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  • Member since
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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, May 7, 2011 9:03 AM

ogrejohn

 

 

Bobbaily- So far ogrejohn has signed up as his second build only if time permits.  So either you want to help him out or reconsider your options.  If you are into StuGs like some of us, Ausf B, E and F are still untaken. 

 

Thanks Andy-I'll wait and see what Ogrejohn says-if he wants to go with the Strum, great and I'll take the StuG F....or we could have two Strum's....yeah...that might be the ticket....

 

 

Not a problem. I was going to do it as a second build but, giving my usual glacial speed building, I don't know if I'd be able to finish it.

Thanks for the info Orgejohn-I think I'll start with the StuG F though-like you, I might add the Strum as a second build but we'll wait and see...

Andy-please put me down for the 1/35 Cyber Hobby StuG F Orange Box kit.  I won't be starting until late summer/early fall, but it will get done....

Bob

 

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 7, 2011 9:59 AM
Andy - from past experience, if you're really looking to hit each variant, your best odds are to have everyone sign up for a "primary" build, with secondaries listed some other way like (secondary). That way you keep the possibly uncovered models open for new participants. Just my 2 cents. I know with 1,000 Roadwheels we ran into a lot of people running out of time, leaving the forum, etc etc over such a long build span. Of course, anyone was free to throw in a second (or third...or FIFTH) build if time allowed.
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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Saturday, May 7, 2011 10:02 AM
As far as my build(s), I've been researching the Pzbeobswg quite a bit - looks like it will be a straight dunkelgelb paint scheme (which I've never tried before)...looking into making a wooden barrel for the "fake" armament. Also checking into a possible PE set? I don't think there's one specifically for this variant, but I'm sure I could adapt one of the other Imperial-Series III sets.
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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, May 7, 2011 7:33 PM

Hi, Andy I'm highly tempted to join especially with the start up date. I was to start on Dales Stug GB but it ends well before I could get a chance to start. I have a Stug III the Bose one from Dragon expo '09 or something that I'm itching to get stuck into.

The best thing to do is put me down as a maybe and I will let you know well before the start.

Terry.

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, May 8, 2011 8:42 AM

ogrejohn & bobbaily-  Glad things worked out.  I am using my mother-in-laws' laptop so I will update the roster list later tonight or tomorrow when I have the chance.  Bob, I got you down StuG III Ausf F and BOTH of you for Strum only as a secondary if time permits.

dupes- Thanks for the tip buddy!  It is my first attempt running a GB... I have been part of five GBs in the past so any help would be helpful.  I promise you I will not disappear because some of you know where I live... I look forward to follow your WIP on Beob.  Man, I have to learn how to spell those words...

I will update the list and add (secondary) to those when I have the chance.  Latest count of secondary build stands at seven. 

Terry- You know you are more than welcome to join us.  It looks like StuG III Ausf G will be very popular.  Always liked its look and I have one from DML in the stash.  Will add you to list as a maybe.  Will it help to get you join us if we agree to talk more about how good Irish beer are... Wink

Happy Mother's Day... starting tomorrow we can start counting days til the Father's Day.  I have a kit that I want my boys to get me... CB Pz III Ausf E for this GB. 

Andy

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  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Sunday, May 8, 2011 8:49 AM

Hey guys, I'm looking for aftermarket pieces for my "B". There are lots of stuff for the "G". As Most of you know the kit comes with an aluminium barrel and PE parts. I would really like to try my hand at some aftermarket stowage etc. I have absolutely no skills at scratch building. I' already having fun and we haven't even started! Cool. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. By the way I did check with Scale Hobbyist Tamiya, and Verlinden. I might have missed something.

 

ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Sunday, May 8, 2011 9:04 AM

http://store.spruebrothers.com/135-legend-panzer-iii-pzkpfw-iii-stowage-set-1164-p15751.aspx

This what I got to go with mine, but they're sold out.  Might be available at other stores.

 

 

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Posted by dupes on Sunday, May 8, 2011 2:13 PM
My source for all things Legend - Lucky Model. Cheaper, and free shipping, to boot! http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=LF1164 Their stowage sets are huge - can easily do 2-3 builds with one.
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  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Sunday, May 8, 2011 3:26 PM

The fun continues! I'm lovin' this stuff! I'm having  fun doing lot of surfing'. I don't want to make any boo-boos by buying the wrong stuff so: I found some AVF tracks for Panzer IIIs and Panzer IVs. They are workable and I like the price. (From Sprue Brothers). Will they fit my Stug III "B"? Thanks Mike. They are out of that stowage set. I did find a stowage set for the Stug III at Lucky Models. Thanks Dupes. Will that set fit my "B"? Or should I just use what fits? I know I sound needy but you guys are the ones who know. THANK YOU

 

ChazzerBlack Eye

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Sunday, May 8, 2011 4:03 PM

I'm assuming that the Legend set you're looking at for the StuG III is 1149? It appears to be for a later (probably G) version, but no doubt you could adapt it to a B without too many issues.

Keep in mind - you don't have to use all of it on one build! That's a lot of resin!

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, May 8, 2011 7:45 PM

Chazzer-  Check evilBay... got nine hits when I typed Stug III Stowage few minutes ago.  I agree with dupes that it shouldn't be a major issue to use Ausf E on your Ausf B.   I ordered Stowage Set from Verliden for my Chaffee and I only used liked 1/3 of set... I found the set to be way overloaded so I will save them for future builds. 

Also I used Modelkasten tracks for my Tamiya StuG III Ausf B and it was a perfect fit since I was not a big fan of rubberbands.  I am not too sure about AFV tracks... saw mixed reviews so better look further into this before you order it. 

Andy

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, May 8, 2011 8:18 PM

Guys- I have updated the lists on first page. Not many gaps left now but doubt few will ever be filled because of kits unavailability or require expensive resin kits.

dupes- Instead of typing (secondary) I am using (2nd) because it saves space.  Hope it works out.  Thanks again for your support. Beer

Terry35- Got you down as maybe for CB StuG III Ausf G 'Bose'. Yes

Andy

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:50 AM

Should work out just fine!

I've been pawing through the kit boxes for the Pz.Beobs.Wg. and the StuG A...must wait until July, must wait until July. Hehehe.

Devil

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  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:33 AM

Hi guys,

SWEET! I've just been to the LHS and as I'd hoped, my Tamiya Panzer III Ausf. N is in so I'm ready to go! The kit looks superb and I've got a load of spares from the StuG's left over too!

Here's my kit (the box art is Leningrad Winter). It's like the StuG III B kit in as far as the sprues are VERY similar (obviously) and it comes with an Aluminium barrel and PE grills.

I've finished my WIP StuG and just have the base left to do. I'm going to spend the time between completion of the base and the figure working on Panzer III research and getting some extra stowage together.

I've decided (I think) on the Kursk Summer paint scheme which is a Dunky base with random vertical lines of red/brown and dark green. It look good. I'm going to try the figure too as he looks superb.

I'm going to tighten my belt and not use Friuls. I'm either going to try the MK tracks or the vinyl kit tracks. I know the vinyl kit tracks are no good as you can't get decent sag onto them BUT as I've got a total of 3 pairs of Tamiya Panzer III kit tracks I was thinking of using the spare track lengths and carefully cutting them and adding cut pieces from the spare tracks to make them a bit longer. That way I can use CA, glue them firmly into place and hopefully get sag?

Otherwise I'm trying MK's.

I can't wait until the GB start date. Seriously - I don't think I can!

ATVB

Ben Toast

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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:16 AM

I am with you guys... six weeks to go. Tongue Tied

Last night I finally ordered the kit Cyber-Hobby Pz III Ausf E/F Orange box as it was on sale from Sprue Brothers for $27.49.  Couldn't wait until my birthday next month... I will just tell my beloved I just brought myself an early birthday gift. Wink  Of course I had to order something else, I bought this figures set for only $9.99 and I might use for my Pz III.  Four nice looking figures for that price was impossible for me to resist...

Have a great day!

Andy

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:12 PM

Hey, Andy!

Can you tease us with a preview of the much sought-after Panzer III and Its Variants GB badge?

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

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  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:16 AM

Andy, I just ordered Legends Stug III stowage set. I'm still looking for a good deal on the Modelkasten tracks.

I can't wait for the Brown truck!

 

 

 

 

Scott

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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:32 AM

MAJ Mike- I already have one in mind but I haven't had the chance to make one.  I don't have PhotoShop but my wife does and I haven't used it before so she will help me create the badge.  Here's what I have in mind... pick a great picture OR blueprint drawing of  Pz III.  Then insert large font sized roman numerals III.  Then have chop the rest of picture outside the numbers off leaving only the picture/drawing inside the numbers.   Hope you understand what I am trying to describe... Stick out tongue

Chazzer-  Looks like we are going to have a competition.  My order is scheduled for delivery tomorrow via Fed Ex.  Big Smile

 

Andy

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  • From: San Antonio
Posted by MAJ Mike on Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:40 AM

My skill with Photoshop is non-existant.  My talent involves sitting in the back of the room and making snarky comments.  Wish I could help.

No big deal.  Just asking.  We have lots of time.  I'm being real good.  I've only fondled the Panzer III L kit twice in the past week. Embarrassed

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

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  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:43 PM

Andy, Still waiting. My package is in MO. Hopefully it will be here(CT) in a couple of days. Did you get yours? Also I'm having a hard time trying to find those Modelkasten tracks. Lots of places are out or not in stock. Any suggestions?

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, May 13, 2011 12:07 AM

MAJ Mike- There's nothing wrong about fondling your models. Big Smile  Can't wait to do the same tomorrow when my kit arrives.

Chazzer-  Mine is somewhere in Illinois at Fed Ex hub.  It is still scheduled for delivery tomorrow.  wbill told me about this website where he usually orders his MK tracks from.  I ordered twice in the past and I didn't have any issue.  The website is www.rzm.com.  I plan to do the same for my Pz IV that I am working on right now.  Hope this helps...

Andy

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, May 13, 2011 5:51 AM

Chazzer

Andy, Still waiting. My package is in MO. Hopefully it will be here(CT) in a couple of days. Did you get yours? Also I'm having a hard time trying to find those Modelkasten tracks. Lots of places are out or not in stock. Any suggestions?

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First of all, the GB doesn't start until July, those items could be back in stock by then.  Most places have a "watch" or "wait"  list that may notify you when the item is back in stock.

That said, you could always do everything except the tracks, etc and then add the missing items when they arrive.  The GB lasts a year.  I know I state the obvious, but that's what I'm best at.  This all is supposed to be fun. 

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: The Great North Woods, Maine
Posted by Chazzer on Friday, May 13, 2011 6:24 AM

Yea I know I've got time. I feel like a kid beforeChristmas time. Fun? This IS fun. I'm truley having a great time. Don't be the Grinch.

LOL, All in fun!!!!

Thanks Andy, Good site.

ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, May 13, 2011 6:26 AM

Just trying to help.

 

 

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Friday, May 13, 2011 5:15 PM

I fondled mine too.Surprise

Rob

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, May 13, 2011 6:01 PM

I guess we're already in a support group. Embarrassed

 

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Saturday, May 14, 2011 12:36 AM

Hi, my name is Andy and I am a modeling addict.  It has been 23 minutes since I fondled my kit.  Do I have to say that I did it twice because my Pz III Ausf E has arrived today? Indifferent

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I was amazed by how many parts it came in the kit but I was disheartened that I will only use less than 50% of the parts. Sad Looks like I will end up with tons of spare parts (blue marked) this time...

Also the special edition DML figures kit has arrived and they looked great.  Details were impressive... I plan to use two of them for my Pz III.

 

I am looking forward to July 1st when our support group officially kicks off...

 

Andy

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, May 14, 2011 7:24 AM

Its always good to have extra parts.  Think of the embellishments you can accomplish on future builds! Big Smile

 

 

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Posted by Hinksy on Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:45 AM

Hello guys,

My name is Ben from Rugby in England, I'm 31 years old, recently un-engaged to my girlfriend and I'm a modelling addict.

Hurrah! No interfering nagging women and modelling! Cushty!

That's a very nice looking kit Andy, I'm definately going to have to get that figure set as even though I'm not bothered about a Commander figure I REALLY like the crewman hanging out the side hatch! If I bought this figure set I could use him on my Panzer III N, I've got a StuG III A in desperate need of a decent Commander (open hatch but awful figure which needs replacing ASAP) and then a spare for the next Panzer III!

Here she is:

Note the kit supplied PE grills and turned Aluminium rifled barrel (like the Tamiya StuG III B): 

There are three suppled cammo options:

  • Leningrad winter (as depicted on the box art)
  • Kursk Summer (Dunky base with Red/Brown and Dark Green fine random lines)
  • Tunisia (Tamiya call for their paint's to be mixed to make the required colour but my main interest is in the European theatre of war, particulary the Eastern Front so I won't be considering this)

Now then, from what I can gather, the Winter scheme is a grey basecoat with patches of white. Is this white paint or would the tank have been grey and have been whitewashed? The box art shows a very neat application of white, almost as if it were done in the factory? Any suggestions guys?

I know Bill did a Tiger I in this scheme so I'll ask him what he thinks but I like the Kurst Summer scheme so I'm going to go with that (I think).

Tracks: I'm going to avoid Friuls if I can as this was a stupidly expensive kit. I asked for a proper discount as I'm one of their 'better spending' customers  at my LHS but they insisted that Tamiya prices have just gone up (again) and could only knock a few pounds off. In future I'll be shopping around before ordering as I've seen it on the web for sale between £25 to £46 new.

Including the kit tracks I've got three pairs of vinyl Panzer III 40cm tracks as I have two pairs left over from my two StuG's. I'm going to leave one pair well alone and using the other two pairs I'm going to see if I can carefully chop a few links of one of the pairs and glue them on to the other pair to 'extend' them. If this works I should be able to get a good sag going imo? The join will be under the roadwheels so it won't be visible but I'll be very neat anyway - it just depends if they join up with CA or normal glue well enough! Otherwise I'll try the normal kit tracks and failing that I'll order some MK's.

If anyone has a spare set of DS Panzer III tracks (if they make them) or unused Panzer III 40cm Magic Tracks I'll happily buy them from you? 

Anyway, apart from the figures and base which I need to order it's roll on the 1st July! I hate having unbuilt kits cluttering the place up so I start a build and finish it - I never start a new build whilst I've got one on the bench 3 quarters completed (unless there's a major reason)! I've just received the base and scenery for my StuG III B so I'll be starting on that along with the figure to go with it so I need to stretch it out until July 1st to kill some time!

ATVB

Ben Toast

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:52 AM

(Many voices responding in chorus) "Hi, Ben!"

Consider the ex a practice girlfriend.  I met SWMBO (SheWhoMustBeObeyed) when I was 30.  There's a keeper out there somewhere.  But, as you indicated this frees up time (and money) for model building!

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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