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  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, May 5, 2011 1:17 PM

detailfreak- Hey friend, I like your idea... if we are seeing more than one build for same variant, then going for different war theaters sound good.  Again, it is their build and they might already have plan in their mind but we can always encourage.  We can promise them you will be sending them cases of Beer if they follow your idea.  Big Smile

Dupes- Thank you so much doing this.  Like I said I am not an expert and I learn something every day here in the forums.  OK I will make changes to the list and combine Pz III Ausf K and Panzerbefehlswagen.  Rob (panzerwaffe) and I talked about this StuH Ausf G or StuG Ausf G 10.5 which is really the same thing.  We can use both terms if it helps? 

You are just like me and every modeler... we share same dream building every variant for StuG, Panzer III and Panzer IV.  Boy, hope we live long enough to finish them all. Tongue Tied 

I got you down for StuG III Ausf A and Beobwg... looking forward to have you aboard. Yes

Andy

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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, May 5, 2011 1:42 PM

Dupes- Hi again! Sorry I missed your third question.  Embarrassed  I am not sure why the Pz III list came with Pz J and Pz J(1) separartely.  I looked further into this and the only differnce is the gun as it was upgraded.  I googled and found no results for kit of Ausf J(1) BUT found it showed for early Ausf J. mid Ausf J and late Ausf J kits.  I am not sure what this is about... could be that late Ausf J kit is actually Ausf J(1)?

This has to be Ausf J...

Then it was upgraded to bigger & longer gun like this...

I'd love to hear your suggestion... thanks again!

Andy

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, May 5, 2011 2:26 PM

I think if you go with "J Initial" (meaning the short barreled-gun) and "J" (meaning the regular long gun for the J variant) everything should be fine. If nobody picks up the J initial, I've got one kicking around I could always throw together (hah...of COURSE I do!). 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, May 5, 2011 3:12 PM

Got my Vorp today...looks like a fantastic build. Can't wait to get this one underway!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Thursday, May 5, 2011 3:45 PM

Look what the "Brown Truck of Happiness" brought today!

Need to get to the LHS to get the appropriate Model Master paint.  I confess that I opened the boxes and checked the parts.  Promise i won't start until 1 July. Big Smile

 

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, May 5, 2011 4:29 PM
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Andy-has anyone signed up for a 15cm Sturm-Infanteriegeschutz yet?  If not, I’ll commit to one. 

If someone has, then I'll rethink my position....

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, May 5, 2011 4:31 PM

Grats, Mike! Think I might have to order that stowage set as well...looks pretty slick!

White truck of happiness brought me this little present today:

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Thursday, May 5, 2011 4:39 PM

Heh!  My wife (SWMBO) says that I should be on a first name basis with the UPS and FEDEX folks.  Kinda harsh, but i hate shopping.

Your Vorpanzer will be a jewel. Help keep Austin weird (doesn't take much). Whistling

 

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, May 5, 2011 5:36 PM

Dupes- I am with you.  I will adjust to have them listed as Ausf J Initial and Ausf J.  If you are really going to build three kits then I will do the same.  Big Smile  One year is plenty...

DoogsATX- Boy, it looks good... don't hesitate to take pictures of the sprues inside the box! It is not considering building so you are welcome to post.  Wondering if you are planning to paint your Ausf L like the artwork on the box.

MAJ Mike- That stowage set looks way too good.  Bet the stowage and barrel sets combined costs more than the Tamiya kit itself. LOL

Bobbaily- So far ogrejohn has signed up as his second build only if time permits.  So either you want to help him out or reconsider your options.  If you are into StuGs like some of us, Ausf B, E and F are still untaken. 

 

 

Andy

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Thursday, May 5, 2011 5:41 PM

Shhh!  Don't tell SWMBO.  I thought that was SOP in model building to spend more on the AM stuff than on the kit. Whistling

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, May 5, 2011 5:47 PM

deafpanzer

DoogsATX- Boy, it looks good... don't hesitate to take pictures of the sprues inside the box! It is not considering building so you are welcome to post.  Wondering if you are planning to paint your Ausf L like the artwork on the box.

MAJ Mike- That stowage set looks way too good.  Bet the stowage and barrel sets combined costs more than the Tamiya kit itself. LOL

I'll see about getting some sprue shots - there's a lot of them!

And yeah, I'm totally planning on doing the Vorp on the box. There are actually a few cool options included, but I like the gray/white of the box art the best.

Also just placed way too big an order through SB. Friuls and stowage for the Vorp, and a stowage set for my Pz.IV WIP. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, May 5, 2011 7:03 PM

deafpanzer

 

Bobbaily- So far ogrejohn has signed up as his second build only if time permits.  So either you want to help him out or reconsider your options.  If you are into StuGs like some of us, Ausf B, E and F are still untaken. 

 

 

Thanks Andy-I'll wait and see what Ogrejohn says-if he wants to go with the Strum, great and I'll take the StuG F....or we could have two Strum's....yeah...that might be the ticket....

Bob

 

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Posted by Chazzer on Thursday, May 5, 2011 9:21 PM

  DP, I'm heading to the LHS tomorrow. I gotta tell ya that I'm a bit intimidated. While I do like a challenge, my knowledge and skills are limited. Can you recommend a kit under seventy five dollars that can be built pretty much straight from the box? My LHS has a ton of kits and can get me anything I want. Maybe a Dragon smart kit?  I hate to sound virginal but this is my first serious build and I want to nail it while still having fun.

sex

Chazzer 





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Posted by MAJ Mike on Thursday, May 5, 2011 9:30 PM

For what its worth, the Tamiya kits are a pleasant build with enough detail to look good without driving you nuts.  Check the online shops for a feel about prices, but I think the Dragon kits are in the $40 range.

Remember, this is fun.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, May 5, 2011 9:40 PM

Dragon's online shop has some really nice specials. My Vorpanzer was $50, but I grabbed a King Tiger w/ zimmeritt for $30 and a Panzer II Ausf C for $20. 

Here's an Ausf N for $30: http://www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=DRA6474

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, May 5, 2011 10:52 PM

Chazzer- Nah you don't have to be intimidated.  I see great people here in our GB and they are very helpful.  I received plenty of support from others in the past GBs... I could list all names who have helped me and most of them are here.  Lucky you! Wink

If you want something easy and fun to build... I would recommend Tamiya StuG III Ausf B.  Its a new release... it is still one of my favorites.  Check Hinksy's thread... that's the one you should try if you haven't.

Nobody has signed for StuG III Ausf B...

MAJ Mike- Agree with you... go for Tamiya! Yes

DoogsATX- Thanks for the link! Beer  I have been shopping around today for Pz III Ausf E but haven't ordered yet.  Found one on sale for only $25.

Andy

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Posted by detailfreak on Thursday, May 5, 2011 11:02 PM

                           Bergepanzer III for me,also perhaps a  flammpanzer III but if someone else wants that flampanzer the'll have to pinky wrestl me for it. Just kiddin.Wink

                                                     Greg"Detailfreak"RowleyYes

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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, May 5, 2011 11:25 PM

detailfreak-  Way to go my friend.  I think you can handle two builds because I know where you live. Big Smile  Pinky wrestle with you for flammpanzer?  I will win... too easy because I will just put your beard on fire using that little flammpanzer.  Looking forward doing GB again... remember the Turretless GB?  We rocked!

I better hurry and finish my Chaffee for Korea War GB then finish Panzer IV Ausf H for Ostfront GB which I haven't started. Indifferent

Later...

Andy

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Posted by detailfreak on Friday, May 6, 2011 12:58 AM

                         Pssst,also used as a munitions schlepper.Surprise

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Posted by Hinksy on Friday, May 6, 2011 6:38 AM

Wow!

What a great response!

When Andy mentioned a possible Panzer III GB I thought it would be popular - this could be one awesome build.

Nice to see folk already getting kit's in too. I've got my Pz III Ausf. N on order and then I'll look at getting the StuG III C/D ordered later on in the year depending how much time and effort I manage to cram in the Ausf. N.

I'm really looking forward to this getting started Yes

ATVB

Ben Toast

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, May 6, 2011 10:58 AM

Chazzer!!  Got an e-mail from Dragon today.  They have "Buy one, get one 1/2 price" sale on selected models and there's a Panzer III for less than $30 and a StuG III in the same price range.  Check the sale details, that would be something to consider.  We don't start until 1 July. Big Smile

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by satch_ip on Friday, May 6, 2011 1:23 PM
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Posted by satch_ip on Friday, May 6, 2011 1:41 PM

Thanks for the tip.  Just bought the Flammenpanzer and the Pz III G Afrika Korps.

 

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, May 6, 2011 1:42 PM

I exist only to serve.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

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Posted by Chazzer on Friday, May 6, 2011 7:49 PM

 Bouncy 8  I'm in! Put me down for the Stug III Ausf "B". What a nice Tamiya kit. It's got an aluminum barrel and some PE intakes. I also picked up Tamiya's PE grille. Very exited, can't wait to start!

 

 

Scott





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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, May 6, 2011 7:56 PM

Good to hear that you found a kit you like.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Friday, May 6, 2011 8:20 PM

You guys sure are not a very good influence putting that Dragon site up!  There are a few in there on sale I have been wanting.

Rob

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, May 6, 2011 8:37 PM

Satch ip-  Thanks for the link!  I got you down for both Flammpanzer and Pz III G.  Always a big fan of Afrika Korps.  That's what I am thinking about doing for my Ausf E if it served in North Africa. 

MAJ Mike- Please get me a Beer.  Looking forward to your excellent service...

Chazzer-  Way to go!  Trust me you will enjoy this build.  It was solid and easy build.  Be careful with its periscope because it was fragile so assemble it last.  Also, I would glue the 'L' shaped brass PE holding the antenna in the rear at the end because it snapped few times during the assembling stage. 

But it is still one of my favorite builds... feel free to check my thread in Turretless GB  /forums/p/129514/1311468.aspx#1311468 and of course Hinksy's as he is working on it right now. 

Rob- I know... way too tempting to buy a kit every time we see a sale going on or a very good build.  Right now I am tempted to buy PzJager I and you know why... Big Smile

Andy

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Friday, May 6, 2011 8:40 PM

As you wish.

BeerBeer 

So that's what people meant when they thanked me for my 24 years of service.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by ogrejohn on Saturday, May 7, 2011 3:42 AM

bobbaily

 

 deafpanzer:

 

 

Bobbaily- So far ogrejohn has signed up as his second build only if time permits.  So either you want to help him out or reconsider your options.  If you are into StuGs like some of us, Ausf B, E and F are still untaken. 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Andy-I'll wait and see what Ogrejohn says-if he wants to go with the Strum, great and I'll take the StuG F....or we could have two Strum's....yeah...that might be the ticket....

 

Not a problem. I was going to do it as a second build but, giving my usual glacial speed building, I don't know if I'd be able to finish it.

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