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Panzer III and Its Variants GB

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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Monday, May 23, 2011 5:29 AM

Def, the F is still first up.  I was perusing the Dragon site and this GB has give me Pz III fever!  Just came back from the Dallas IPMS show with a new Pz IV E DAK and a BoB King Tiger.  Got them for under $20 each.  Also two Jugs, a Corsair, and a Wildcat.  My personal contribution to wealth redistribution!

Satch

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, May 23, 2011 5:45 PM

ANDY - Man wish you made that post a day earlier, was looking for a good ref. book.  I ordered "Panzer III & its Variants" by Waiter Spielberger.  It should be here by the end of the week.

Guess I'e been building for around 3 years now.  My old K was, I believe, my 5th build.  It was somewhere around there so it was built at the end of my first year of building or the begining of the second?  About 2 years ago.

Feel kind-of bad for you and since I like you: The next time you go to Miami I'll go with you and keep those bothersome topless ladies away from you.  Sometimes one has to make sacrifices for there friends.

Rob

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, May 23, 2011 10:22 PM

satch ip- I am glad you got the Pz III fever too. Stick out tongue  I am afraid the waiting is driving some of us crazy already... I wonder where in the world Ben (Hinksy) is.  Hope he didn't jump off the Tower of London? 

Rob- I knew I could count on you to keep those ladies away next time we come to Miami Beach! Wink 

I almost ordered one of books from Spielberger but it was suggested that I get Achtung Panzer instead.  You can see why... I am going to post a snapshot of the page from my Pz IV Achtung Panzer for discussion purpose only.  There's 4-6 pages of details like shown below for every variant from Ausf A to Ausf J....

I found it very helpful during my current build Panzer IV Ausf H for the Ostfront GB so I told myself that I must collect all seven books if possible. Beer

Andy

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  • From: t.r.f. mn.
Posted by detailfreak on Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:45 AM

                         Noticed a fluctuation in both the number of kits and a rise in price on E-Bay for panzer III's and variants,anyone else or is it just me?

                                                      Greg"Detailfreak"RowleyYes

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Friday, May 27, 2011 6:15 PM

Havent been over to Ebay to notice but it would not surprise meTongue Tied

My PZ III and Variants book arrived.  Scanning through looks to be a good one.  Will read tonight but looks as if goes into detail on all of the PZ III family Big Smile

Is it time to start yet Stick out tongue

Rob

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, May 27, 2011 6:23 PM

Greg, of course eBay knows about this GB so they jacked up the prices on all Pz III kits... they are so evil! Devil

Rob, only 34 more days to go... can't wait either!  Almost done with my Chaffee and I hope to finish my Pz IV by July 1st.  Feeling the pressure... Stick out tongue and I am loving it!

Andy

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  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:59 AM

My name is err......Bill, no John, yea John Smith and I'm a modeling addict. My last fix was 20 minutes ago and involved FULL petting and fondling. I'm trying to quit until July 1st. I joined this "support group" to give me strength to curb the need to "fondle". My wife is away for a week and I'm at great risk.

I NEED HELP

ChazzerBlack Eye

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:48 AM

Chazzer

My name is err......Bill, no John, yea John Smith and I'm a modeling addict. My last fix was 20 minutes ago and involved FULL petting and fondling. I'm trying to quit until July 1st. I joined this "support group" to give me strength to curb the need to "fondle". My wife is away for a week and I'm at great risk.

I NEED HELP

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Its okay.  We're here for you.  Wash your hands, drink three Sam Adams Boston Lagers and post to this thread in the morning. Stick out tongue

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:08 PM

After your three drinks take a long shower with all of your sprues.  It helps...a little... maybe

Rob

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:22 PM

PANZERWAFFE

After your three drinks take a long shower with all of your sprues.  It helps...a little... maybe

So THAT'S what the "serious builders" mean by "washing the kit parts prior to painting."  That's a little kinky even for me.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:14 PM

Buddy, drink another three Sam Adams Boston Lagers after the long shower... remember they come in a pack of six.  Beer

Hang in there buddy... good to have you back Chazzer!

Andy

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 2:30 PM

It was a GREAT DAY yesterday.  Just because my copy of...

has arrived along with FSM July issue in the mail.  You can see why I really like this reference book... this is for discussion purpose only to give you better idea what I should do with my Pz III Ausf E.

 

Only 30 days left for this GB to kick off...

Andy

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 3:07 PM

Never seen one of the Achtung Panzer books before...is it all in Japanese?

 

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  • From: San Francisco, CA
Posted by telsono on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 3:50 PM

I have a 1/35 Dragon DML Pz III E in my stash that I was planning to do as one converted up to a 50mm gun and used by the 5th Lt. div. prior to be being renamed as the 21st Pz  Div. The photo is in a book on the 21st Pz Div. which I can post latter.

Mike T.

Beware the hobby that eats.  - Ben Franklin

Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. - Ben Franklin

The U.S. Constitution  doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. - Ben Franklin

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 7:11 PM

Dupes-  Its printed in both Japanese and English. However not all information was printed in English!  I would say about 75% contains English especially for all drawings, graphics, and pictures which is more improtant to me.  For the Japanese only part, I think it covers brief history of each models which I don't mind because that kind of information is readily available on internet or other reference books I have. 

I don't understand this... why they didn't just go ahead and include English for the entire book.  Maybe they are still angry that we won the war... Wink

Mike T- Welcome aboard!  This is going to be fun!  Now we will see two Ausf E built for this GB and it will be interesting to see how your build comes out with 50mm gun.  Big Smile

Andy

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:55 PM

MAJ Mike

 PANZERWAFFE:

After your three drinks take a long shower with all of your sprues.  It helps...a little... maybe

 

So THAT'S what the "serious builders" mean by "washing the kit parts prior to painting."  That's a little kinky even for me.

Just the "fiddly parts".

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 Eric 

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:57 PM

But, you need opposable thumbs for that! Huh?

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

  • Member since
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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Thursday, June 2, 2011 12:47 PM

Been a few days from last post, just got out of he shower with my sprues.  They should be good until we start ....maybe Huh?

Rob

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  • From: Illinois
Current Project Photos "Not in the Panzer III GB" which starts July 1
Posted by armor86 on Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:17 AM

Hello, 

Continuing along with some updated photos of my current project on the bench ... Updated Dragon Kit - Pz III Ausf G 'DAK' - when complete finished in DAK colors / paint. ... currently working on the finer details on fender tools, jerry can bin, and  wiring ... some kit bashing and extra details added. 

I have order two additional books / reference material .... Panzers in the Sand Vol 1 and 2 ....

back view Pz III Ausf. G - tow cable is different from what is normally configured ... again looking at photos taken in the DAK field. 

Photo on right side ... not sure if I'm going to run individual wiring to each fixture ... 

 

Tank Shop Barrel and wiring and fasteners 

Radio tray and fender 

 

 


Dan

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:52 AM

The canvas wrap/cover on the gun tube -- is that part of the AM barrel kit or is that scratch built?  If scratch built, what did you use?  I've tried both aluminium foil and tissue and haven't really obtained the results I wanted.

Beautiful build, way beyond my level of expertise.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, June 4, 2011 2:08 PM

Hey guys,

First off, that Pz III that Armor 86 is putting together is going to be very special stunning - I'm really looking forward to seeing some paint on it! Great job buddy!

I'm really, REALLY struggling to stop myself from busting my Panzer III N box open and getting cracking on my build! Obviously I won't but I'm running out of things to occupy what would normally be my 'build time'!

I'm waiting on a figure that a friend is painting for me to go on the base with My StuG III B - that base and associated scenery should occupy a few hours of a weekend that I'd normally spend building but I really need the figure before I can position everything.

I bought a bargain basement Dragon Brummbar in 1/72 to keep me going but 1/72 is just waaaaay too difficult (for me) to at least make it look half decent. The couple of hours I spent on her this afternoon and ended up with a total mess that I wouldn't even have liked to put in my own cabinet, let alone post a picture of on here (I was doing a little blog) so it went in the bin. Drastic? Maybe. Regrettable? No way. A kit plagued by fitment issues and infuriatingly bad instructions which just made everything look worse. Luckily it was only a few pounds but a shame too.

Well, I do have two tiny Dragon 1/144 kits upstairs - a Hetzer and a Lang. I suppose I'll have to build these as they comprise of about 6-7 parts each and one piece tracks so it's not really possible to mess these up. It's time to break out the 10/0 brushes! 

I've also got my 1/35 Dragon Sherman IC Hybrid Firefly in my stash but that is a special build and one which I want to expend time and money on and all of my concentration too so I can't start that yet! I want to build it from start to finish - I hate having half built kits!

What is everyone else doing in the big build-up? Do you all have builds on the go?

Cheers folks,

Ben Toast

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Saturday, June 4, 2011 2:24 PM

The barrel w/canvas was an after market resin from "Tank Workshop" (www.tankworkshop.com) Part No. TWS 2041 - Pzr III 50mm Barrel w/Canvas Sleeve, one could use white putty. The cyber-hobby kit is base on old Imperial Series 9032 Pz III Ausf. G kit and come with magic track, brake cooling air intakes covers, smoke candle rack, updated jerry-can with photo etched seals .... use a MG 35 metal barrel (LionMarc - early gun barrel). The rear mud flaps came from an older On the Mark Models photo etch set for the back (Pz. III Ausf. J) and use the Eduard front mud flaps along several other parts from the Eduard Pz. III Ausf. F - 35675 set.  Plan to use Friulmodel tracks and save magic track for another early Pz. III kit. The Tank Workshop also has Pz III Wheels w/hubs removed for use with the front cow catcher and large fender boxes of different sizes.   

 


Dan

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    February 2011
  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, June 4, 2011 2:47 PM

Thanks for the explanation.  Again, a beautiful build.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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    May 2011
  • From: Illinois
Posted by armor86 on Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:42 PM

Thanks MAJ Mike for comment ... resin after market stuff adds the detail and can save time ... thou you have to be careful fitting everything together and double check ... the Pz III project is my third build since I have gotten back into scale modeling again ... while in the Air Force with traveling every few years made things hard with models getting broken in transit ... thanks again.  

 


Dan

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    February 2011
  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:46 PM

Again, beautiful effort for a 3rd build or the 229th.Yes

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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    May 2005
  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:12 PM

Just checking in, waiting for July 1st.

Terry.

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:46 PM

Here's my "warm-up" to the Vorpanzer. First whitewash I've ever done. First friul tracks, too (love these things!). Oh, and my first Dragon kit. It's almost ready for its flat coat, and then it's on to weathering with oils!

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, June 6, 2011 10:17 PM

armor86- Loved the AM barrel... looking forward to see it painted. Yes

Doogs- Outstanding work.  I am surprised that you have glued the antenna already or it is just temporarily attached for the photo op?  I am way too clumsy that I would attach it at the very end! Stick out tongue

Guys- 25 more days to go... Tongue Tied

Andy

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    November 2006
  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Tuesday, June 7, 2011 9:42 AM

Only 25? Nice! I think I may be able to pull off both of my builds in July while I sit on the couch watching the Tour De France...I also may be able to talk Mia into doing one of the builds' actual construction for me!

Took a couple of pics of the two Pz.III-based chassis I did this winter, but they're WAY too dark. Will set up my photobooth tonight for some better snaps.

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, June 7, 2011 10:01 AM

deafpanzer

Doogs- Outstanding work.  I am surprised that you have glued the antenna already or it is just temporarily attached for the photo op?  I am way too clumsy that I would attach it at the very end! Stick out tongue

Thanks man! The antenna's on for good. I'd typically leave it off, but it's a pretty beastly antenna, and I don't see myself knocking it off.

Of course, now that I've said that...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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