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Weathering GB - 2/1/2011 - 1/31/2012

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  • From: Zephyrhills,FL
Posted by daddy1 on Wednesday, May 4, 2011 12:21 PM

pepper kay

 

 Scorpiomikey:

 

Thanks pepper. im thinking about putting some scraping around the refuelling door too.

 

 

That'd be a good idea ... you know those boomers don't hit the mark every single time ... I imagine they've missed, at least once in awhile and doing so would certainly chip the paint a bit around the refueling door ... maybe a wee bit around the fuel tanks in the fuse and wings too and a touch around the cockpit ...

pepper

 While the boomers are very good at a very difficult procedure under the best of conditions, no they don't hit the mark every time. 

 While I was stationed with the 18th TFW on Okinawa during the 70s, one of my jobs as a fuel sys. tech. on our Phantoms was to ops check the the IFR . The task basically consisted of inserting a refueling probe ( as on the KCs but with a pair of handles instead), then pressing a button to make sure the disconnect  worked. That's a simplistic description ,but I remember seeing some pretty good scuffs down the backs of our F-4s due to misses by the boomer and/or Phantom crew.

 One technique I've used to replicate this look is to blunt the end of a toothpick. Dip it into aluminum paint. Blot off the excess( trying to "chip/scratch" the paint ,not put big blobs) . Then aim at the fuel door as if you were a boomer trying to connect to the reciever aircraft and make a few misses . The effect looks great and adds a bit of weathering to a modern combat plane many don't think of.

 Practice on some scrap to get the feel of how the aluminum rubs off the toothpick onto the model.  

 BTW- There were a couple of our birds that had a refueling scuff all the way back and down the side. Some off those misses could be really bad misses due to one thing or another.  Also, not all the scuffs/scratches went down to bare metal , some just scuffed the top coats of paint .

 Hope this helps , it's an easy technique to do. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

Howard

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 9:32 PM

Hey Doogs, sign me up.  I started building a 1/48 Hasegawa F/A-18C in the middle of April for the Hornet's Nest GB but I'm planning on weathering the heck out of it.  I'm gonna use some products that I haven't used before to see if I can get that dirty carrier plane look.  Here's where I'm at so far:

 

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 6:31 PM

Scorpiomikey

Thanks pepper. im thinking about putting some scraping around the refuelling door too.

That'd be a good idea ... you know those boomers don't hit the mark every single time ... I imagine they've missed, at least once in awhile and doing so would certainly chip the paint a bit around the refueling door ... maybe a wee bit around the fuel tanks in the fuse and wings too and a touch around the cockpit ...

pepper

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 5:52 PM

Thanks pepper. im thinking about putting some scraping around the refuelling door too.

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 5:40 PM

Scorpiomikey

Never really done weathering and i dont want to screw up the paint.

The birds are kept pretty clean ... I think I'd do a panel wash to lightly accent the panel lines, then dust the landing gear ...

Any much more and it would not look like the real deal ...

pepper

PS  This is IMHO only :-) ...

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, May 3, 2011 4:56 PM

So, heres my knighthawk so far. Not sure how to go about weathering it though. Any suggestions?

Never really done weathering and i dont want to screw up the paint.

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Posted by PhilB on Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:56 AM

Great job.  Compare with my Corsair which didn't make the GB but came from the same theatre of war:

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:50 AM

that is one outstanding Lighting, daddy1! Bow Down

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Posted by daddy1 on Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:35 AM

Ta-daaa!  

This ones complete! 

Looks like she just flew in from Henderson Field. One beautiful fighter plane, even all dirtied up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 This will be one of the fav's on my shelf for a long time.

 Howard

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, April 29, 2011 4:33 PM

Casper the Chihuahua

 

 DoogsATX:

 

Casper - that E-4 looks fantastic! Overall, how did you find the Eduard kit? I know that most of my issues stemmed directly from the awful fit of the engine cowl, so it looks like leaving it off was definitely the way to go!

You calling it done, then? If so I'll get a pic up on the front page!

 

 

Not having used the engine cowl, I'm not suprised it's a crappy fit. Overall the engine assembly wasn't too bad but the method of attaching it to the ammunition box then to the front of the office left a lot to be desired. It all relied on a 100% accurate angle of two engine braces and support struts. This then dictated how the engine (with the exhausts attached) slid in the fuselage and then how that went together. I decided to attach the exhausts afterwards for masking reasons and I'm glad I did. My two halves would not have met together if I had of built the bird their way. All in all a fun kit, lots of nice details, now it's on to building the diorama.

Cheers

I really need to make a point of getting to that Cyber-Hobby E-4 sometime soon. Curious to see how it compares...but I really like how they borrow the same method as Tamiya uses for its Spits...basically build the rest of the plane, then attach the engine/framing/cowl. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by daddy1 on Friday, April 29, 2011 11:20 AM

Casper- Interesting how the Reich's warbirds can look so sinister. I like it. Sorry to here about the poor fit of the cowl. Still a great job on the E-4. Bow Down

I've got some weathering pics of the Lightning.

Started by adding oil streaks and stains using a mix of black and brown from my daughters watercolors.

I'd pic up a generous amount of both colors on a brush then apply to likely oily spots. Then with a damp flat brush ,pull the color in direction of airflow and/or gravity. 

 

 

Also added some streaks with Prismacolor pencils.

Material for the mud stains and general dirt kicked/splashed up around Henderson Field.

I made a dry pastel "mud" mix of various tans and browns. I also added a few drops of dish soap and a couple drops of  white glue to the water  for a wet wash of mud later . Hopefully the glue will make the pastel wash more permanent . 

First a dry brush of ModelMaster dark earth together with the "mud" mix. 

 

Then a wet brush dipped in the dry pastel mix to create a heavy wash. Using  the broad flat brush to move and distribute the wash around. 

Allowing the wash to dry, followed with a dry dusting of the pastel mix.

I also worked the pastels onto the wing walk areas. I figure the crews would often track mud and dirt to those areas. 

 

 

 

Started the exhaust stains working in black and brown pastels followed by tans, grays , and finally a little white.

 

 

Finishing up the last fiddly details, and this build will be complete.

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, April 29, 2011 1:01 AM

DoogsATX

Casper - that E-4 looks fantastic! Overall, how did you find the Eduard kit? I know that most of my issues stemmed directly from the awful fit of the engine cowl, so it looks like leaving it off was definitely the way to go!

You calling it done, then? If so I'll get a pic up on the front page!

Not having used the engine cowl, I'm not suprised it's a crappy fit. Overall the engine assembly wasn't too bad but the method of attaching it to the ammunition box then to the front of the office left a lot to be desired. It all relied on a 100% accurate angle of two engine braces and support struts. This then dictated how the engine (with the exhausts attached) slid in the fuselage and then how that went together. I decided to attach the exhausts afterwards for masking reasons and I'm glad I did. My two halves would not have met together if I had of built the bird their way. All in all a fun kit, lots of nice details, now it's on to building the diorama.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:02 AM

Casper - that E-4 looks fantastic! Overall, how did you find the Eduard kit? I know that most of my issues stemmed directly from the awful fit of the engine cowl, so it looks like leaving it off was definitely the way to go!

You calling it done, then? If so I'll get a pic up on the front page!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:00 AM

Weathering is all finished for the moment. I've simulated general grime with streaking and some paint chipping in various areas of wear and tear.

Now onto the diorama.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:48 PM

After a bit of testing I've started on some weathering. A thinned oil wash is daubed on making sure I full all the cracks and holes;

Using a dry piece of paper towel to remove the excess I then use a dry brush to clean up making sure I use a front to back stroke;

The brush also helps to bypass and coat around details and protrusions.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:03 PM

Applied a sealing gloss coat. Next is the weathering, apart from the engine and cockpit (which have already been done).

The notes on this plane say she was involved in the Battle of Britain and saw heavy service between 1939-40 so I'll be applying quite dirty, sooty washes and some shrapnel nicks and such.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by daddy1 on Monday, April 25, 2011 10:47 PM

 Looking good there Hutch and CasperCool.

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, April 25, 2011 9:52 PM

All the decalling is done. I'll apply a gloss coat to prepare for the oil wash and weathering. Also yet to add the undercarriage and greeblies under the wings. I think the paint scheme makes much more sense with the decals applied. Hey Doogs your 109 had some nice work on the antenna wires with little attachments and such, how did you make those?

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, April 25, 2011 5:52 PM

Actually the pre-shading with the AB wasn't to bad. It was the first time I used the tan fine spray tip with the Aztek and after a while I got used to it and was able to get the spray to about 2mm.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by oddmanrush on Monday, April 25, 2011 10:08 AM

pepper kay

 

 oddmanrush:

 

Casper, I certainly don't envy you the preshade job on the 109! There are a lot of lines on that guy! To me, preshading is tedious but the effect looks good and your 109 is looking great!

 

 

A question for the group ...

Couldn't the pre-shading be done easier with thinned paint and a brush, say 1/8th" wide ? ...

Thanks,

pepper

It certainly could if you wanted to. One time I preshaded with a Sharpie ***DO NOT DO THAT*** I learned the hard way. The ink reacts with the Tamiya acrylic as well as the dull coat I applied. The Sharpie actually begins to show through.

Any how, I've never tried with a brush but it may lessen the tediousness and hand cramping I get when doing it with an AB.

Jon

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Posted by hutchdh on Monday, April 25, 2011 9:49 AM

Been a while since I came up on scope...lots of life getting in the way of having a good time.  I finally took a little time to do some airbrushing.  I had originally intended to do a heavily weathered Hartmann winter (white) G-6, but discovered I had the wrong canopy, so I went to plan B and will go another more generic route.  I wasn't the happiest with mottling and I may go back and play with that a bit.  Hopefully, I will have a chance to do more over the next few days.

Hutch

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In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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Posted by pepper kay on Monday, April 25, 2011 9:48 AM

oddmanrush

Casper, I certainly don't envy you the preshade job on the 109! There are a lot of lines on that guy! To me, preshading is tedious but the effect looks good and your 109 is looking great!

A question for the group ...

Couldn't the pre-shading be done easier with thinned paint and a brush, say 1/8th" wide ? ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by oddmanrush on Monday, April 25, 2011 9:27 AM

Daddy, thanks for the comment. I'm so far behind on all my projects...I haven't been able to pull the airbrush out lately so the Hellcat is still just hanging around waitin' for me. Great technique for painting exposed metal, very convincing and the same can be said for your lights. Your P-38 is looking really good!

Casper, I certainly don't envy you the preshade job on the 109! There are a lot of lines on that guy! To me, preshading is tedious but the effect looks good and your 109 is looking great!

Jon

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:08 PM

So painting time;

There's quite a huge contrast between the RLM70 and RLM 71 so I'm hoping this will be toned down during the weathering process. I'll seal this with a gloss coat in readiness for decalling.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:42 AM

All puttied and sealed. Just have to add some wing PE greeblies and ready for the prime coat.

Also sundries all done, some ready for weathering.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by daddy1 on Friday, April 22, 2011 10:36 PM

Oddman- I'll be watching your weathering on that 'Cat closely for ideas when I get to that phase on the one I'll be getting back to when done with my Lightning. Looks very niceYes.

Casper- Awesome work on the 109 interiorToast. Many years ago when I was in high school in Ft. Worth,Texas, I had the opportunity to sit in one of the Hispano built "109"s that were used in the film Battle of Britain.  I recall it to be a very snug little cockpit to fight a war from. Especially with the lid closed. No place for a claustrophobic. 

Dragonwagon- Neat little StuartCool. I'm normally a wings and wheels modeler, but this GB has got me tempted to give a go at some armor and naval stuff. 

Got some update pics of the Lightning. 

First up, some paint chipping with a silver Prismacolor  pencil. I'll add a little more chipping later with a fine brush and aluminum paint to get some variation in the intensity of the "exposed" metal. 

Base coated the turbos with Model Master chrome silver and allowed to dry overnight in prep for the discoloring and weather washes to come.

Materials used in my exhaust weathering process. The paints are just what I've on hand , but about any water based acrylic would probably work. My measuring is pretty much a" looks about right" method , so anyone trying this, experiment  to find what works for your application. 

I start with a few drops of Future thinned with a few drops of water (approx. 50/50). To this ,I add a drop or two of Thalo blue. 

You can see how the color builds up with each coat . Yet still very transparent, allowing the base "metal" to shine through. This would be very effective in discoloring chrome exhaust pipes, etc., and could be taken to various levels of color depending on how heat discolored and/or rusted you want. 

Could also be applied with an airbrush for a soft edge as on the polished aluminum panels under an exhaust stack. A polished P-51 for example.  

 

 

 

 

After a little dry time for the blue, a drop or two of red to the mix. Again experiment and adjust to the intensity of the purple your after. As more paint is added to the wash mix ,you may need to add a drop or two of water to keep it thin enough to work as a wash.

 Then a coat or two of the purple.Allow to dry.

You can see how the each color builds up while still allowing the previous color and base show through.  

 

 

Now , I'll add a few drops of yellow to the mix to give me the brown tones. Usually takes a little more yellow than the other colors to bring in a more straw colored brown. Again , allow to dry.

 

 I wanted to start the "rusting", so I added some ModelMakerz burnt sienna pigment to the wash and gave one or two final wash coats.

 

Finished off with a light dusting of dry, rubble dust and burnt sienna  pigments,

and a very light dry brushing of ModelMaster steel to pic up some highlights.

I'll sometimes use MM jet exhaust for this step , depending on the look I'm after. 

Went with the kit wheels and vinyl tires . Sealed off the wheels with paint and Future before installing the tires to protect against the vinyl eating the plastic , then sprayed with dullcoat. 

 Felt the tires were too black, so I went  over them with a wash made from pastels to give them a more rubbery look . Also gave the wheels a bit of wash to start their dirtying process. Then a final sealing with dullcoat.  

Here's a look at one of the installed turbos. 

 The pic really doesn't do it justice. You can see a deep metal shine and even some of the blue and purple tones through the browns and rust. All they need now are exhaust stains. 

For the formation lights under the fuselage , I lightly carved out a depression with a round Dremel cutter chucked in a pin vise. Then base coated with some chrome silver. Also the other nav. lights on the wing tips and tail were given a coat of chrome.

 Then added drops of appropriately colored acrylic to Future and built up the color on each light. Took more than one coat but the lights have a subtle reflective look to them and some depth.

 

 Down to the final assembly items and fiddly bits. Not long till this one is complete.

Howard

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Posted by DRAGONWAGON on Friday, April 22, 2011 1:11 AM

DoogsATX,

 

Is it still possible to enter this GB? If so, I want to enter my M5A1 Stuart.....Still in progress, but it looks like it'll be finished before 31st of January 2012....LOL

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Friday, April 22, 2011 12:37 AM

All stuck together, wings, rear wings and canopies masked and glued into place. I was hoping to use the reverse of the Eduard masks as new templates to cut interior masks for the canopies but the masks were SO bad I had abandon that idea. I have never seen Eduard masks cut so badly, only scored along the top and not all the way through the tape. I ended up making my own masks for the interior.

Not sure if I can say this on the internet but I'm building a bomb (Surprise) for the resin bomb trolley. The Eduard Bf-109 bomb set has some very nice PE details including PE stabilsers. BTW what colour should it be? Gray, RLM02 Gray or olive drab. I may have to do some trawling later for a colour scheme.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Julez72 on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 2:18 AM

Oddman, very nice paintwork, the preshade looks greatYes did you tone down the white on the undersides???

Casper, your 109 looks great man, crammed full of detail...very coolCool

 

 

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:56 PM

Just a test fit before I sew the bird up. A couple of minor fit issues, the top and bottom IPs don't quite align but it shouldn't be noticeable.

Note the verlinden maps in the pouch on the starboard side of the office.

Cheers

 

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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