(A)SW GBII - CLOSING

Been working on the TBF for a week now. It's not winning me over. This is all I've got done. One thing that's new to me... I messed up the IP beyond salvage. (unintentional) so I ordered the Eduard detail set. The IP is not compatible with the kit IP. I had to cut the photo etch and file and sand it to match the kit IP. Also had to cut off some of the sidewall detail so I could close up the fuselage. Never had that happen with Eduard sets before.

Now on to the rear cockpit. I know the bronze green looks different than what is usual but I found a color plate of Grumman bronze green and I matched it with my monitor (it's color corrected to RGB). I used Interior green, flat black, and FS 34079 dark green. More later.

Yeah i looked at Foxtrot class subs, they served with the Indian navy for 35years...You can see the similarity..

Thank you all for your comments. It is a very nice kit, especially considering it's 20 euro price tag. The port hull has a cutout so you can see all the goodies perfectly once the boat is finished:

The other side is closed so you can display it like that too

Yes, the type XXI was revolutionary and a base for russian and american sub designs after that. It was actually faster underwater than above. It also had the afforementioned hydraulic reloading system, three toilets (type VII had only one for the entire crew) and a freezer (a luxury the type VII's could only dream of).

Just read this story that, france used type XXI's they received after the war as late as the suez crisis!

Richard

Richard, wow man your making excellent progress on the type XXI...I'm very interested in your build, researching the Biber i've read alot in the last couple of weeks about the German U-boat arm...Apparently the type XXI was the most advanced conventional sub of it's time and was the basis of the Foxtrot class in the Russian navy..

As a side note the Biber i'm doing may have taken part in an unsucessful attempt to destroy the Nijmegan bridge after it was captured by the allies...in fact most of the Bibers operated from the Netherlands and were true iron coffins, 90% of Bibers sent out never came back...

many thanx men, i see some of our great works on "Official no aftermarket gb" (julez kermit and vetterman), no aftermarket it's my official way to build , i'm a great stingy man (hope is the right word for that i mean ).

With so little instrumets panels white drybrush it's the only way to reveal it; after matt black all instruments disappeared

At the end decided for the german version with total black propellers/ogive.

(p.s. picture above are commons free)

but the type XXI kit have the whole inner detailed? lots of pieces even there

whish to see it dirty washed

..

For japan warning

I re-started to modelling after brought some gunpla kits, and known lots of japanese  involved in gunpla modelling, and one of my best friend have his girlfriend from tokyo..

None of them was injuried by heartquake or tsunami, but nuclear plants ... i hope that the atomic warning will be under control soon .

Bsyamato I have to echo what everyone else has said, that is some very very nice dry brush work you have done

I hope Japan is able to get things under control soon and my best goes out to them.

Kermit MAN !!!!!!!!!!! talk about attention to detail. You have again out done yourself buddy . I hope some of it shows once you put it in the hull.

Bsyamato:

That Instrument panel looks great! Excellent drybrushing; have to agree with Julez there

Well,... I promised you guys some pictures of where i am at with the type XXI...

A total shot:

And a more close up one of the stuff i done recently:

Every compartiment is painted and built up separately and then glued on the previous one. Really neat! I am working on the engine compartiment as we speak and it will conclude the interior part... The whole thing will then be glued on the fuselage. Still figuring out how i will spray the outside and keep all this work masked...

No real weathering yet sofar, just painting and some drybrushing. I decided to use washes on the whole thing once im done with the interior to get a more uniform result. Hope you guys like it (yes, there's even a small galley and officers quarters inthere, no kidding!)

Richard

Bsyamato, cool update your drybrushing skill is superb, well done

great updates here.

i did something about gannet , but not great things,

started the cockpit and propeller group ,till now don't seems that this area need great details to add:

white drybrush on some surface

soon(?) some  good update for engines.

not so happy at this time, worried about japan emergency

Jbrady I have seen some of your work and personally think the kit will be a good challange for you. I have found when I build a kit that I feel is over my head that I learn a bunch that I wouldnt have had I not built the kit, ICMs MiG-3 comes to mind.  The advise I would give is dont be afraid to walk away from it for a day or two if you get frustrated. Thats what I do and when I do come back to it its with a different mind set and things seem to just fall into place.

Just my worth.

Wow, ive been gone for a couple of days and here you guys fill up an entire page... Very good very good....melikesit

Taxtp,

Your trafalgar is coming along very nicely. It might be an option to try to simulate the tiling with masking tape or something but it would be a serious job in that scale. So i understand your choice not to. Still looks great!

Julez,

Hey my friend. I see you are equally as skilled with resin and i can see you are racing along with your biber. You might persuade me to start looking for that new italeri one...

bsyamato,

Again, a very interesting update and excellent scratching! Keep it coming

jbrady,

I know where you are coming from m friend. Those instructions are a nightmare. I built that italeri rebox and italeri didn't even include the text that comes with the AM offering. But i really have to say that with some pictures (why not use my update pics from the previous GB?) and dryfitting you are bound to get there. Your descision ofcourse

Last week i've been working on my own type XXI and i must say that the interior detail is great! Litterally every little compartiment is showing complete with little beds and chairs and also the galley I should have some pics to show shortly...

Richard

Started fooling around with the AM Avenger earlier tonight. I've heard great things about this kit. I was really looking forward to it... not so much now. Great detail but very very fiddly assembly and crappy instructions. I've only been building kits since July and I don't think I'm up for this one... we'll see.

Wow I have been missing a lot of fine stuff going on here, even see some gizmology going on too.

kermit

Randy,

Buddy! Ofcourse i would love to have you for the GB! And i am very curious about your news here. Sub kits you say?? If  it is the revell subs, all of them are nice but the 1/144 kits are a little nicer than the older 1/125 U99 kit...just sayin. Oh,..... and subs fly through the water so technically it's not a ship

Looking forward to the news about your score

Richard

 

Richard I didnt make it to Michaels but am planning to get there sometime next week, hopefully they will still have one of the subs.

Dragon, to te forums and to the GB....Richard (our host) should be along shortly to make it official

I'd like to get in on this group build. 

I'm more than likely going to do a pair of Hasegawa  1/700 JMSDF destroyer escorts

Great work fellas...

A little more work from me

I've almost finished building the sub and i'm about to move onto the torpedos...Thing were getting a little frragile so i decided to stick it on it's base to avoid breaking it...

WIP pics...

Here's a start on the new Airfix HMS Trafalgar. The hull is three pieces, comprising of lower quarters and an upper half split longitudinally. The seams will need some work. Construction looks to be straightforward, I've already removed all parts I will be using from the sprue.

One interesting point is that the photo of the real vessel on the kit box shows a distinctive tiled appearance, however Airfix have not made any attempt to replicate it. I don't think I will go to the effort either.

Cheers

Tony

hi

also here some (little) update for the gannet

.......searchin on unused parts and old kits for a raw piece that will be the base for turboprops  .. (it's impossible to not found somethig )

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.. at the end found these that fit well (must be some type of weapon for old italeri f-117)

some cut and sanding after

needed again anothe piece to bridge with air intake, and lots of tubes wirest etc

After consulting pictures of real, a bulkhead (not sure this is the right word in english )

is visible on the ssection, then starting cut plastic sheet and shaping it:

cutting hole for engines:

needed some extra support because till the complete detailing of inner the pice cannot be glued to fuselage but only to the cockpit floor

glued! and lower part cutted.

final fitting test with engines

and that's all for now

Hey Jmart, Lewbud good to see you guys here

Well i've been plugging away at the Biber....

I managed after a few attempts  (see dud peices) to get the plastic rod Verlinden provided for the rudder actuating heated and bent into the correct shape...I also had to ditch the oversized brass etch part that attatches to the conning tower and replace it with a peice i made from very thin plastic sourced from a tub of Mc Donalds sweet n sour sauce.....

Jmart,

One LA class sub 1/700 scale....noted. I will put you on the front page What brand will you build?

Lewbud,

Glad to have you again! I will put you down as TBA. Lemme know what you decide on building and have lotsa fun!

Richard

Kermit,

Put me down for round 2.  Don't know what it will be yet.  Maybe something that flies (maybe the Hasegawa S-3 Viking in Centennial colors).

Richard/kermit - Cheers! I somehow missed the beginning of this one... sorry!

Add me to the roster with another 1:700 scale sub, an LA class. after that, I will probably do a destroyer or ASW modern frigate. if I have the time, i will add a wingie thingie (dauntless or devastator)

Richard, yeah i'd love to do a project like that one of these days...I do have one planned with the 1/72 Flower, in scene from the Cruel Sea the Compas Rose is taking on survivors from a U-boat that they attacked and i'd like to add the bow of a TypeVII sticking out of the water at a 45% angle next to a Flower with nets down with a few figures climbing the nets and more in the water....One day

Bsyamato,

I am glad you like the GB's. Come to think of it.... i do all my modeling for the groups. It is just extra fun to talk about it with people who like the same subject. In this case ASW stuff

Julez,

Hey have you seen the resin interior compartments for the 1/72 type VIIc, i think CMK make them...(subtle hint)

DONT even start about the 1/72 VII's..... I have been trying to find one for weeks now and the only one i found at ebay was in england, setting me back 100 euro's with shipping (almost doubling the normal price i paid) ... A bit too rich for my blood...

Yes, ive seen the resin stuff. Looks great too! Also saw somebody do a conning tower of a type VIIC in 1/35 scale that looked awesome too.

Richard

bsyamato

I like the GB way

 

Agreed, it makes building that much more enjoyable

Richard, yes sir you are 100% right, subs are very cool I'm loving the look of your interior on your type XXI..I beleive they have one restored somewhere in Bremen...Hey have you seen the resin interior compartments for the 1/72 type VIIc, i think CMK make them...(subtle hint)

bsyamato, yes some of the parts are wafer thin, mainly the stabilising fins on the torpedos...Will have to be extra carefull with them, i'm expecting a challenging but enjoyable build with this one...Your work on the Gannet looks first class, very well done....

kermit

Bsyamato,

Wow, you take your hobby serious..

Not so serious .. this evening exagerated at dinner, so not go down at the hobby office

just wasting time on internet .Never paid so much euro for a single little plane (just one hasegawa kit years ago) , and want to do my best for the gannet but..... epic fail it's ever possible

Good progress on your submarine. Good details on it. Following progress that are new for me

I like the GB way

Julez,

...I'ts Richards fault...

Suuure.....blame it on the frog...

C'mon guys,..... you got to admit subs are cool! In fact, this new round of ASW gb fun made me rewatch all kinds of asw related movies and docus as well as fire up the silent hunter series of games once more

Bsyamato,

Wow, you take your hobby serious Well done my friend. I really enjoy your updates and scratchwork skills! Can't wait to see what you do with the engines

And as for my own submarine....

The past few days i have been working on completing the sidewall:

Assembling the tower:

With visible command station and periscope:

And working on the torpedo room:

Next up will be the officers quarters and batteries... More coming soon!

Richard

Julez72

Stik, very cool.....So come on then, lets see that Gold Models set

Bsyamato, I like the look of your Gannet, awkward yet attractive to the modeler...Looking forward too seeing it finished

Randy, a sub you say, i've never seen you take on anything without wings before, i guess wer'e both out of our comfort zone....I'ts Richards fault

Wip Pics...

I've made a start and have cut some of the pouring molds off the Biber...Resin seems to agree with me and i have a feeling that i'm going to enjoy this build....

 

 

hi Julez

 intead i'm curious to see a resin build, never try one. I have a resin figure but never started it ... i fear the resin too easy for break. Hope to teach somethin from your build

Gannet updates

Cutting the engine inspection door on left side;

More cut on fuselage, need to make more space possible for details etc.

Watching pictures of real some little detail to correct.

on the front well ,the rounded shapes are greater than the kit on real and can be opend for engine maintenance and lots of wires and cables can be visible (good way to mess up a model )

Handling the piece with one hand drill.. piece came out fortunately without breaks. can be i put few gue.

not a great problem, i glued these pieces when i not planned an engine modding.

Easiest to continue the work!

that's the kit shape (at the same time i sanded the upper surface of well to give it a thin aspect)

and after real pictures confrontation:

Now the front cover

Details starts good but from real pictures are visible some undone detail (here a picture)

some cut, sanding needed.

One side done

That's all for now.

This evening again with tools in y hands

Stik, very cool.....So come on then, lets see that Gold Models set

Bsyamato, I like the look of your Gannet, awkward yet attractive to the modeler...Looking forward too seeing it finished

Randy, a sub you say, i've never seen you take on anything without wings before, i guess wer'e both out of our comfort zone....I'ts Richards fault

Wip Pics...

I've made a start and have cut some of the pouring molds off the Biber...Resin seems to agree with me and i have a feeling that i'm going to enjoy this build....

Randy,

Buddy! Ofcourse i would love to have you for the GB! And i am very curious about your news here. Sub kits you say?? If  it is the revell subs, all of them are nice but the 1/144 kits are a little nicer than the older 1/125 U99 kit...just sayin. Oh,..... and subs fly through the water so technically it's not a ship

Looking forward to the news about your score

Richard