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  • Member since
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  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 4:50 AM

Dre giood looking mig! 

I know that trumpeteer sometimes have not correct shapes of shapes, this mig is correct?

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:09 AM

bsyamato, I really can't say whether Trumpeter got the shape right or not.   Honestly, I know nothing about the MiG 3, other than this kit was on-sale and I wanted a Soviet interceptor...  something to go with all of my Bf 109's.

MAJMike- thanks, but all it requires is a really tiny paintbrush and patience.

I got a little more cockpit work done last niight- I finished the over-all detail painting, made a Milliput "seat cushion" to cover up the sink hole in the bottom of the seat and...  that's all.  I still need to source some seatbelts, paint the "seat cushion", and give it all a wash and final weathering before closing the fuselage.   Roughly 12 hours in the cockpit so far...

The "seat cushion"...  I tried to shape it like someone had put some butt-hours on it.

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 10:59 AM

Dre

MAJMike- thanks, but all it requires is a really tiny paintbrush and patience.

Well, I've got the paint brush.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 11:47 AM

Ah, grasshopper...  you're half-way there!

 

 

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 11:57 AM

Dre

Ah, grasshopper...  you're half-way there! 

Heh!  No, I think half-way-there is 'way over the horizon for me. Wink

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 12:54 PM

Way over the horizon = sneaking up on you from the rear.    Just wait and let it catch up with you instead of chasing it.Wink

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, June 3, 2011 7:01 PM

foxhound (and not only)  updates:

start to add consolles

on the picture a fantasy figure that will explain after

carefully cutting excess plastic, the cockpit fit good

tha's all for the mig.

I decided to put the foxhound in a basic diorama, just as showed in some russian parade to public.

I'll just put it in a concrete base, probably some civilia that look where putin put people moneys Big Smile

and to survey the mig put a police woman , here some good reference

So.. i don't have a set of russian police then some scratch needed.

To scratch a body in 1/72 is not so impossible, but faces are another question , then i'll use pieces frome the above elven fantasy figure from caesar miniatures

after some cut (included elves ears) take measures to scratch the legs from evergreen rod, really good to carve

 

and now thats really all, i do this waiting the glue dry on the cockpit

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Posted by castelnuovo on Saturday, June 4, 2011 2:14 AM

All right, my stash has arrived and in it was this bad boy.

So far it looks like this

Cheers...Toast

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, June 4, 2011 6:13 AM

castelnuovo

All right, my stash has arrived and in it was this bad boy.

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp140/softrun/003.jpg

So far it looks like this

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp140/softrun/002.jpg

Cheers...Toast

wishing to improve my veichle skill i'll steal some tips from yuo and mike Pirate

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:26 AM

Dre

Way over the horizon = sneaking up on you from the rear.    Just wait and let it catch up with you instead of chasing it.Wink

Hmmmm, "Zen and the Art of Model Building".  I like it.  I shall now go and become one with myT-62A. Big Smile

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, June 4, 2011 8:27 PM

cockpit updates

at the end turn on the analogic instruments version to complicate things Cool

then the early version of foxhound.

lots of test fitting are needed, heres the progress

i can assure that not maniacal 100 % ip reproduction but is fairly accurate.. as possible for me Hmm

that's all, here is about 3:30 of night .. goodnight

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Saturday, June 4, 2011 8:31 PM

bsyamato, that's some great scratchbuilding going on.  I'm definately watching this with interest.

Will post pics of my progress soon.

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, June 4, 2011 8:34 PM

bsyamato: lot of skilled scratch building there; looking forward to photos with paint, etc; looking good so far.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:10 PM

Put me in as a maybe for the moment with the trumpeter Russian Voroshilovets Tractor, a cool looking vehicle.

Terry.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:21 PM

I was able to steal some time  this past week to finish off the cockpit and the movable tail surface and get them installed inside the fuselage.  I shaved off the fuselage locating pins to get better alignment and used tape to hold it all together while it dried.  I had some Eduard preprinted PE seat belts that were left over from a previous build and mixed and matched the pieces until the belts looked credible. 

 

The cockpit, once  I finished all of the painting, got a Windsor & Newton raw umber oil paint wash for that dirty look.  I'll add another, much darker wash before I glue the canopy parts on... and some more bright-n-shiny wear patterns.  I wish I could hand-paint the dial faces on the instrument panel better- I could have gone with a decal set or some PE but have chosen to make this kit with materials at hand instead of buying more specifically for the project. 

This kit, like some other Trumpeter offerings, has posable flight surfaces.  While not at all difficult to build, they do require attention so as to not lose the small metal connecting pins.  I still need to fill some gaps before I add these to the wing....  which is going to be a treat, as you'll soon see.

Speaking of wing...  I went ahead and glued the top wing panels in place now because dry-fitting with the lower section showed a possible root gap and surface mismatch.  Honestly, the dry fit of the upper wings to the fuselage is excellent and I'd rather have any ugly bug-a-boos on the underside (out of sight).   Getting the flaps into play and maintaining a tight fit with the upper wings might get interesting.

That's a 1/32 Hasegawa FW 190A8 side project shown for scale...  this MiG 3 has some funky proportions but is about the same general size as a FW 190.  Compared to a Bf 109, the MiG 3 is markedly shorter but has a slightly wider wingspan.   

That's all for now as I'll be working to finish off the 190 before I get back to the MiG.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:24 PM

Terry, please do join us as your finished work is truly stunning.

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Saturday, June 4, 2011 9:26 PM

Dre: I'd say you are a Zen master of plastic.  The MiG is looking great. Bow Down

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, June 5, 2011 3:20 PM

Well I've had a read through the pages and I am impressed with the amount of work so far. I have noticed that a couple of people have opted for older kits, the Katyusha old Italeri, MajMike with the only T62 on the block for a long time, should be interesting to see what is made from these as many modellers on this forum have done excellent work on older kits and I'm sure it will be the same here. Dre thanks for the kind words, that Mig 3 is one of the only wingy kits I own and it is a true beauty, I must confess that I never got around to it because when I look at theh kit I feel some weird obligation to finish it in  a winter scheme and the scheme I love for it is the one without the cockpit cover, used in a camo scheme over Leningrad and looks like a Japanese Tony (I think) with the sprayed squiggle.

Well I'm gonna`head off and probably start cutting those tracks from the sprues.

Terry.

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, June 5, 2011 4:42 PM

Terry, if you have a photo of that scheme, i'd love to see it. 

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Posted by bsyamato on Sunday, June 5, 2011 7:31 PM

thanx for comment, i like to see better cockpit but unfortunately latest kit i'm building was really poor on this Dead

last month i scratched 3 cockpit and an ejection seats Crying and the fourth is coming for an harrier gr3 ... 

Really tedious but even lots of fun Propeller

To compensate today started the f-4f phantom from revell that comes with great whole cockpit and good seats!

Nice work on flaps Dre Yes

The kit allow to leave flaps movable?

then update:

main ip are finished, it took a total of 3 or four hours.

fit seems good

that's all for now, hope to finish soon the whole forward section.

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, June 5, 2011 10:24 PM

That is great work so far, I can't wait to see these painted up!

I haven't yet had a need to scratch-up a new instrument panel, but after seeing these I have a good idea about how to do it.  I'm so going to steal some of these things!

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Sunday, June 5, 2011 11:01 PM

I got back to  the MiG sooner than anticipated as because the decals on the 190 had to be done in work-and-let-dry sessions, so back to Mother Russia for a spell ... 

This morning I added a brace inside the fuselage so the lower wing assembly would fit flush and super-glued all 14 control surface hinges into the lower wing.  If you're careful, you can get all of them working well beyond MiG's intended limit!  All this needed to dry for a while so I then went back to decaling the other bird...

After finishing the Butcher Bird's decals and mowing the yard, I got back to work and have been gotten a lot accomplished... I scratched up some cosmetic pieces to cover up things I didn't like, such as an unsightly hole behind the pilot's seat.  I had thought that there might be a kit part for that location, but alas not.  It's just a ugly hole.  Using an FSM tip, I cut up an aluminum can with scissors and fashioned rivets using a sharp pointy probe.  Superglued that into place and nevermind the double-tap in the upper-right corner... the rear canopy section should minimize that nicely.

Next up was the three MG's..  The kit parts are pretty featureless and I had a better idea.  I cut 1" lengths of some 1/16" aluminum rods and then drilled out the cowling to accept them.   They are way out of scale for MG's, but I think that they will look better then even drilling out the originals.  If not, well then lesson learned.

To wrap up the day's events, I glued the lower wing into place and the brace I added working perfectly in it's intended role.  The scallop-shaped indentation and the puttied area will be covered by the radiator scoop, so clean up here will be easy.  The rear wings fit really well and were glued in, as were the various cowling panels.  Bits of tape to hold alignment was used and I think that it's starting to look like an airplane..  all that's really left to assemble is the undercarriage and underwing stores.  Possibyl some minor cosmetics in the wheel wells and that should do it for the easy part.

Green or Snow-White?  Hmm..

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Sunday, June 5, 2011 11:04 PM

Dre: Sweet! ToastWow

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Monday, June 6, 2011 10:35 AM

More WIP on the T-62A:

Hull is ready for primer coat.  Some use of PE details, not using everything in the detail kit.  As my skill level improves, I'll do more detailing.

 

 

 

Wicked seams on the aux fuel tanks and dust really shows up on this photos.  Will prime surface with flat black enamel paint and follow with Model Master "Russian Armor Green" enamel.

Thanks for looking.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by bsyamato on Monday, June 6, 2011 11:04 AM

Dre

 

 

 

After finishing the Butcher Bird's decals and mowing the yard, I got back to work and have been gotten a lot accomplished... I scratched up some cosmetic pieces to cover up things I didn't like, such as an unsightly hole behind the pilot's seat.  I had thought that there might be a kit part for that location, but alas not.  It's just a ugly hole.  Using an FSM tip, I cut up an aluminum can with scissors and fashioned rivets using a sharp pointy probe.  Superglued that into place and nevermind the double-tap in the upper-right corner... the rear canopy section should minimize that nicely.

 

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh215/DrePanzerVI/panelinplace.jpg

 

Green or Snow-White?  Hmm..

evergreen! (imho)

this will a detailed  speedbuilt!

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Nice pe on the tank mike Big Smile

curious about your way to put tracks

 

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  • From: Oklahoma USA
Posted by Khalee2 on Monday, June 6, 2011 11:08 AM

If they come in time I will go with these two kits if Ok. I'm ordering from roll models so it will be two three weeks at most before I get them.

 

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Posted by Khalee2 on Monday, June 6, 2011 11:40 AM

Well the kits are the Amodel 1/72 scale su-1 prototype and 1/72 scale I-302 rocket plane.

Sorry don't know why the images did not show up  they showed up in the preview .

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, June 6, 2011 12:38 PM

MAJMike, looking good with the PE.   Are you going to shade or modulate the Russian Green?  It ought to be relatively easy after the black base coat.  Keep it coming.

Khalee2, bring'em on!

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Monday, June 6, 2011 12:46 PM

Dre

MAJMike, looking good with the PE.   Are you going to shade or modulate the Russian Green?  It ought to be relatively easy after the black base coat.  Keep it coming.

Khalee2, bring'em on!

The "Russia Armor Green" is real green.  I may start with a straight coat in the original color, then try a lighter coat on the upper surface.  Red Army vehicles were typically stored under cover in sheds or car port-like structures, so unless they were in active operation (like in Afghanistan) there probably wasn't a lot of weathering.  They'd get dirty during maneuvers, but weathering might not be an issue.

I'll fiddle and experiment with it.  I'm still on a learning curve compared to you guys.  Thanks for the feedback.

 

 

 "I'd "I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct."

"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Monday, June 6, 2011 1:37 PM

Yeppers, Russia Armor Green can be a bright color...  I was asking more in respect to livening up the monotone green to add depth as opposed to a weathering approach.   It's fairly easy in theory- darker green for the shadow areas and a lighter green on the top surfaces.   It's something that I myself am slowly trying to incorporate in my paint jobs.

Learning curve?  I wasn't even building aircraft until last year (after a 20+ year hiatus)...  it is all patience and a willingness to try a new thing or two.  This MiG represents the most scratchbuilding that I've ever put into a kit, and compared to bsyamato's work I should pull up a chair to learn. 

Keep plugging away and asking questions, that's what we're here for after all.

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