Way Too Many Props GB April 18, 2011 - Extended to July 28, 2012

VanceCrozier

macattack80:

Ok.  I got the cockpit finished.  After a test fit in the fuselage it appears that most will not be seen.  Oh well.  I know it's there. 

I used the Eduard Zoom set that is self adhesive.  I have never used the self adhesive stuff before and much to my surprise it works pretty good.

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I feel your pain! I used an Eduard cockpit set on a 1/48 P-38 recently, a big upgrade on the original Revell plastic. HOWEVER... once the cockpit assembly is trapped inside the fuselage, most of the instrument panel can't be seen, even with the canopy pieces left open.

troublemaker66

 

Well Fellas`, that`s why we take lots of digital pictures....

 

So true!

Unless of course you forget to actually take lots of digital pictures

VanceCrozier

macattack80:

Ok.  I got the cockpit finished.  After a test fit in the fuselage it appears that most will not be seen.  Oh well.  I know it's there. 

I used the Eduard Zoom set that is self adhesive.  I have never used the self adhesive stuff before and much to my surprise it works pretty good.

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I feel your pain! I used an Eduard cockpit set on a 1/48 P-38 recently, a big upgrade on the original Revell plastic. HOWEVER... once the cockpit assembly is trapped inside the fuselage, most of the instrument panel can't be seen, even with the canopy pieces left open.

Very aggravating indeed.  Although I would be even more mad if I detail painted the whole thing and actually looked good and you couldn't see it.

I got the cockpit glued in and the fusleage halves together.  No putty needed.  A little gap filling super glue in a few spots though.  All in all not bad.

As you can tell, most of the office is not gonna be visible.   

There is hardly any room for nose weight forward of the cockpit tub but there is this huge bay available to put is some weights. 

Hi gents, would a 1/72 Italeri Lockheed Hudson be allowed?

Theuns

Two props or more & you're in Theuns! That's one I haven't seen built up too often, looking forward to it.

Theuns

Hi gents, would a 1/72 Italeri Lockheed Hudson be allowed?

Absoluely! Welcome to the build!

Thanx lads, the gluepot is standing there ideling LOL!

I think I've got time enough to build a Ju188 if thats cool with you B17 Pilot? Its a 1/48 DML kit.Theuns looking forward to seeing that Lockheed go together and Kevin nice office!

TREYZX10R

I think I've got time enough to build a Ju188 if thats cool with you B17 Pilot? Its a 1/48 DML kit.

I'm cool with it! The more the merrier!  Updated the build list!  I've got that kit as well, looking forward to your build!

B17Pilot

TREYZX10R:

I think I've got time enough to build a Ju188 if thats cool with you B17 Pilot? Its a 1/48 DML kit.

I'm cool with it! The more the merrier!  Updated the build list!  I've got that kit as well, looking forward to your build!

Thanks B17Pilot appreciate that! Here the basic kit

Had to deal with a quite few ejector pin marks then a basic rlm 66

Wow, very nice detail on that 188!

I started the Hudson yesterday and sofar it's not a nice kit to do. The fit is not good like on the Italeri 1/72 Corsair I just completed. I also fint the instructions to be not clear in some areas.

The turret upper fuse section does not fit atall

The left wingroot bottom section is 2mm longer at the LE than the top section although the pannellines and pins lineup. Sanding will fix it, but it is a pain.

The cabin/cockpit detail is not bad , pitty most of it is hidden when fuse is joined. I didn't go to much trouble in the cabin. The only thin I disslike here was that the side windows fit in the holes and not like on some other models where there is a section that holds the windows frm the inside. This means that even using clearfix the windows still get messy.

Theuns

Cool looking Ju-188 .  Never seen that Hudson, neat.

TREYZX10R

 

Had to deal with a quite few ejector pin marks then a basic rlm 66

 

Nice! Looking forward to this one. All that glass should show off the interior quite well... and drive you nuts with masking it at as well!

Theuns ,Reasoned thanks!

Vance thanks and yes not looking forward to masking this one but hey it ca'nt be any worse than the FW189 I did last year right? Maybe?

More office detailing next will be a wash or 2

Looking reely good - even stirrups on the rudder pedals...

Nice cockpit! Is that all kit supplied?

VanceCrozier

 

TREYZX10R:

 

 

Nice! Looking forward to this one. All that glass should show off the interior quite well... and drive you nuts with masking it at as well!

Very nice cockpit. It's not often the inside detail shows much when closed up. This Ju-188 , definitely an exception.

I've done the ribs and stringers in the cargo/passenger cabin of the C-47 done .

My first step was to brush a coat of thinned green stuff filler to (at least somewhat) cover the engraved insulation pattern. Then sanded smooth.

Next, I cut 1/16th inch strips from thin sheet plastic , laid flat for the stringers. Once dry , cut notches for the ribs to be glued on edge.  Not exactly rivet counter perfect but good gizmology. Still ,tedious work.

I'm also installing a couple sewing needle eyes at both ends to mount a static line made from nylon thread colored with a silver Sharpie pen.

 I'll paint a base color of MM interior green and apply a field drab insulation blanket to the flight deck/ radio room compartments of the diamond quilt pattern as I did on the bulkheads in those sections.

Here's some WIP pics. 

Once I get this fuselage closed up , this build should start progressing better, as I plan on the rest of the build to be pretty much OOB.

Howard

Howard, buddy, how are your eyes holding up? Do you see stripes everywhere you look now?!?!

Vance thanks,I'm also going to scratch some hydraulic lines off the rudder pedals before I button up the office

B17Pilot thanks,no the seat belts are Eduard and the rudder stirrups are masking tape strips all else is kit supplied

Howard thanks yes one good thing about the 88's lots of greenhouse to look through. I'm amazed at the detail work you're doing its really looking good! Are you going to leave the cargo door open so more of it will be seen?

I finished the wash on the office,first was my own home brew of earth tone pastels followed by some Citadel Devlan mud

I also joined the 2 fuse sub asseblies together,the only problem with the fit is a small step

Do not glue the wing tips together as shown in the directions!!! It creates an ugly step at the seam(found this out the hard way on my Ju88c6) Instead glue each tip to the proper wing halve then glue the assembly together. I also clipped off the alignment tab to make the fit better

Trey-  Killer cockpit!  I have this kit somewhere in my stash. I had a bad set of decals though...you could see just by looking at them that they would shatter into a thousand pieces once wet. I then had a pretty good experience with Dragoncare...contacted them and they said mail them the decals so they could see what happened and they promptly sent a new decal sheet to me. I guess what I`m saying is, take a good look at the decals if the kit is a few years old and make sure they`re ok.

Killer work,as usually buddy!

Len

Trey, thanks for the compliment.  The office in your JU-188 looks amazing. 

theuns. nice work on the Hudson. 

Howard, nice job gluing in all those stringers.  You gotta be cross-eyed by now....

That detail in the C-47 cabin is exactly what I had in mind to do on my C-47. Glad to see a "how to" :-)

Theuns

Theuns

That detail in the C-47 cabin is exactly what I had in mind to do on my C-47. Glad to see a "how to" :-)

 

Theuns

 On further study of reference pics , I should have glued strips on edge above and below the cargo cabin windows. Would still be simple to do. 

The sheet stock I use is from the for sale/ rent, no parking etc. signs at the local home improvement store. You can either buy pre-cut strips or like I did , cut your own . A lot cheaper . Just be sure to use a fresh # 11 blade and steel straight edge to guide each cut. The stripe shadows you see in your eyes will fade in a couple days LOL.

I will be displaying this Goonie with the paratroop door open and the big cargo door hinges , I will simulate being taped off as would have been done for a real drop. Kept the rigging from snagging on the hinges. I also plan on having the top hatch over the flight deck open.

This kit has done some very nice PE boarding stairs for the open door. I'll also make up some equipment packs ready for drop to place inside, and am giving thought to making up the belly drop packs sometimes used.  Want it to look as if all it's waiting on, is a stick of Screaming Eagles to take their seats. That's my favorite way of displaying model war birds, armed and cocked, ready to go. 

Howard

Do I see a copy of Shep Paine's C-47 diorama in your near future?

I added some weight to the front end.  Hopefully I added enough.  I made depth charge looking things with duct tape and pennies.  I then glued them behind the cockpit bulkhead.  I put a piece of black sandpaper over the doorway of the bulkhead so you can't see the weights.  Here are a few pics to help better explain it.

The "depth charges"

Bracing made from styrene

The black grit of the sandpaper hides the weights nicely

Back of the bulkhead with sandpaper "curtain"

Looking good Macattack!

To be sure I have enough weight in the nose, I tape the rear control surfaces where they should be and anything other big item that will be behind the main gear to the fuseladge. Then I tape the main wings and any other major items (engine pods, etc) to the fuseladge as well.  I then place my thumb and index finger (or some spare tree sprue) approximately where the main gear will be and then see if it is nose heavy.  I add enough to ensure it falls forward on its own, with out help.  Also keeping in mind what paint/overcoat/decals will do to the balance as well.

Thanks B17Pilot! I will give your idea a go next time around.  This plane is rather big awkward to handle.

Len thanks,I'm not using the kit decals so no worries there .However I need a replacement canopy mine has a bad mold blem in it hope they are as helpful.If not I  can always go aftermarket I geuss.

Howard looking forward to seeing the doors in that configuration should also show off some of that great scratching you've done!

Kevin looks like you've got the nose weight figured nicely!

I've got the wings joined up and the nacelles in place not too much filler needed thankfully!

applied some grey paint to blem check and seal up the putty