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Posted by Theuns on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:31 AM

Hi all.

My Airfix 1/72 mk9 in colours of Stanislav Skaski in Tunisia.

Paints were Humbrol and weathering with pastels.

Decals were not good, silvered allot - even with gloss coat and setting solution.Had to eventually brush gloss under the edges to fix it.The centre red is also not correct.

It was a fun little build howeverYes

Aifix 1/72 Spitfire Mk9

Airfix 1/72 Spitfire Mk9 - Stanislav Skalski

Airfix 1/72 Spitfire Mk9

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Posted by Jester on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:34 AM

WOW thats really good for 1/72

 

I probably couldn't see half the tiny parts let alone glue them together. Skills Yes

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Posted by Jester on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:19 AM

Thanks to Doogs Ive ordered a few parts from Barracuda.com

 

Gonna go with the decals from Flight Lieutenant George “Buzz” Beur's Spit in early '44. He was a real ball buster in a Mark 9 it seems.

Also getting the more rounded type cannon covers as well. Hopefully wont take too long getting here as Im nearly up to the camo stage on my Spitfire >_<

 

Spitfire Mk. IXc, Serial Number MH883. 412 Squadron RCAF, 126 Wing, 2nd TAF. Flown by Flight Lieutenant George “Buzz” Beurling. Based at Biggin Hill, Bromley, England. January, 1944. George “Buzz” Beurling was the highest scoring Canadian Ace in WWII. He finished the war with 31 kills and 1 probable. 27 of his kills were achieved when he was flying in defense of Malta. MH883 was one of two personal aircraft he flew during the winter of 43-44. Standard Camouflage of Ocean Grey and Dark Green over Medium Sea Grey under surfaces. Sky spinner and fuselage band. Note 5 slot wheels, early style elevators, small carb intake.

 

 

Ladies loved him it seemed hahah

 

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:44 AM

Actually most of Beurling's kills were in a mark V while stationed at Malta, while only two aircraft were downed flying the mark IX.  Here's a link to his killboard.

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by Jester on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:19 AM

I know. But Im building the IX and have ordered the decals for this of his. If I was building a mark V would still be the same :)

 

Just finished reading up a bit on him, wondering why he was taken out of the air force in April 1944 to be honest............ strange, he certainly wanted to fight as he wanted to join the USAAF after that but wasnt let in..hmm? Confused

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:07 PM

It is true, "Buzz" Beurling had a knack for shooting down aircraft, but he was constantly at odds with his superiors.  He was a loner both on the ground and in the air and was willing to take risks to get that next kill, even if it jeopordized the others in his flight.  Officer promotion and a desk job didn't settle him down, so both the RAF and RCAF had enough of him and they let him go.  Am sure the USAAF was aware of his reputation and stayed clear of him.

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Jester on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:04 AM

Thanks there Jgerstic. Bit of a shame really, he was a fantastic pilot from what I can find out about him.. really cant believe they let him go so early in 1944!!!    Was he really that much of a rebel!?

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:04 AM

From anything I've sen/read over the years, it seems Beurling was a ridiculously talented problem child, personality-wise at the very least. One recent program on History Channel dealt with the defense of Malta & glossed it over as "he knew he was better than everyone else", and left it at that. Wink

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Posted by Jester on Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:15 AM

Thanks Vance. Im going to find out more about this guy, seems he had a hard up bringing too. Its sort of sad really, cant explain it.. just seems it =(

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:39 AM

It's like any "intense/public" profession. There are always a few who are very good at "x", but have a hard time dealing with anything else. (Billy Bishop had some issues after WW1 iirc) More than a few pro athletes fall into the same category as well.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, September 1, 2011 7:45 AM

I'd toss Don Gentile into that category as well. 

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Posted by Buckeye on Thursday, September 1, 2011 11:28 AM

Along with Ralph "Kidd" Hofer.  A real lone wolf.  A trait that eventually got him killed.

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Posted by Greenshirt on Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:23 PM
There were/are lots of great pilots...I've met a few. There are also average or worse pilots and ive known a few of them as well. The majority of pilots are good at the basics. There are a few great leaders, I've had the pleasure of meeting some. But there are rarely great pilots who are great leaders. We screen out those who are not leaders as they age/mature because we have a pipeline that continuously feeds us young pilots who are our future leaders. Beurling was a great pilot who became more dangerous to his country than to the enemy. He was no leader; at best all he could was continue to fly and fight as one of the wingman, but he wanted none of that. I wouldnt fly with a wingman i couldnt trust and i couldnt follow a section lead as wing if i KNEW he was going to get me killed. Great leaders know when to bench their talent; by late 1944 we had plenty of fresh pilots with good skills who were fighting fewer and fewer tired or grossly under skilled pilots. Why allow unnecessary risks when it's dangerous enough already? Tim

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Posted by Jester on Thursday, September 1, 2011 11:29 PM

This is why Im going to decal my Spit in his numbers. Fully agree there GreenShirt, though very unfortunate and kinda sad tbh.

 

Im wondering even today there must be men who have the lions heart for fight and fighting (not street brawling lol) I mean battle and now can go no where or have to funnel their "energy" into other things.. Seems he was a warrior without a battle.

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Posted by Greenshirt on Friday, September 2, 2011 7:02 AM
There are of course and most find a role in life that suits their warrior ethos. Some few don't. Beurling tried to ply his trade for the nascent Israel and unfortunately died in a plane crash en route. Had he continued I'm sure his life would have been that much more interesting to us modellers. I wonder what his mount would have looked like? There's a whiff for ya. Tim

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Posted by Jester on Saturday, September 3, 2011 6:17 AM

Lol hmm true I guess.  My life's been interesting enough thanks, I dont wish for anymore bullets fired at me tbh, not nice at all.

 

 

First coat of RAF Sea Grey2. Lovin the new air-brush, shows a quite a bit of detail in the rivets etc..

 

 

 

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Posted by Greenshirt on Saturday, September 3, 2011 9:51 AM

Since I build Spitfires regularly I thought I'd put another one on the GB.  This time it's the Czech Master Resin Seafire FR.47.  Kit number 5099.  It's all resin with some PE and a vac canopy.  First, the parts:

I cleaned up the fuselage and cockpit.  There is very minimal flash that a very light sanding removes.  The fuselage has some good detail for this scale on both port and starboard sides:

Since the cockpits of late Seafires were all black, and black is just too dark in this scale, I mixed Tamiya black with Acryl RLM66 (no mixing issues!) until I got a very dark gray.  Photos online seem to show the black cockpit as more a dark gray so this looked better.  Forward and aft of the cockpit I painted the fuselage sides Tamiya Sky.  Tamiya's Sky is too green and too bright for RAF Sky, to my eye and in this scale.  However it's not too bad for the interior green that Supermarine used on the Spitfire/Seafire line during production.  I've only recently shifted to this color from Tamiya Interior Green (XF71) because XF71 is very dark by comparison. 

I also dry brushed with some pastels to add a bit of depth.  It doesn't really show in the photo, unfortunately.  The rest of the cockpit is a combination of resin and PE.  I typically don't open my cockpits up, but this kit has the door already removed and two vac canopies, so I'll give it a go.  The IP is 3 layers of prepainted PE on a resin bulkhead.  :

Next up is to try to make the cockpit fit into the fuselage.  I've built a few other CMR Spitfires, and the cockpits always seem to be a bit too wide for the fuselage.  The problem is more at the upper end, not the lower. 

Tim

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Posted by Jester on Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:43 AM

Greenshirt

Since I build Spitfires regularly I thought I'd put another one on the GB. 

 

 

Why do you build Spits "regularly' ???   Indifferent

 

The one Im trying to get together is very taxing, though I enjoy it immensely I srsly wouldn't want to do this all the time!  I find the part of your comment a bit vexing... sorry for my dullness GS, just wanting to know what ya mean

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Posted by Greenshirt on Sunday, September 4, 2011 10:56 AM
Gasp! Someone questions the superiority of the Spitfire as "greatest ever!? In all seriousness, I fell in love with the Spitfire a few years ago after realizing my hobby was not focused (too many genres and kits too little time). It started with Naval subjects that became the Seafire that grew to the Spitfire family. I found the Spitfire to be a great first kit regardless of scale or media. They all construct roughly the same and in many cases the parts are interchangeable between manufacturers and media. If interested all my Spitfire builds are here: http://picasaweb.google.com/100381398074380078752. Some are resin, some are limited run but all are 72nd scale. I've only had difficulty with some major conversions (gave up on two Tamiya Vb to Ib and Ia to Va efforts) and all others were straight forward. I'll go back and relook at your build to understand your frustration better. Tim

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:01 PM

Started construction on the Airfix classic Mk.I.  Having so much fun with it, I dug out my Airfix Mk.IX.  I was going to do it in Skalski's colors, but since Theun's did that a/c I'll be doing mine as Johnnie Johnson's.  Digging out the Airfix Mk. IX, led me to my Hasegawa Mk. IX which I'll be doing as clipped wing a/c from 421 Sqn.  In finding the Hasegawa kit, I found my Italeri Mk.Vb which I'll be doing as an a/c from 249 Sqn based at Takali (Malta) 1942.  I wonder why I don't finish group builds sometimes.  Anyways, here's some pics of the Mk.I under construction.

 

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:09 PM

Jester

 Greenshirt:

Since I build Spitfires regularly I thought I'd put another one on the GB. 

 

 

Why do you build Spits "regularly' ???   Indifferent

 

The one Im trying to get together is very taxing, though I enjoy it immensely I srsly wouldn't want to do this all the time!  I find the part of your comment a bit vexing... sorry for my dullness GS, just wanting to know what ya mean

Jester,

In 1/72 scale, which Green Shirt and I build, the Spit is a fairly simple aircraft to build.  I got to play with the Tamiya 1/32 Spit a couple of years ago when it first came out.  While it is a gorgeous kit, I wouldn't want to build more than one.  That being said once you know the pitfalls of any kit, the next one is always easier.  Try a Spit in a smaller scale and you'll see what  I mean.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:50 PM

lewbud

 

 Jester:

 

 

 Greenshirt:

Since I build Spitfires regularly I thought I'd put another one on the GB. 

 

 

 

Why do you build Spits "regularly' ???   Indifferent

 

The one Im trying to get together is very taxing, though I enjoy it immensely I srsly wouldn't want to do this all the time!  I find the part of your comment a bit vexing... sorry for my dullness GS, just wanting to know what ya mean

 

 

Jester,

In 1/72 scale, which Green Shirt and I build, the Spit is a fairly simple aircraft to build.  I got to play with the Tamiya 1/32 Spit a couple of years ago when it first came out.  While it is a gorgeous kit, I wouldn't want to build more than one.  That being said once you know the pitfalls of any kit, the next one is always easier.  Try a Spit in a smaller scale and you'll see what  I mean.

While I don't build 1/72, I'd say the same's true with 1/48. The fact is, that Tamiya Spit is an epic kit. A fantastic kit, but epic, and very taxing in that you really have to pay attention to what you're doing. 

Obviously it doesn't apply across all kits, but I tend to think the amount of effort that goes into a build is about proportional to the scale.

Since there's so much 1/72 love here, let's say that's the baseline - 1X effort.

So, 1/144 would be 0.5X...about half as much effort to build.

1/48 - 2X

1/32 - 3X

Yeah, there's going to be a difference between kits (look at the Monogram vs. Tamiya P-47 kits...), but in general, that's kind of how I look at it. And I love me some 1/32, but I do have to take a break from them every so often to build something simpler.

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, September 4, 2011 9:00 PM

Well, she's starting to look like a Spit at least.  Still some prep to go.

 

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Posted by Jester on Sunday, September 4, 2011 10:48 PM

Hmm thats cool, each to their own I guess. For me bigger the better. I love the sheer detail in big kits and though I cuss sometimes I still love it (the building that is dudes..not the swearing) Wink

Oh I have built an ME-109G. I needed something smallish on my desk instead of a honking big buggar, was fun too.

 

Ill just whack this up here quickly. Spitfire food then maybe?  Chef (picture maybe naff as I took with LG mobile phone)

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Posted by JOE RIX on Monday, September 5, 2011 4:23 PM

Here is an quick update shot on my spit with the MM medium sea gray applied. Seeing everyones excellent builds and progress makes me feel like I'm moving at a snails pace. Yet, I make the best of the moments I get to sit at the bench.

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Posted by Buckeye on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 11:55 AM

Looking good Joe!  How does that paint stand work out for you?  I've almost picked one up a few times.

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:40 PM

Thanks Buckeye. I really like this stand, I'm able to tilt my models in a variety of ways for painting ease. There is also the "table" stand that comes with it in the set that I really do not use that often. Another stand I like is the pair of PVC tees. You saw those in some of Doogs picks and they tend to be real handy also.

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Posted by Noah T on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 10:45 AM

I have a 1/72 Airfix Mk1a Spitfire that I'd like to join with.

I'm debating which color scheme to go with. I'm leaning towards a desert scheme but may just go with the std green/ brown. I'll put pics up on an edit soon.

This kit was thrown in a bag (loose parts) as a freebie when I bought a mixed lot years ago. No decals so I'll use my spares from old kits. I guess I could take this a bunch of different directions....

 

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Posted by Greenshirt on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:47 AM
To be accurate, I don't believe there were any Mk Ia's in the desert. By the time Spits were sent they were Mk Vb or later. The Majority of the Mk I's were Dark Green, Dark Earth over Sky, with a few surviving long enough to be repainted In the Day Fighter Scheme of Dark Green, Ocean Grey over Medium Sea Grey. Of course, you could do a "what if"...

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Posted by Noah T on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:11 PM

Yeah, I got to thinking about it and the problem for me is the intake. You're right, I feel the same way about the trop 109's. Just doesnt look right.

I'm rebuilding my collection from near scratch. I built all the airplane 48 scale kits that wallmart and Kmart carried in my youth. When I could drive I went to Bobe's (Pensacola) and really admired the works displayed there, not too mention all the different kits.

I had a nice collection of thirty or so 72nd scale planes built while in my first house after I moved out. Then came marriage, a move, my son, and another move. I thought I carefully packed them, but it turns out almost ten years later what I have is a boneyard.

I saved all my box tops and instructions for all my kits. I cant believe some yahoo sells instructions for 3.50 a peice on ebay. I also saved all my spare decals and have bought a few aftermarket sheets since.

I'll save a desert scheme for an American Spit. I have a book comprised of memories in letter form from service members in all theaters. Our guys really seemed to have loved thier Spitfires.

I was just looking through the parts in this bag. No interior pieces. This is gonna be a quikie build I think.

 

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