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The Offical Natural Metal Finish Group Build III

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, March 19, 2012 1:05 PM

OK couople of quick questions: 1)How soon after you spray on Alclad can you mask it and spray another Alclad color without the previous paint lifting when tape is removed (I use Tamiya tape for masking)?  I got the base Aircraft Alunimum on last week and was wondering if I can get the other three or four NMF colors painted in one day.  Still have to put on the OD anti-glare and the blue and black ID bands, but just trying to get all the NMF done this weekend.

2) Will leaving Tamiya tape on over a period of a few days hurt the paint?

  

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Posted by Furyan on Monday, March 19, 2012 1:27 PM

When I did my Hellcat I left the TammiTape on around the cockpit area for over two weeks.. paint wasnt bothered at all.

Last build: Tamiya's P-51D Mustang in big 1/32 - Lt Col J C Meyer and his blue nosed bastards. Never forgotten.

   

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, March 19, 2012 1:44 PM

B17Pilot

OK couople of quick questions: 1)How soon after you spray on Alclad can you mask it and spray another Alclad color without the previous paint lifting when tape is removed (I use Tamiya tape for masking)?  I got the base Aircraft Alunimum on last week and was wondering if I can get the other three or four NMF colors painted in one day.  Still have to put on the OD anti-glare and the blue and black ID bands, but just trying to get all the NMF done this weekend.

2) Will leaving Tamiya tape on over a period of a few days hurt the paint?

1 - Depends on how daring you are...I'd say you could chance it after an hour, but I'd give it overnight. No sense in mucking something up out of impatience - that's a constant danger anyway! Also, if you're just masking panels for a quick shot, you can always use post-it notes, especially on big flat sections.

2 - Not at all. Just de-tack it ahead of time.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:31 PM

Thanks guys! Guess I won't be finishing it in one weekend.  Anyway finally got time to take a pic of the P-47 all shiny!

  

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Posted by Furyan on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:45 PM

Looks great, but heck thats some shiny paint, Im guessing theres something else going on top of that .. ? :-/

Last build: Tamiya's P-51D Mustang in big 1/32 - Lt Col J C Meyer and his blue nosed bastards. Never forgotten.

   

 

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Posted by kbuzz01 on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:47 PM

Wow, now that's what I call shiny!!  Cool  Nice job.

Ken

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Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:17 AM

Furyan

Looks great, but heck thats some shiny paint, Im guessing theres something else going on top of that .. ? :-/

Yeah, a few different shades of Alclad, then the OD anti glare panel and squadron markings, then its going to get weathered after the decals

Thanks, Ken!

Started masking off the panels last night.  Once I get the main color masked, should be pretty fast painting the other colors.

  

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:50 AM

Wow, B-17- super shiney! Cool

 

Am doing a demo on the use of Alclad and NM finishes at out IPMS club this evening- cross your fingers Tongue Tied

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Furyan on Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:51 PM

Ok wheel bay, guns and ammo boxes in place. Wings finally paired.

Must say again this is a delight to build.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can see two of the many magnets in this shot. These two are to interchange the landing bay covers. I wont be doing that much but for one time when I come to spray it instead of using masking tape.

 

Last build: Tamiya's P-51D Mustang in big 1/32 - Lt Col J C Meyer and his blue nosed bastards. Never forgotten.

   

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:55 PM

Furyan: Don't think I've said anything in a while about your P-51 but she's really looking terrific!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Furyan on Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:04 PM

Thanks man, yeah Im taking it slow atm so you're totally correct, I haven't had much to show. Hoping to get time to do more =]

Last build: Tamiya's P-51D Mustang in big 1/32 - Lt Col J C Meyer and his blue nosed bastards. Never forgotten.

   

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:00 PM

B17 man I would say you have gone and nailed that alclad paint buddy Cool Really came out well and shiny too !! Eats for the next installment.

Furyan I normally dont like open gun bays but yours need to be opened up, they scream for it.  YesYes

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by B17Pilot on Friday, March 23, 2012 1:16 PM

There's some spots on the bottom of the aircraft that are bad, looks like water spots, but I know they're not from water or anything, cause the black coat did not have them.  Guess I sprayed it wrong or something.  My suspension is the bent needle I found while cleaning the airbrush afterwards.

  

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:09 AM

B17Pilot,

Where are my shades..... That's ubershiny!!Yes

Furyan,

Love the way those ammobelts curl over the guns! As you will see in the next pic mine are much more crude.

Well guys, it's been a short while as i have been trying very hard to complete some projects so i can give more attention to the wildcat... Last night and this morning i am working on the wings with PE rich posable control surfaces:

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Furyan on Saturday, March 24, 2012 3:21 AM

B17:... looks awesome man, dont be so hard on yaself..  great job bro.

 

Guys its proud to be part of this group, youre all doing amazing stuff and its a highlight of my boring email day opening the links in my mail to what you boys are doing. POST MORE!  Yes  Big Smile   Yes

Last build: Tamiya's P-51D Mustang in big 1/32 - Lt Col J C Meyer and his blue nosed bastards. Never forgotten.

   

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, March 24, 2012 10:49 AM

Kermit Eats waiting for more.

Are those hinges and pins PE ?

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, March 24, 2012 10:59 AM

vetteman42

Kermit Eats waiting for more.

Are those hinges and pins PE ?

Yup, theres a small PE set included for the posable control surfaces as well as a set of vinyl tires. I should have more to show in a couple of hours as i am completing and attaching the wings as we speak...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:50 PM

And here the pics are. Main assembly is getting underway nicely at this point:

Nice part about this kit is the detailed engine but also these gunbays with removeable, multi piece hatches. Another detail you can see well in this picture are the blast tube covers that trumpeter added as an optional goodie. I chose to add them:

And here is how the control surfaces look with all the PE:

Next up is some minor seam filling. Mostly bad glue work on my part and not trumpeters fault mind you...Embarrassed And then it's on to the landing gear assembly. Thank you all for watchingYes

Richard

 

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Saturday, March 24, 2012 7:55 PM

Been a bit of a busy week, hasn't been a lot of time spent in the mancave.

Painting for the F-100D has begun;

Interior colour and black prime for the Alclad;

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:14 PM

Guys,

&*^***&*^$%# Disaster struck me just now... Almost finished constructing my wildcat only to find out i totally lost the cowlingAngryCensoredBang HeadBlack Eye

Does anybody know where i can get a replacement or maybe a resin cowling for an early 1/32 wildcat? I reaaaalllyyy don't want to throw all my work in the bin..

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:19 PM

Casper its gettin close to becoming shiny !!!!!!!!!!!! EatsEatsYes

KERMIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONONONO dont bin that badboy !!! I think quickboost makes a resin cowl for your Wildcat but not sure. However young pond hopper if you cant find another or the original doesn't show up from hiding, change your kung fu stance Surprise. Paint up a few figures and do a couple step ladders and the mechanics could be fixing a blown cylinder or a shot up oil tank or something, fixing a leaky radiator. Oh wait Wildcats were air cooled Embarrassed nix the coolant leak.  Maybe do a couple oil drums that could be kicked around. anything but dont bin it.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Furyan on Monday, March 26, 2012 2:19 AM

Nah you wont biff it Mr K (better not!)  .. have you tried to email the maker, surely they would have spares they sell..!!

Last build: Tamiya's P-51D Mustang in big 1/32 - Lt Col J C Meyer and his blue nosed bastards. Never forgotten.

   

 

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Posted by kermit on Monday, March 26, 2012 11:24 AM

I am pleased to announce i will be getting a replacement cowling from www.aviationmegastore.com

They are based here in the netherlands and really have anything aviation modeling related. I just sent em an email after my post here and got a reply within five minutes saying they would look in their spares department.

Now a few hours ago i got news that they had a cowling for me and will be sending it right away at NO charge!!  Talking about lighning fast excellent service huh?? It will be coming in tomorrow so no harm done in the endBig Smile

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 26, 2012 11:39 AM

Richard: Good to hear! Esp after all that fantastic work you put into her.

Casper: Nice! She's going look really cool in the NM Cool

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, March 26, 2012 11:55 AM

Richard - supercool! I actually just had my own awesome missing parts experience - managed to send one of the PV-1's fuselage windows rocketing into regions unknown last night, and it turns out Revell has an online setup for ordering replacements - free of charge! How cool is that?

PS - I'll be you find the cowl five minutes after you have the new one in hand.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, March 26, 2012 12:58 PM

DoogsATX

I'll be you find the cowl five minutes after you have the new one in hand.

That's what happens to me all the time!

  

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Posted by randypandy831 on Monday, March 26, 2012 1:22 PM

i know for a fact some of you are using alclad. i need a little help. how does the whole decaling process work? do you need to seal it then apply? then seal over the decals?

thanks! 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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Posted by B17Pilot on Monday, March 26, 2012 1:26 PM

randypandy831

i know for a fact some of you are using alclad. i need a little help. how does the whole decaling process work? do you need to seal it then apply? then seal over the decals?

thanks! 

Wondering that myself, almost at that point!  Just need one more NMF color and then its the OD anti-glare and blue squadron markings and paints all done!

  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, March 26, 2012 1:44 PM

randypandy831

i know for a fact some of you are using alclad. i need a little help. how does the whole decaling process work? do you need to seal it then apply? then seal over the decals?

thanks! 

Get thee some Alclad Klear Kotes - they go down super-thin and are amazing. Work really well over Alclad's NMF or just regular paint. I've been a habitual user of Gloss, Light Sheen, and Matte, and recently added Flat (flatter than matte) to the stable.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Monday, March 26, 2012 5:05 PM

thanks Doog! 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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