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Big Beautiful Jugs - OFFICIAL P-47 GROUP BUILD

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Posted by Mobious on Monday, November 21, 2011 6:52 PM

DoogsATX, Finished up some work in the kitchen and repainting the General's barracks(Grandson's Room). Got a make shift bench set up in the spare room for model building. Ordered the Tamiya 1/48 P-47D Bubbletop, Alclad and Superscale decals for 353FS/354FG. Hope to be joining this GB on opening day.

 Mobious

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Posted by greentracker98 on Monday, November 21, 2011 6:36 PM

I feel  have to sign up for the Big Beautiful Jugs. I am going with Gabby Gabreski's P-47 because I live in and am from the same town he grew up in. Oil City, PA.

Thanks this is great

Ken

PS. Do we have a logo for the Big Beautiful Jugs Group Build?

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by jbrady on Monday, November 21, 2011 9:50 AM

P 47's painted with green zinc chromate were re-painted with yellow zinc chromate before they were sent over seas.

   

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, November 21, 2011 7:14 AM

I just keep giggling every time I see the thread title. (I may have something more to contribute later, tied up with some other items right now though.)

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by Geof on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:39 PM

Ok, so here's a Q regarding Gabreski's P-47... Seems there is some controversy regarding the under sides of  his plane-s. I'm planning to do the full invasion stripes and was wondering what the consensus is on the undersides. Seems the "options" are, full metal undersides, lt grey fuselage with natural metal underwings, or full lt grey underneath... Opinions? My lean is natural metal, either full or wings...

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On the Bench: Tamiya's 1/48 A-10a Thunderbolt 

In the Hangar:  Hmmm???

 

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Posted by dupes on Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:17 PM

P-47 GB? Yeah, I'm in...it's about time I built another one. Big Smile

Not sure which kit yet - either a 1/72 Hasegawa with a buttload of AM, or a 1/48 Tamiya/Academy/Hasegawa. Will get back to you!

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Posted by B17Pilot on Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:34 PM

From what I researched, P-47s used yellow zinc chromate or green zinc chromate, depending on which factory it was built in.

I used the green zinc chromate in my current P-47 build

  

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Posted by jbrady on Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:39 PM

Dull dark green is called for in the cockpit. Here's alink the P-47 part is halfway doown the page.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/02/stuff_eng_interior_colours_us_part2.htm

   

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Posted by satch_ip on Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:56 PM

Republic P-47s were painted Republic green on the interior, not the standard zinc chromate green.  One factory used zc yellow for wing interiors like gun bays and wheel wells.  One factory used zc green.   Then those were repainted zc yellow at depot level.  There is a color photo of Gabby Gabreski's plain being reloaded that shows the zc yellow.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:59 PM

After looking through some photos it seems the cockpit is a different green than the wheel wells. I will have to do more research. First time builind a P-47, learn something new every build.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:55 PM

Just bought eduard masks for a punch of my models, including the P-47 for this GB.

Im wondering, since im getting into model master paints, what color is suggested for the interior of the P-47? Usually its interior green but that seems too green. Ive been seeing a yellow chromate color but not sure the exact name or mixture to get that color. The yellow color looks soo much better for the P-47.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, November 20, 2011 6:17 PM

satch_ip

Just won on Ebay...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140642271687?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Nice score! Heck of a price for the big'un!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by satch_ip on Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:54 PM

Just won on Ebay...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140642271687?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

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Posted by jbrady on Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:26 AM

Thx Joe Rix... got them for $10.00 each... he still has two sets available.

   

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:02 PM

 You can also get them on ebay from seller sk1968sk in Poland for $14.49, includes shipping. I've purchased from him a couple of times and they arrive in approx. 1 week.

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by panzerpilot on Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:28 PM

I'll chime in: Hannats has the blast tubes, from Master Model (www.master-model.pl). Spruebrothers is sold out

-Tom

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Posted by jbrady on Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:23 PM

Hey Doogs... that was two Tamiya D's One will be "Miss Dallas", the other will be a bubble top in NMF with Invasion stripes name and unit as yet to be determined. Where did you pick up those brass blast tubes?

   

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Posted by panzerpilot on Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:58 AM

Hey guys,thanks a lot! I'll get on it. Just found out my digital camera is fubar Dead, but that's another story.

-Tom

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:56 AM

I have a "how-to" re: posting photos on my blog under the Techniques tab. I'd post the link but I'm on the iPhone at the moment. But you can get there from the link in my signature. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:30 AM

Panzerpilot,

You have to have an independent photo hosting site.  A lot of us use Photobucket, some use Flickr, I have a Fotki account as well, but it doesn't work with FSM for some reason.  I'll walk you throught the steps via Photobucket, since that is what I have. Open photobucket in another window, then upload the pic to PB.  Place your cursor on the pic you want to use, a drop down menu will appear and then click on the button that says direct link.  This will automatically copy the pics url.  FSM should be open in a separate window.  At the top of the message box, there's a row of buttons.  Click on the one that looks like a couple of frames of film.  A box will appear, right click on it and hit paste.  Your picture should be inserted into the message body.  Hope this helped.

Doogs, have the kit now.  Just need to figger out which markings.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:03 AM

DoogsATX

panzerpilot - just let me know when you decide between Tamiya and Hasegawa...and yeah the amount of AM out there is all kinds of ridiculous isn't it? Course, with so many unique and crazy schemes to pick from, it seems like the P-47 is a natural choice for decals. What I really don't understand is how there are so many Spitfire decals that are just sheet after sheet of identical markings save for a few letters and numbers... 

Doogs. I've decided on the 1/32 Hasegawa P47D. It's going to be " 'Jabo', Capt Milt Thompson, 509th Fighter Squadron, 405th Fighter Group", superscale decal set. I plan on getting the barrel set you mentioned, Eduard masks/zoom, and various other aftermarket. Alclad NM. I thought it befitting to model it "Jabo", because of the versitile nature of the P-47. I'll model the same. Bombs and rocket tubes (if available in the kit). Later, perhaps another P-47? Tamiya kit #90 "Bubbletop", with the checkerboard nose?

Incidentally, how do you post pics here? I've just finished my 1/32 FW-190D9 "yellow 10". I suppose I'll have to ask the moderator?

This is gonna be fun!!

-Tom

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:50 AM

DoogsATX

Got y'all down!

Geof - I'll probably be pretty lenient about starting a bit early. 21st is the official go-time, but if you wanted to kick off a week or so beforehand, no worries. 

Joe - Glad to oblige! As much as I love the Corsair and the PBY (they probably both make my top 5 - definitely top 10), I have to agree with the P-47! Have you ever built a Tamiya Jug before? Absolute honey of a kit. If you're picking up aftermarket, put a set of Master Models brass blast tubes way up at the top of the list - IMO they're one of the single best additions that can be made to the kit.

 Way ahead of ya Doogs. Having seen the blast tubes on your builds I ordered up a couple of sets for each of my kits, along with gun barrels for the P-38. This will indeed be mv first Tamiya P-47. Having seen this kit built up, read the reviews and then opening the box and going "Oh Momma!" made joining this GB easy. You especially have to love the P-47M kit that includes all the vertical fin inserts, engine and cockpit parts to build everything from the P-47D-25 to the P-47M. Simply Awesome.

                                                                  Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:45 AM

Thanks for joining up, gents! Y'all are up on the roster now.

panzerpilot - just let me know when you decide between Tamiya and Hasegawa...and yeah the amount of AM out there is all kinds of ridiculous isn't it? Course, with so many unique and crazy schemes to pick from, it seems like the P-47 is a natural choice for decals. What I really don't understand is how there are so many Spitfire decals that are just sheet after sheet of identical markings save for a few letters and numbers...

John - Which Tamiya? Razor, Bubble, M?

Brian - Looking forward to the Acadejug! 

jbrady - Welcome aboard! Looking very forward to your Jug!

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by jbrady on Friday, November 18, 2011 9:27 PM

Doogs:

I'm in on this if you'll have me. Two mostly OOB Tamiyas in 1/48  razor back P-47D 'Miss Dallas', 336th FS, Debden, October 1942 and a Bubble top D. Haven't figured out which one yet but it will be in NMF with invasion stripes.

   

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Posted by AceHawkDriver on Friday, November 18, 2011 7:43 PM

wouldn't mind jumping in this one myself if you still have room for one more Doogs!  just couldn't pass on the name of the group build.  I've got the P-47D Gabreski kit as well, still unsure on the markings though.  would have to work on it once i'm done with the Stug for the PZ III GB.

Peace through superior firepower.

Brian

        

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, November 18, 2011 6:59 PM

You can sign me up for a Tamiya P-47 in 1/48. 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by panzerpilot on Friday, November 18, 2011 5:18 PM

I'm in!

I have 3 Tamiya Jug kits in my stash. I've also been eyeing the 1/32 Hasegawa kit. I'm amazed at the amount of aftermarket available for jugs, particularly decals.

-Tom

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, November 18, 2011 1:49 PM

Got y'all down!

Geof - I'll probably be pretty lenient about starting a bit early. 21st is the official go-time, but if you wanted to kick off a week or so beforehand, no worries. 

Joe - Glad to oblige! As much as I love the Corsair and the PBY (they probably both make my top 5 - definitely top 10), I have to agree with the P-47! Have you ever built a Tamiya Jug before? Absolute honey of a kit. If you're picking up aftermarket, put a set of Master Models brass blast tubes way up at the top of the list - IMO they're one of the single best additions that can be made to the kit.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by JOE RIX on Friday, November 18, 2011 7:43 AM

 Alright, alright Doogs, you just had to go and start a P-47 GB. I've been sitting here lately salivating over starting either one of my 1/48 Tamiya F4U Corsairs or the 1/48 Monogram PBY Catalina for the winter and then ya go and do this. Sigh, alas I am unable to resist. So sign me up. This last year I picked up both the Tamiya 1/48 P-47D bubbletop and the P-47M along with a few sets of AM decals and accessories. So, now I'm trying to decide what to build. Currently I'm leaning towards the P-47D flown by Capt. Kenneth Dahlberg, 353rd FS/354th FG 9AF. Always liked that yellow cowling with the black skull and crossbones paint scheme. Not to mention an interesting history of the 353rd FS and their brief 4 month stint with the Jug, Nov. '44 - Feb. '45.

 This will also be my first NMF build so I'm pretty excited about getting past my reservations there.

 So. I'm past cursing you Doogs and amped about getting started.

                                                                          Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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Posted by lewbud on Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:03 PM

Doogs,

Sorry for the delay.  The RoG kit is a bubble top.  Now as for the markings, I'm thinking either Soviet or Central/South American, maybe British if I can find some appropriate decals.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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