Falklands/Malvinas War 30th Anniversary GB

Glad you posted on here. In regards to the land rovers, you could always do one that running around here now, as of course this GB includes anything from the Falklands in the 30 years since the war. There are no 1 tonners here now but plenty of lightweight ones. If you can post a pic of the kit, i will get the details of one thats here, such as VRN. Also, there are a few BV 206's down here that are used out on the ranges. And it would be great to see some figures for this GB.

Bish

like you say, loads of time. had am PM from a guy who i assume is American and seems to be big into the falklands. Seems to have a few kits, including vehicles. So hopeing he will join the band.

I am the Yank referred to here by Bish.  Sorry for the long delay in getting involved in this, but recently became a grandfather for the first time and had a bout of ill health, but am ready to go now.  I have been fascinated with the Falklands War shortly after it ended-was busy with final exams in college(VMI) and USAF officer training/commissioning while it was in progress.  I instantly and forever became a fan of anything "modern" British, especially Land Rovers and DPM uniforms (still wear an SAS smock everywhere).  To keep things short for now, I have quite a bit of Falklands related kits, decals and reference material available, so it is hard for me to figure out what to commit to.  For now, I plan on doing a 1/72 HAR 3 'Grey Whale' XZ 592 of No. 202 SQN,late 1982 ; 1/35 Lightweight Land Rover from Firing Line; 1-ton Land Rover FC 101 from Firing Line.  The Land Rovers may be "common", but I have pictures of them during the campaign-along with other versions as well-though probably relegated to the rear areas in Port San Carlos.  Would like to do a version of the Agusta A109 in Royal Marine colours after being captured from Argentina and before being acquired by the AAC for SAS use if I could find the old Revell/Germany kit 04456.  Also have several Falklands related figures in 54 and 120mm  I would like to do if I can get them to look decent.  Regards to all involved for now; am glad to see this topic getting the attention it deserves.     

Scorpiomikey I feel your pain, I've just made a start on my Airfix SHAR (new tool) and it's bloody woeful.  The cockpit on mine is being completely replaced by a resin one but the kit one is exactly as you describe and in addition the pilot figure is wearing WWII flying gear.

I did a dry fit of the wings to the fuselage last night and the gaps are huge, this is going to need a bucket load of filler.

Bish I got that photo of the FGR.2 from a guy I know on another site who visited the Falklands a while ago.

Cheers

That interesting about the Scimiter, i have no idea what the differance would be, but i am guessing it must be minor. And i would guess that any used in the Falklands would be early versions.

Just started the G.r.3 the other night (photos when i have something tangible) Holy mother of pus its a terrible kit. Leading edges arent even straight. Cockpit is a pilot and a couple of flat bits to hold him in (i think its meant to be a seat) I think as long as i mount it on a stand it should come out ok though. Lots of putty. Also ill be silvering the inside of the canopy to hide ther lack of detail. Make it a nice desk model.

Bish - that's be great!

Darson - meant to mention this earlier in response to your comment about early/late variant Scimitars. There's a resin hull in the box that came with the kit when I bought it - no instructions (of course!), wrapped in a plastic baggie that someone wrote on in marker that has long since faded away. I BELIEVE that it says "early version". Or maybe "early conversion"? I'll have to see what the differences are, and see if I can make it fit.

dupes, i will go and check it out when i have a bit of time. And ye, FRG.2 Phantoms down here.

darson, nice photo, did you find that on line. I pass that every day on the way to work

Azorean - I checked out that Bison sheet initially...unfortunately, if you look closely, their color references are "dark green" and "black". Heh.

Darson - I don't have those! A couple of them are definitely Scorpions vice Scimitars (shorter, larger caliber gun), but as far as paint schemes/markings/loadouts these are a treasure trove. Thanks man!

I figured the Tamiya NATO colors would pan out, just wasn't sure what year those became standardized colors, and when they might have been applied by the Brits.

• Bison Decals give some color reference
• http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bison/35006.html

 

Dupes you've probable already seen these but this is all I could come up with from my references.

As far as color goes I reckon that good old Tam NATO Green & NATO Black should be perfect.  Also If memory serves me correct, the AFV Scimitar is of a later configured vehicle, so if accuracy is your game, you may want to do some research.

Cheers

Azorean - can't watch that Youtube video here, but I'll check it out when I can get in range of some free wi-fi.

Darson - nice pic! Unfortunately, both of mine are Mk.I's...going to have to find someone to trade with me.

Found a writeup of "Scorpion Colors" in a recent issue of Scale Military Modeler International. The FV101 was the other AFV fighting alongside the Scimitar. There's some decent shots in there (all black and white, unfortunately) and a couple of color plates - so at least I've got a general idea of what it should look like markings-wise, and a definite color scheme to shoot for. Black stripes over dark green - would there be a specific dark green that I should be looking for? Not too hard to eyeball I don't think if that data isn't readily available. The weathering was pretty heavy anyway - going to be more dirt and dust colored than anything!

Darson -- well spotted! I have the same kit on its way too, so will bear that in mind.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

Dupes here is a shot of the Phantom FGR.2 which is now a gate guard at the airport in the Falklands

Tony it's good to be back and building again, as for the Airfix kit it's the new tool and looks pretty good.  It's weakest point are the heavy panel lines which I'll try and minimise with a few coats of primer.

Vance if you are doing a Harrier in EDSG don't forget they were supplied in a scheme of EDSG uppers over white lower fuselage and under the wings.  These aircraft were all over painted in an overall EDSG low viz scheme on deployment. 

If you look carefully at the photo below you will see that the undersides look lighter that the rest of the paint scheme.  This should be easy enough to replicate with a couple of drops of white to the paint mix.

Cheers

At minute 11:00 I think is a scimitar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo0BNYGgEV4

 

Bish

dupes, nice to have you on board, haven't seen you around in ages, i believe you have been having internet problems. Have missed your GB's.

Thanks man! Full long-winded description of my internet woes is over in the "welcome" section.

 

Bish

As for the Phantom, it can be included in this GB if you can find the right mark. The GB does include anything that has operated down here in the 30 years since the war as well as the war itself. So as well as the phanton this woul;d include Tornados and Typhoons. Theres a Phantom on static display out side the airport terminal here, i am gouing to try and get some photos when i get the chance.

Hmmm...Typhoons, eh? I wonder if the Revell 1/32 has any British markings inside. I need to do a bit of investigating.

As for the Phantom, it's definitely only Mk.II's, correct?

(This is my 5-minute "kids on March break" session!)

Hey darson, I'm adding your Sea Harrier to the lineup right now. I'll be starting off with the same one actually - It just seemed appropriate that I did an Airfix kit for this one, then I spotted the new-tooling. Fate I tell you! Good eye with the painted over sqn marking on the tail, I'd never noticed that before. I may try to do a little pre-shading work to try to duplicate the effect.

dupes, nice to have you on board, haven't seen you around in ages, i believe you have been having internet problems. Have missed your GB's.

Glad someone decided to do some Armour, though for this war the choice is limited.

As for the Phantom, it can be included in this GB if you can find the right mark. The GB does include anything that has operated down here in the 30 years since the war as well as the war itself. So as well as the phanton this woul;d include Tornados and Typhoons. Theres a Phantom on static display out side the airport terminal here, i am gouing to try and get some photos when i get the chance.

Good to hear from you Darren. Does the Airfix one rate better than the Italeri ?

Cheers

Tony

Hi there guys, if it's not too late to get involved I would like to throw my hat into the ring for this one.

I have the Airfix 72nd scale FRS.1 Sea Harrier along with a bunch of Pavla resin goodies which I will be doing as XZ457 from Operation Corporate.

This photo was apparently taken shortly after the task force's return from the south Atlantic and the three kill marking (unfortunately) were not present during the conflict.  Look carefully and you can see where the 899 Squadron marking on the tail have been painted over in EDSG.

Dupes I may have some shots that can be of help, I'll check the references when I get home tonight.

Found this quikish on military images.net

 

Started poking around for Scimitar pics...not finding much that's Falklands-specific (lots of Desert Storm/UN type stuff). Are there any websites dedicated to the Falklands war you guys are using that might have some photos? It appears that I DO have a set of markings that come in the AFV Club kit that are at least in the right time frame, and definitely the right paint scheme. Would like to get some more info if possible...anyone got anything?

The Phantoms did not take part in the conflict. Only at the end of the war some were send to Ascencion island.

Biiiiish!

Vance tipped me off to this one over the weekend...since you guys are distinctly lacking in armor participation (and I just happen to have something applicable), and I'd like to know a lot more about the Falklands War, I'm in!

Put me down for - AFV Club's FV107 Scimitar. Seen HERE

I'll have to dig it out of the stash to take a look at the kit-supplied markings...if they're not Falklands-appropriate, I'll have to scrounge up a set of Bison's Scimitar sheet, seen HERE. If anyone happens to have one of those kicking around they'd like trade or otherwise part with, let me know!

I'm also tempted to do a British Phantom...but looking at the list of allowed vehicles in the "other" thread, it appears that only the FG Mk.II would work - I've got a pair of Hasegawa 1/48 FG Mk.I's, but no II. If anyone happens to have a spare Mk.II and would like to work some sort of trade, let me know!

I know the kit you mean, ye deffinatly need to get that for that price

Bish

 

VanceCrozier:

 

 

There is still a Ta-152 in there from Italeri, which I just found out is a former Dragon kit, with a $10 price tag on it....

 

 

 

Is that the 72nd kit. Now if you let that go you need a good kick up the back side.

If I let it go I deserve several kicks - it's the 1/48 kit...

VanceCrozier

There is still a Ta-152 in there from Italeri, which I just found out is a former Dragon kit, with a $10 price tag on it....

Is that the 72nd kit. Now if you let that go you need a good kick up the back side.

MrSquid2U

 

 

 

Resolutions, promises and even sacred oaths pale in power to a 'good deal'.

Really, how could I afford not to do it?!

VanceCrozier

 

bondoman:

 

Oh you have to buy that! It comes with decals for XM607. It's not even that big, no bigger than a Lanc!

 

 

arghh - you're not helping, trying to talk myself out of it! My only resolution this year was to "build out of the stash until a serious chunk is gone..." Then the shop across the road closed down, forcing me to buy acouple because they were on sale... then this motherload of neat old kits shows up... In addition to all those cool old Heller/Airfix kits I've since grabbed a pair of ProModelera and a pair of Italeris!

(But they were reallllly good deals in my opinion!

There is still a Ta-152 in there from Italeri, which I just found out is a former Dragon kit, with a $10 price tag on it....

 

Resolutions, promises and even sacred oaths pale in power to a 'good deal'.

bondoman

Oh you have to buy that! It comes with decals for XM607. It's not even that big, no bigger than a Lanc!

arghh - you're not helping, trying to talk myself out of it! My only resolution this year was to "build out of the stash until a serious chunk is gone..." Then the shop across the road closed down, forcing me to buy a couple because they were on sale... then this motherload of neat old kits shows up... In addition to all those cool old Heller/Airfix kits I've since grabbed a pair of ProModelers and a pair of Italeris!

(But they were reallllly good deals in my opinion!)

There is still a Ta-152 in there from Italeri, which I just found out is a former Dragon kit, with a $10 price tag on it....

Oh you have to buy that! It comes with decals for XM607. It's not even that big, no bigger than a Lanc!

I don't remember though if it comes with standard bomb bay doors, but I think it does. Mine on the shelf here has the Blue Steel weapon semi-recessed into the bottom of the plane. She's also an attractive overall white with anti-flash markings (comes with kit ).

The intakes are an absolute nightmare. There would be no shame in putting FOD covers in there immediately. And it has no jet pipes, but that's an easy job with brass tubing.