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Posted by berny13 on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:06 AM

mississippivol

Got a question for ya'll cuz' I'm too lazy to ask. If you fire off all your Sparrows and all but one of your Sidewinders (happened with Col Olds in a furball), which station would the last Sidewinder be on? I'm guessing the right wing, outside station?

Glenn

That depends on which station was first selected.  With the AIM-7's it would automatically select left aft station first when the radar is placed in CW mode, but with the F-4B/C models there was no auto select for the Sidewinders.  The pilot had to select a station when the master arm was placed in the Heat mode.  With the F-4D and all models after the left outboard would auto select first but the pilot could step to any station he wanted. 

Berny

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Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:34 AM

Sparrowhyperion

The cutting involved is mostly removing the two thin guide strips intended to line up the kit intake parts, and the wedge shaped spacer molded into the fuselage to line up the intake distance from the fuselage.  Hard to describe.  The thing is, once cut, the kit part will no longer be able to be used and if I mess anything up, I will not be able to undo the damage because I will have a gaping 1"x1" hole in the fuselage.    Here's a scan of the instructions so you can see what I mean.

 

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/sparrownightmare/kmcinst1.jpg

Now you see why it's making me nervous... lmao.

Rich

 

 

I don't know how much cutting you've done, so please ignore this if you know it already. 

A possible strategy: First thing is to make a pair of replacement guides to match the ones you are about to snip, sometimes a little insurance is all you need. After removing the guides, mark out the part you need to cut out if there's nothing marked to guide you. There should be a corresponding shape on the resin to help you get it right. If in doubt, make little paper templates the exact shape and stick them down to draw the guidlines. Remember to stay inside the lines to leave the actual cutout a tiny bit too small, so you can snug the resin part in after a bit of adjusting, sanding sticks work great for the final adjusting. 

Those two corners at the front, you might want to drill them right through first, remember to keep the drill radius on the inside of your corner guide lines. That makes for an easy start and finish to your cut. When you cut, start at the hole and go down just past half way, don't go all the way to the other drill hole. The same the other way 'round. That way you don't accidentally cut right through the fuselage's wedge.

Don't try to cut all the way through the first time, if you are using a new xacto blade try and resist the urge to cut too deep. You might need up to 12 scratching cuts to get through. If you are using a bit of saw blade, you will definitely want to start with those drill holes, and remember to stay inside your lines.

Second  cuts should be from the holes going backwards to the guide side, not the other way around, again, you don't want to accidentally knife over the wedge details. Last cut should be easy, like the first cut, start at the cut and don't go much past half way down to avoid over-cutting.

Hey if decide to bail, you can glue the 'insurance' guides back on and save it for another build, and use very thin sheet styrene to cover the cutouts.

If things go really, really bad Rich, I'll have my bro send you some M-80'sWink

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:40 AM

Mine was bone dry when I got it.  The cockpit itself is the original kit.  Only the PE panels are AM.  The Seats and the straps are AM from Aires.  Man those are a beeotch to paint...  I guess they came out OK.  I really wanted to use more of the PE straps, but they just seemed to disintegrate when removed from the tree so I finally gave up after about 7 hours of frustration.  I am probably going to build it with the cockpit canopy closed anyways.  Sometimes I miss the old kits where you could open and close the canopies..

 

Rich

 

berny13

Good looking cockpit Rich. 

I got mine in the mail yesterday and let it soak overnight.  This morning I brushed it and have it soaking again.  I want to make sure there is no oily residue to spoil this one.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:56 AM

Thanks for the advice :)  I had planned on using a narrow razor saw held flush with the side of the fuselage so as to take the raised wedge off with one cut without the danger of cutting through the side of the fuselage where I don't want to.  The resin intake doesn't actually stick in the hole removing the wedge leaves, it just needs  for that area to be flat.  I figure if I use the razor saw, I can cut it off in a way so I can glue it back on if the intake doesn't work out.  I would cut the wedge off front to back with the razor saw blade flush with the side panel.  Then do the same for the two small guide strips.  If you don't think this will work, let me know.  I have done some cutting in the past but only for scratch building and on kits when absolutely necessary. 

Rich

 

Bockscar

 

 

 

I don't know how much cutting you've done, so please ignore this if you know it already. 

A possible strategy: First thing is to make a pair of replacement guides to match the ones you are about to snip, sometimes a little insurance is all you need. After removing the guides, mark out the part you need to cut out if there's nothing marked to guide you. There should be a corresponding shape on the resin to help you get it right. If in doubt, make little paper templates the exact shape and stick them down to draw the guidlines. Remember to stay inside the lines to leave the actual cutout a tiny bit too small, so you can snug the resin part in after a bit of adjusting, sanding sticks work great for the final adjusting. 

Those two corners at the front, you might want to drill them right through first, remember to keep the drill radius on the inside of your corner guide lines. That makes for an easy start and finish to your cut. When you cut, start at the hole and go down just past half way, don't go all the way to the other drill hole. The same the other way 'round. That way you don't accidentally cut right through the fuselage's wedge.

Don't try to cut all the way through the first time, if you are using a new xacto blade try and resist the urge to cut too deep. You might need up to 12 scratching cuts to get through. If you are using a bit of saw blade, you will definitely want to start with those drill holes, and remember to stay inside your lines.

Second  cuts should be from the holes going backwards to the guide side, not the other way around, again, you don't want to accidentally knife over the wedge details. Last cut should be easy, like the first cut, start at the cut and don't go much past half way down to avoid over-cutting.

Hey if decide to bail, you can glue the 'insurance' guides back on and save it for another build, and use very thin sheet styrene to cover the cutouts.

If things go really, really bad Rich, I'll have my bro send you some M-80'sWink

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:10 AM

Sparrowhyperion

Thanks for the advice :)  I had planned on using a narrow razor saw held flush with the side of the fuselage so as to take the raised wedge off with one cut without the danger of cutting through the side of the fuselage where I don't want to.  The resin intake doesn't actually stick in the hole removing the wedge leaves, it just needs  for that area to be flat.  

Rich

 

 

Rich, it sounds to me as though you are going to saw the wedge off of the fuselage.

Maybe I have it wrong, but the instructions you provide only need you to cut a panel out of the side of the wedge, but not remove the whole thing.

Does your resin intake have a wedge shape to replace the one you are going to saw off?

i just want to make sure you don't cut the wedge off if the resin doesn't replace it, does that make sense?

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:37 AM

Here are a couple of images so you can see exactly what I am talking about.

 

These first two are of the resin pieces themselves.

 

This is an image of one of the fuselage halves.

And this one shows what needs to be removed.

 

The shaded area is what will be removed.  There is a small lip in the resin piece that will rest into the hole made by removing the large wedge shaped piece which I highlighted.

Rich

 

Bockscar

 

 

Rich, it sounds to me as though you are going to saw the wedge off of the fuselage.

Maybe I have it wrong, but the instructions you provide only need you to cut a panel out of the side of the wedge, but not remove the whole thing.

Does your resin intake have a wedge shape to replace the one you are going to saw off?

i just want to make sure you don't cut the wedge off if the resin doesn't replace it, does that make sense?

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:58 AM

Thanks Rich, now I know what you meant by 'wedge.'!

Looks manageable!

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:05 PM

It should be as long as I can keep my hands from shaking while I saw it off.  LOL  Now if I can just find some new cans for those Spay engines...  I really hate the kit parts.  The detail is really soft.  I saw a couple, but they are ridiculously priced for just a set of engine exhausts.  While I look for those, my next step is painting the intakes.  I think I'll just use a rattle can on the inside then hand paint the turbines.  I think it will be easier to do before I put them in place.

Rich

 

Bockscar

Thanks Rich, now I know what you meant by 'wedge.'!

Looks manageable!

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:13 PM

Sparrowhyperion

It should be as long as I can keep my hands from shaking while I saw it off.  LOL  Now if I can just find some new cans for those Spay engines...  I really hate the kit parts.  The detail is really soft.  I saw a couple, but they are ridiculously priced for just a set of engine exhausts.  While I look for those, my next step is painting the intakes.  I think I'll just use a rattle can on the inside then hand paint the turbines.  I think it will be easier to do before I put them in place.

Rich

 

 

You can always try running some masking tape across the top and bottom, that is, on either side of the wedge to guard the outer edge detail from an errant saw tooth. I means there may be a tiny bit left, but saves you fixing external detail.Good look on new burner cans. Yeah, I have to remember to paint my stuff before installing it, We'll see...lol!

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:26 PM

Hi Everyone!

Well, here are the results of my first "Sludge Wash":  The front cockpit is where I concentrated on so please disregard the back.  I had some flat paint in the back cockpit that I had forgotten about so it did not turn out very good.  I think it looks pretty good for my first one.  I think I will lighten the color before I use it on my new cockpit.  I mixed the color myself, it was grey with black.  I wanted a dark grey but I think it is too dark.

 

 

 

 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:39 PM

Ken;

It has that realistic 'lived in' look, it's going to look great with the seats in place!

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:45 PM

Bockscar

Ken;

It has that realistic 'lived in' look, it's going to look great with the seats in place!

Thanks Dominic!  I appreciate the compliment.  How are your birds fairing?

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:32 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

 

 Bockscar:

 

Ken;

It has that realistic 'lived in' look, it's going to look great with the seats in place!

 

 

Thanks Dominic!  I appreciate the compliment.  How are your birds fairing?

Ken

Actually Ken, not bad at all. That Starboard wing actually dried true this time, I can hardly wait to finish the sanding and Mr. Tarmac (mr surfacer), then the rescribe. I busted a little piece off the back of the lower fuselage section during the weekend's surgery clamp session, but the patient is okay. The nose also dried okay so it's ready for another layer of styrene.

I decided to stop stressing and just go back to being a content veggy while I build, and it makes all of the difference. Deadlines didn't make much sense. 

I've seen so much great stuff here (that Doogs guy kills me!Bow Down), I have to be realistic, besides, this is my hobby, not my job.

Thanks for asking, besides, this build introduced me to AM resin, and the F-4 stuff is fantastic, and guess what, in about a month or so the post man is going to bring me Gator Gunk and those Aires burners, so life is pretty good.

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:46 PM

jimbot58

GRRRRRRRR!

Yet another setback! Besides having little time to myself lately to work my hobby, stress and aggravation from job, family and dealing with money (got to love those gas prices!), then my computer dumped on me, forcing me to shell out some bucks to replace it! Then spending time to install programs, transfer files, etc. and now a setback on the "Geasel"! I have just doing bits and pieces on landing gear, bay doors, pylons and loads, etc. but I was hoping to drop some decals on my 'Geasel' real soon! I picked up the plane after being gone from home today for over 15 hours and discovered that a broken wing tip on the forward slat on the outer wing that I had repaired, now is broken again! Seems I will never get through this build!

Finding it hard to motivate myself for the time being!Bang Head

Jimbot;

So there I was trying to flatten out that wing on the weekend, and i snapped the back-bottom panel off the rear fuselage. Everything seemed to be going okay and then yes, I wasn't sure If I wanted to smack my head like the smiley guy, or just smack the Flugel.

I counted to ten, and took up beer again. Well, just a few wobbly pops, I'm back on my health kick now. On your other point, I always thought tech would help us become more productive and make life easier. Some days it seems like a slippery slope to the Land of Stix! 

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Posted by STFD637 on Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:32 AM

Jimbot: I feel your pain!!! I think I get more done in the late hours of the night these days than any other time!! Best of luck!

I started on the Monogram kit at the end of March and took a week off for Vacation!!!. Here are the pics of the cockpit. My kit came to me a little beat up and when I started working I found that one of the ejection handles had broke. Luckily I was able to find it and glue it back. Wink

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Thanks for looking,

Travis

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Posted by berny13 on Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:36 AM

After letting the resin parts dry overnight, I sprayed primer on it this morning.  The primer is dry to the touch but I am going to let it dry for a full day before I start painting the gray and black on it.  Don't want to take any chances on this one. 

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

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TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by berny13 on Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:39 AM

Good looking cockpit Ken.  Just enough wash to make it look well used. 

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

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TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by berny13 on Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:43 AM

Rich, it shouldn't be too hard to get the intakes to fit.  If all else fails you can do like Bocks and build the completed intake assembly out of putty and plastic.  Wink

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

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TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:44 AM

LOL.  Somehow I don't think my skills are up to that big a challenge anymore.  I am going to try it today maybe.  We'll have to see how it comes out with the AM intakes.

Rich

 

berny13

Rich, it shouldn't be too hard to get the intakes to fit.  If all else fails you can do like Bocks and build the completed intake assembly out of putty and plastic.  Wink

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, April 14, 2011 6:18 PM

berny13

Good looking cockpit Ken.  Just enough wash to make it look well used. 

Thank you Berny for the compliment, I really appreciate it.  I don't blame you for being overly cautious with your cockpit after what happened to you last time.

Hey Dominic, I have to totally agree with you about the "attitude" towards doing these builds.  It is all about the journey, not the finish line.  I am looking forward to seeing some more pics of your progress.

Jim, that is a bummer about your computer bombing on you.  I don't think there is ever a good time for that to happen.  And then to find a repair needs to be done again has to make you feel frustrated.  Like taking one step forward and two steps back.  I hope you get back in the saddle again soon.

Travis, very nice looking cockpit.  Good job on the detail!  Yes

I am going to paint the insulation blanket that goes around the bottom inside of the front cockpit on my new tub tonight.  I will be using the Xtracolor gloss enamel so that when I apply the wash it will clean up.  One lesson I learned on putting the wash on the "practice" cockpit is to only do a small area at a time.  Even with the acrylic paint watered down and mixed with dish soap it seemed to dry pretty quick.  It is a lot of work when working with this much detail, but I really liked the results.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:32 PM

Hi Everyone,

Well, I was about to start painting my new cockpit when I realized that it was different compared to the old cockpit.  Here is a picture of the new cockpit with a arrow pointing to one of the spots that is different.  From my research, this is the Inertial Navigation System (INS) stack:

This next picture is of the old cockpit with an arrow pointing to the same location.  None of the pictures for any of the cockpits that I could find look like this:

 

In this next picture, I have placed arrows at two locations that are different.  From the pictures I have seen, this more closely resembles an F-4E:

 

Here is a picture of the same locations on the old cockpit:

 

I think that the new cockpit more closely resembles the F-4E cockpit than the old one.  They are both Aires cockpits.  After searching through all of the pictures I could find to match the differences, I finally noticed that on the side of the new cockpit tub it has "F-4G" embossed in it.  Now the F-4G was actually a modified F-4E, and from the pictures of all the cockpits I have seen, nothing resembles the old Aires cockpit where the INS stack is supposed to be.  So I am going to keep the new cockpit and use it.

Ken

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Posted by berny13 on Friday, April 15, 2011 6:27 AM

Ken, the new cockpit, the arrow is pointing to the ARN-101 INS control panel.  It is located in the rear cockpit, right side console.  It is definately for the E model.  The RCP radar control panel is also for the E model. 

Not all aircraft had the ARN-101 INS system.  Only the F-4E and a few RF-4C's had the system installed.  Only some E model aircraft from 72 models and up had the mod done.  All other aircraft used the old INS system, including all F-4G aircraft. 

The old INS system was analog and the ARN-101 system was digital GPS controlled.  Arnie equipped aircraft could be identified by the ARN antenna on the back bone and the UHF antenna moved from under the vert fin cap to the back bone.

Berny

 Phormer Phantom Phixer

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TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, April 15, 2011 11:33 AM

berny13

Ken, the new cockpit, the arrow is pointing to the ARN-101 INS control panel.  It is located in the rear cockpit, right side console.  It is definately for the E model.  The RCP radar control panel is also for the E model. 

Not all aircraft had the ARN-101 INS system.  Only the F-4E and a few RF-4C's had the system installed.  Only some E model aircraft from 72 models and up had the mod done.  All other aircraft used the old INS system, including all F-4G aircraft. 

The old INS system was analog and the ARN-101 system was digital GPS controlled.  Arnie equipped aircraft could be identified by the ARN antenna on the back bone and the UHF antenna moved from under the vert fin cap to the back bone.

Hi Berny,

Thank you very much for taking the time to clear that up.  I appreciate it!  Now I can proceed with confidence that I am using the correct cockpit.  Also, thank you for the info about the antennas, I will make sure that the correct arrangement is installed when I get to that point.  Bow Down 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, April 15, 2011 8:38 PM

STFD637

Jimbot: I feel your pain!!! I think I get more done in the late hours of the night these days than any other time!! Best of luck!

I started on the Monogram kit at the end of March and took a week off for Vacation!!!. Here are the pics of the cockpit. My kit came to me a little beat up and when I started working I found that one of the ejection handles had broke. Luckily I was able to find it and glue it back. Wink

 

 

[View:/themes/fsm/utility/http://i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx4/fyreater637/Monogram%20GB/models030.jpg:550:0]

 

Thanks for looking,

Travis

Travis looks like you painted alot of the dials by hand, and you've achieved a weathered look. What is that  great 'scope' green colour you used?

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, April 15, 2011 8:58 PM

berny13

After letting the resin parts dry overnight, I sprayed primer on it this morning.  The primer is dry to the touch but I am going to let it dry for a full day before I start painting the gray and black on it.  Don't want to take any chances on this one. 

Well Berny, you do not lead a charmed life after all! Of course, having fixed a few Phantom setbacks in your time, I think the Big Guy sends this stuff your way just to keep your axe sharp!

When and if I ever get that cockpit going, I will need you to critique that for sure. Did you have a specialty area in mechanics/electronics, or, I'm not sure I'm even asking the right question here, what kind of procedure did you follow and how did you know what t fix?

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:50 AM

It's Friday, so I continued and added more plastic, finish 'plait' 1:

Then i added another layer, trying to make up that 1.57mm for each side, finish 'plait' 2:

Here's the other side:

That's why the old folks called it "plaited", first layer:

And second Layer:

Easy does it port:

Easy does it starboard:

Final 'plait':

and port chevron:

and starboard chevron:

and:

Here' proof of concept, 3mm:

Here's the base line and gauge:

So I think I have approximated the width, and at the same distance from the tip of the nose.

So here's why I do it, the same as all of you, that's a very sleek bird, even in it's bones:

and:

and, uh, yeah, messy desk, the staff went home to drink beer and watch TV, see that Philly container at the end of my desk, that's breakfast:

and:

Last one, sorry if it seems repitititititititious, 

Oh yeah, for those of you machinists who love swarf, as an ex-CNC programmer, yeah, I love swarf, especially on my Cherrios in the morning, with'a bit cuttin' sauce, mmmmm.....

So that's all folk's, gotta let that toluene dry, maybe by Sunday my neuron (last one left) will have recovered and I'll post some more. Gosh I can hardly wait to get up and sprinkle that swarf on my cereal!Coffee

 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:10 AM

Jeez, Bocks, it's a privilege to witness such engineering and determination -- in a way it's a shame that all the effort ends up invisible under a pristine Phantom when it's all finished, but these photos are testimony to your input. Gold stars, mate, all the way!

Cheers, M/TB379

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:18 AM

Gents sorry about the repeating pics, they were supposed to look like this:

and like this:

Sorry it was late, but hey, I still have two days to go.Wink

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:21 AM

Thunderbolt379

Jeez, Bocks, it's a privilege to witness such engineering and determination -- in a way it's a shame that all the effort ends up invisible under a pristine Phantom when it's all finished, but these photos are testimony to your input. Gold stars, mate, all the way!

Cheers, M/TB379

Holly bat, Thunderman, never expected a decent human would be up so late, gonna call the cops on you!

Many thanks Mike, forget computers, I think I invented cut'n'paste!Wink

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, April 16, 2011 3:32 AM

It's only 6pm in Aus, just coming in dark... Nachos won't be ready for another half hour!

Must throw off the chains and fetters of real life responsibility and get back to styrene... Somehow!

Cheers, M/TB379

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