Vampire decal that comes w/this kit.  Have seen it done up with a slight weathered finish and all the decals in place, makes a mean Tomahawk.  I do have a few mods to improve, not modify.

In answer to "If you want it, Buy it, if the price is right", I agree if you can afford and the price is agreeable to you, then by all means do purchase.  But I have as of yet to find that super rare kit that people will kill to get @ $5.00 - $10.00.  I wish!Sad  I have looked for awhile and I will tell you, if you find this ARII 1/72 Tomahawk f/less than $50.00, buy and run like the devil is after ya, laughing uncontrollably for your good fortune.  Any less than that and all your getting is a empty box!!!!!!!!Boo Hoo

I want too do the "BUG", but I just do not want to pay what the fella wants for it!Confused

I am really looking forward to all the wonderful Macross models listed here f/this GB.  Should be very interesting to say the least.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:08 PM

Surprised no Battroids so far. Like the Reactive Armor one, MinMay guard, etc.

Wave kit is pricey now due to exchange rate(but their kits on average are very good):

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10110457

 

1/72 is nice but a /100 could be used with one of the Kotobukiya Chain-bases & Trucks plus the addition of the Wave 1/00 Mobile Staff for a quick Dio/Setting.

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Posted by Kugai on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:44 PM

GM: What's the BUG you're referring to?

Mad-Modeler: What, don't the transformable VF-25s count as being at least "part-time" battloids?

I'll be digging through the stash soon to excavate my projects for the GB.  I know where the VF-25 ( yes, it is 1:72, by the way ), Queadlunn, and Glaug are, it's just a matter of finding those 1:200 kits...

In the meantime, I'm warming up for this mecha-fest with a couple Patlabor kits and a Revell "Ziyon" ( Dougram Bigfoot/BattleTech BattleMaster ) from my "priority" section of the stash.

http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww122/randysmodels/No%20After%20Market%20Build%20Group/Group%20Badge/GBbadge2.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:23 PM

Kugai, this is what I call the "BUG". Propeller

WOW, the Wave kit is the BOMB!  Just from looking @ the posted photos, the Wave kit if far ahead of the ARII, but I have that one, so that's the one I will go with.  But as I said, I will improve those areas that need improving, but yet stay within the realm of what the kit was designed for.  Thanks for sharing that Mad Modeler.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:38 PM

Kugai:

They of course count I was refering to the pure battroide kits as they often have markings, equipment not found on the transforming kits.

I should have all the 3 smaller kits in hand by next week. And I am also warming up with 2 Patlabor Kits(both Hannibal versions) those should here any day now.

 

GM:

Still deciding on paint-scheme, currently gearing towards a purple/red camo scheme and simple base. One thing I don't  like with the newer Wave kits(Old Garage/Resin kit company) is that their new kits are all snap-together ones.

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:43 PM

Gunpla Master
In answer to "If you want it, Buy it, if the price is right", I agree if you can afford and the price is agreeable to you, then by all means do purchase.  But I have as of yet to find that super rare kit that people will kill to get @ $5.00 - $10.00.  I wish!Sad  I have looked for awhile and I will tell you, if you find this ARII 1/72 Tomahawk f/less than $50.00, buy and run like the devil is after ya, laughing uncontrollably for your good fortune.  Any less than that and all your getting is a empty box!!!!!!!!Boo Hoo

I want too do the "BUG", but I just do not want to pay what the fella wants for it!Confused

I'd say if you can find a 1/72  Arii Tomahawk for under $80.00 you'd be doing well. I think I saw "the Bug" floating around the 'Bay recently for a lazy $55.00. Remember, this was a "common as dirt" $5.00 kit  (that's about what I paid for it then) 25 years ago.

The problem is, once you get away from the Valks and a very small handful of the "supporting cast", we're talking about kits that went OOP 25 years ago and haven't been repopped since. This puts some of them in the "super rare" class and it's basically a licence for a seller to say "bend over" if you want to buy one. I for one wouldn't want to pay a "collector's" price for something I want to actually build. (To the seller on Ebay asking $65.00 for the Revell boxed transformable Valks  and $250 for the Revell boxed SDF-1 kits - I'm laughing at you!)

Seeing that we've got a few Macross "rarities" on the list, I may throw in with a 1/72 Destroid Spartan. Big Smile

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:54 PM

We want Spartans, don't need to be 300. Even One will do! Stick out tongue

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:38 PM

Well as sad as it maybe, $78.00 shipped, be here w/in 7 days.

I know, my wallet is saying,With Stupid

No I am not rich, nor do I own a gold mine, I just have an appetite for OOP kits.  I can never be just happy with the run of the mill stuff, I lust after those kits that puts tears in your eyes when you go to Pay-Pal to pay for.  And the weirder the better, and this thing is sooooo ugly, I just had to have it.  To tell the truth, I just this week sold a whole collection of kits, that is how I can afford to buy this ridiculously priced kit.  The Tomahawk was not cheap either.  I have spent my Hobby budget f/the nest 6 months in the past week!   Phil, add ole BUG EYE to the list.  And by all means, a Spartan would be just great added to the GB.  At least I would not be the only one crazy enough to build one of these OOP kits.  LOLSurprise

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:43 PM

Gunpla Master
Well as sad as it maybe, $78.00 shipped, be here w/in 7 days.

OUCH!!!! IndifferentCryingDead

That'd be close to $5.00 per part.......

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:06 PM

Phil_H

 Gunpla Master:
Well as sad as it maybe, $78.00 shipped, be here w/in 7 days.

OUCH!!!! IndifferentCryingDead

That'd be close to $5.00 per part.......

That's it, rub it in!  I already feel like a Dunce, but lets just hope I get a real Bang for the $ @ $5.00 per part..   LOLBlack Eye

Here's the real kicker, I have bought both the Tomahawk and the Bug Eye from the same fella, I paid the ship amount he asked for, had to send another $15.00 thru Pay-pal to speed up the ship time to get w/in 7 days and not 30.  Now it was not enough he made what he did from the sale of these kits, plus what I already paid f/ship, but I had to send more, that makes me a hoses Censored.  I know, I did not have to purchase..................Dead

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:14 PM

Get the putty and scratch-building skills out for the Bug.

Done the kit a few times, it needs a fair amount of TLC.

Builds up nice and is a rather interesting and rare subject. Be different and build it landed resting on its 4 "legs"(they do rotate in the kit).

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:26 PM

Gunpla Master
That's it, rub it in!  I already feel like a Dunce, but lets just hope I get a real Bang for the $ @ $5.00 per part..   LOLBlack Eye

 I hope you enjoy it. I've got one of these sitting in a cabinet that I built around 1986 (with my 1986 skillset Hmm) If I built it now it would have turned out much better. There's a seam line around the hull which may be tricky to fill cos it's sitting in the recess (which is about 1/4 wide) which runs most of the way around the hull centreline. The four antennae also swing down and serve as legs.

Now, if you wanna see something to make a Macross collector weep....

Bought in the mid-80's at the then retail prices. The price tag on the Glaug is $14.99 Big Smile and that was the most expensive of those. I wish I'd picked up a couple more of those Monster kits... Crying

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:29 PM

Mad-Modeler we think alike, that is just what I am planning to do, standing on it's long lanky legs.  Thats what got my attention, the fact this thing looks like a "BIG BUG".  For some reason every time I look at it, I think  Johnny Quest!  Thanks for the advice, as best as I can remember, every OOP kit from the past always takes a tube of putty to get right, but hey, that's the charm of these things, besides as listed "Super Rare Kit", they demand alot of TLC to get together.  That was the kind of kits I learned on, not like the shake the box kits we build today.  Bandia Gundam kits can be cleaned, snapped and detailed painted w/in a weekend, and you get a very well assembled and engineered model out of it, where is the challenge.

Got a few ideas already for detailing abit furture.  But I know now who to go to if I hit a wall, my ole pal Mad-Modeler.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:42 PM

OMG, Phil, U tha Man dude.  Heres is at best a guess of what I have learned about these little beauties;  now mind ya, this is just a guestamation of the prices I have seen for ea, for a total of around $700.00-$800.00 for the lot.  The MONSTER, that bad boy is listing f/over $300.00 per!  Think I saw the Spartan listed for $135.00, the other two can be found for around $100.00-$125.00 per.  Yea, boy if only we had of known, I would have bought everyone I found and put back.  But hey, I use to build POCHER Cars, the last one I built, I had around $700.00 in it, that same kit is now selling still wrapped f/$4000.00.Dead

Now that I have seen your group, I just can not wait to see you build the Spartan,   Man that Monster is just bad to the bone.  I would hate to meet him in a dark allie. LOL  You know, to tell the truth, I am having a blast reliving these ole kits from the past.Wink

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:53 PM

Phil.

 Nice collection. Takes me back to the days of  Monogram Go-Bots(Hey it shoots its fists).

Not like we knew what the kits were all about but they were COOL.

Remember one shop had a selection of RevellRobotech kits in, got some for my Bday, Factory, 1/72 Glaug. Oskosh(southern cross name) and Trigon,Ripped the 1/72 Glaug open looked at the seat and said WTF this is NOT 1/72. Robotech hadn't aired yet.

Those were the days.

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:06 PM

Mad-Modeler
Remember one shop had a selection of RevellRobotech kits in, got some for my Bday, Factory, 1/72 Glaug. Oskosh(southern cross name) and Trigon,Ripped the 1/72 Glaug open looked at the seat and said WTF this is NOT 1/72. Robotech hadn't aired yet.

Yeh, the "1/72" Glaug, going by the size of the seat is probably closer to 1/144, maybe smaller. The Revell Factory kit was a real scream, you'd open a huge box and find two bags of parts hiding in the corner. Same with the Revell boxed Valks - you could have fit two complete kits in one box. Over here, the Revell boxed Valks were about double the price of the original Imai counterparts so we left those alone until later when they went out on clearance, but that;s another story  (or 6)  Big Smile  . 

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Posted by Harshman II on Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:15 AM

Some of my progress... Busy with work and little progress make only..

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:25 AM

Nice progress so far.

Just wondering won't decal application and detail painting be a bit tough with the kit finished in such bit sub-section.

Example: The wing stripes  are hard to apply when wings are fitted as they need to go quiet deep under the upper fuselage. Won't be a problem if the wings are fixed into position but moveable it will show.

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:36 AM

Hey Harshman,

She's coming along nicely Smile

Mad-Modeler

Nice progress so far.

Just wondering won't decal application and detail painting be a bit tough with the kit finished in such bit sub-section.

Example: The wing stripes  are hard to apply when wings are fitted as they need to go quiet deep under the upper fuselage. Won't be a problem if the wings are fixed into position but moveable it will show.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Hasegawa's Valks, but the wing sweep mechanism/mounting  has little stubs which slide into  the wings allowing them to be attached later. If he hasn't glued the wings to the stubs, they should slide off for painting and decalling. Hasegawa thought of everything (except the cockpit side consoles) when they designed this kit.. Big Smile

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:39 AM

That explains it, only build their 1/48 YF-19.

Thx.

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:44 PM

The mechs from the Robotech Factory would qualify for this build,correct?

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:17 PM

Correct the Robotech Factory Mechs are from Macross.

The Factory kit was initially sold as 2 kits.

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, August 26, 2010 7:49 PM

The "factory" kits came in two scales: The "big" Revell box was in 1/100 by Imai and contained two modules and the 1/100 Tomahawk and Armoured Battroid. The smaller kits sold individually were in 1/170 by Arii and consisted of four variations (VF-1S Battroid, VF-1A Armoured Battroid, VF-1D Fighter, VF-1D Gerwalk)

Yes, it would be nice to see the factory modules built up (in either scale).

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:32 PM

Count me in with both mechs from the Factory kit.

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Posted by Phil_H on Friday, August 27, 2010 2:42 AM

TD4438

Count me in with both mechs from the Factory kit.

Gotcha. 1/100 Destroid Tomahawk and 1/100 Armoured Battroid Valkyrie Smile

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Posted by Harshman II on Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:35 PM

 

 

I hope tml to be able to finished it.. But I think is a uphill task... Hasegawa decal is very good.

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:55 PM

Nice clean work Harshman. Smile

Now it would take a real Macross Geek to notice this, but you've done this bird in Hikaru's colours, but put a different Modex on her?  (for his VF-1S, it should be 001 and for his VF-1A, 011) I'm still trying to figure out what you've done with the head... Huh?

 

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Posted by Scott_A on Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:49 PM

Hey Phil,

 I'm new around here but this Group Build caught my eye. I know I'm not as skilled as most of the rest of this community but I wouldn't mind adding in some of my unstarted kits that I've been putting off building for more than a year now.

I was thinking on doing a few of kits. I was wondering if you have any issues with a vignette or small diorama from the show because I have an idea for a 1:100 Arii Gerwalk?

Arii 1:170 VF-1S

Bandai 1:72 VF-1J Battroid (15th anniversary)

Hasegawa 1:72 VF-0S Battroid

Possible

Hasegawa 1:72 VF-0D Fighter mode

Bandai 1:72 VF-25S Full armor (Skull Leader)

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Posted by Harshman II on Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:23 PM

Phil_H

Nice clean work Harshman. Smile

Now it would take a real Macross Geek to notice this, but you've done this bird in Hikaru's colours, but put a different Modex on her?  (for his VF-1S, it should be 001 and for his VF-1A, 011) I'm still trying to figure out what you've done with the head... Huh?

 

Usually, I am not a detail freak. So as long as the thing looks and understandable like Macross robot will do.. Even my military model like F-16 block 52 or block 30 all looks same to me. Big Smile  Unless I build it specifically for a friend working in the squadron. Then the accuracy and detail will be look into.

I guess the 2 guns head looks more menancing than 1 gun head which makes me chooses that one.. Big Smile

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