DoogsATX

 

Bockscar:

 

 

DoogsATX:

You know what's better than one Jug?

Two Jugs.

 

Awe C'mon Doogs,

 

Is there a 'Dynamic Duo' in the works?

 

 

Looks like we might have a double-double...I'm planning a double build of "Magic Carpet" (Tamiyaback) and "The Bug" (Revellogramback)!

I was' thinkin' twins!

I ain't havin' the backround to execute, but man, It Was Your Idea!

Ahem.....nothin' like a pretty pair.......

Bockscar

 

DoogsATX:

You know what's better than one Jug?

Two Jugs.

 

Awe C'mon Doogs,

 

Is there a 'Dynamic Duo' in the works?

Looks like we might have a double-double...I'm planning a double build of "Magic Carpet" (Tamiyaback) and "The Bug" (Revellogramback)!

DoogsATX

 

Gamera:

 

Hey Doogs that is some awesome nose art (and it doesn't even have some nice lady in her birthday suit!)

Hate to bother you but I had a brain phart- I meant to say the Revell Promodeler P-47N not the Academy kit.

And you know I may be cracking up - I pulled out the Promodeler P-47N and the Tamiya P-47D and I could not decide so what the hey- please put me down for a twofer. Since both are painted mostly the same way I'll do both at once.

 

 

You know what's better than one Jug?

Two Jugs.

Is there a 'Dynamic Duo' in the works?

Gamera

Hey Doogs that is some awesome nose art (and it doesn't even have some nice lady in her birthday suit!)

Hate to bother you but I had a brain phart- I meant to say the Revell Promodeler P-47N not the Academy kit.

And you know I may be cracking up - I pulled out the Promodeler P-47N and the Tamiya P-47D and I could not decide so what the hey- please put me down for a twofer. Since both are painted mostly the same way I'll do both at once.

You know what's better than one Jug?

Two Jugs.

Hey Doogs that is some awesome nose art (and it doesn't even have some nice lady in her birthday suit!)

Hate to bother you but I had a brain phart- I meant to say the Revell Promodeler P-47N not the Academy kit.

And you know I may be cracking up - I pulled out the Promodeler P-47N and the Tamiya P-47D and I could not decide so what the hey- please put me down for a twofer. Since both are painted mostly the same way I'll do both at once.

Well...crud.

I had to swing by Hobby Lobby this morning to grab some massive sign thing the wife wants for Christmas, and saw they had the reissued Revellogram Razorback. Something like $12 after discount, and it's got some really great markings:

Might have to do a double build...

Sweet - I believe I've got everyone updated. 

I've also decided I'm going to start with Tamiya's Razorback and do "Magic Carpet"! Should be a nice break between the big Wildcat and impending "Double Stang Bang" of the Tamiya and Hasegawa 1/32 P-51s...

Just picked up Revell's P-47N Li'L Meatie's Meat Chopper of Lt Oscar Perdomo, 464 FS/507 FG.

So, I'll be doing it first.  

Mike

Sign me up! I've got a few Jugs to choose from so I don't know which to choose right now. Got 1/48's, 1/32's, and a 1/24 to consider. Good thing I gotta year to do it! OOH-WHOO! This is gonna be FUN!

DoogsATX

 

cml:

 

jbrady:

 

Fill the end you cut with epoxy. You can always drill it out after the cut.

 

 

Epoxy being super glue? or is it a putty?

Either way, that sounds like a good idea.  In fact, i wonder if i can just get a 0.03mm solid tube to insert into it and then cut.  of course, that's probably a more expensive option.

Thanks for the ideas jbrady!

 

 

Before you do that, get a piece of glass. Place tube on glass. Place a #10 blade (the curvy xacto blade) on top of tube at perpendicular angle. Move the blade back and forth so that the tubing rolls underneath it. With .005mm tubing, you'll score through in no time, without crushing.

I made a several dozen turnbuckles this way back when I was rigging by Pup:

 

summa' those diffrent long,....lol....

Hey, put some soda in that glass......

I can't participate, but saw a pair, beauties.......

an' a' look tu the lef'.....

'an thank'ya fer lookin'.....

A little P-47 music to get the creative juices flowing.

Johnny Come Lately

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Hasegawa 1/48, lot of 2, P-47D Razorback & P-51D 20th FG

Another Ebay Score!

I love Jugs...

Doogs,

You had to announce this the day after I left for vacation Back now and if you're still accepting entries please put me down, I learned a great deal from the kit I finished last month and want to apply it to a new P-47.

Not totally sure yet but probably would be going with an Academy P-47N in 1/48th.

BTW: Funny I did 'Raid Hot Mama' a couple of years ago using the 1/48th Hasegawa kit and SuperScale decals:

DoogsATX: excellent, thanks for the tip.

I'll have to venture out and get a new #10 before this GB starts.

cml

jbrady:

 

Fill the end you cut with epoxy. You can always drill it out after the cut.

 

 

Epoxy being super glue? or is it a putty?

Either way, that sounds like a good idea.  In fact, i wonder if i can just get a 0.03mm solid tube to insert into it and then cut.  of course, that's probably a more expensive option.

Thanks for the ideas jbrady!

Before you do that, get a piece of glass. Place tube on glass. Place a #10 blade (the curvy xacto blade) on top of tube at perpendicular angle. Move the blade back and forth so that the tubing rolls underneath it. With .005mm tubing, you'll score through in no time, without crushing.

I made a several dozen turnbuckles this way back when I was rigging by Pup:

jbrady

Fill the end you cut with epoxy. You can always drill it out after the cut.

Epoxy being super glue? or is it a putty?

Either way, that sounds like a good idea.  In fact, i wonder if i can just get a 0.03mm solid tube to insert into it and then cut.  of course, that's probably a more expensive option.

Thanks for the ideas jbrady!

DoogsATX

Joe - definitely check out Mushroom Media's P-47 Bubbletop (Amazon link). Apart from overall excellence (very geared toward the modeler and detailer), it also comes with full 1/72, 1/48, and 1/32 plans. 

I've also got the Aero Detail P-47 book (#14 I believe) - it's good, but too many shots of modern resto-jobs for me to be entirely comfortable with it.

Thanks Doogs. I have that very book saved in my cart on amazon. i figured that would be a sweet reference as I picked up the MM book on the Spitfire Mk Vb for the Spitfire GB and I am hugely impressed with that one.

                                                                         Joe

Fill the end you cut with epoxy. You can always drill it out after the cut.

I've seen a few reference to the blast tubes a couple of pages back.

I'm building a Tamiya - and the kit tubes seem to look ok, however, i found some brass tubing/wires at my LHS called Albion Alloys (they also advertise in FSM i've noticed).

I picked up some Albion Alloy tubing many months ago - internal diameter of 0.3mm and external of 0.5mm.

I figure, .50 cal is 12.7mm, so at 1/48, that's about .26mm internal diameter - but what is the external diameter on a .50 cal?

What to ya'll think?  Even though my tubing is slightly larger, i'm guessing most people won't be able to eyeball a 0.04mm error.

Oh, one last thing - how do i cut it without squashing it?

Oh, and a little something for anybody building a Monogram Jug...if you've ever encountered the blast tubes on those kits, they're sad things. Little sticks of plastic. My attempt at once was unfortunately foiled by ancient decals and subsequent removal attempts, but before I got into that, I modded the wings to accept some spare Tamiya blast tubes (though Quickboost resin, Master brass, or even just tubing would also work):

Full tutorial write-up HERE, if interested.

I don't remember waht I used for "All Hell" in the mighty eighth build last year (notes are a wonderful thing). I want to say I used MM interior green with a drop or two of flat black.

Joe - definitely check out Mushroom Media's P-47 Bubbletop (Amazon link). Apart from overall excellence (very geared toward the modeler and detailer), it also comes with full 1/72, 1/48, and 1/32 plans. 

I've also got the Aero Detail P-47 book (#14 I believe) - it's good, but too many shots of modern resto-jobs for me to be entirely comfortable with it.

Doogs, Since you mentioned a couple of reference books I was wondering what good refernce books folks might recommend on the Jug. I am an absolute reference book Junkie. More so than a "stash" addict. It is a part of our hobby that I really enjoy, reading and researching. Thus far I have pickd up the following books:

P-47 In Detail & Scale, Squadron, Kinzey

P-47 in Action #67, Squadron

P-47 Thunderbolt at War, William Ness, 1980

P-47 in the European Theatre, Squadron, Ernst McDowell

P-47 Aces of the 9th & 15th Air Forces, Osprey (enroute)

Any other recommendations would be appreciated.

                                                                         Joe

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Dull dark green is called for in the cockpit. Here's alink the P-47 part is halfway doown the page.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/02/stuff_eng_interior_colours_us_part2.htm

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Here's my take, after mixing a bunch of color combinations to get the shade that  IMHO most closely matched the unrestored P-47D-30-RA in Detail & Scale page 40. Testor's Flat Green and Flat Sea Blue about 50/50 look to be a good starting point over a white primer base, then darker wash for shadows and lighter drybrush or chalk for highlight or sunbleach.

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Unfortunately good cockpit pics of non-resto'd Jugs are tough to come by...I've got the Aero Detail and the recent MMI Bubbletop books, and it looks like a lot of restored bits are done in either green zinc or interior green, though the cockpit tubs remain largely DDG.

When I built "Hairless Joe" last year, I used MM Euro Dark Green and was pretty happy with the results. Depending on the pictures you use as reference, I think I could have maybe used a touch of blue. Or a touch less blue. Stupid reference pictures!

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Dull dark green is called for in the cockpit. Here's alink the P-47 part is halfway doown the page.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/02/stuff_eng_interior_colours_us_part2.htm

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Here's my take, after mixing a bunch of color combinations to get the shade that  IMHO most closely matched the unrestored P-47D-30-RA in Detail & Scale page 40. Testor's Flat Green and Flat Sea Blue about 50/50 look to be a good starting point over a white primer base, then darker wash for shadows and lighter drybrush or chalk for highlight or sunbleach.

I'll do the 1 48 scale Academy kit

jbrady

Never seen the episode of "Dogfights" you mention but I do love the look of "Magic Carpet". That pic does lead to a question... what is the color of the turtle back area? Pic looks to be streaked, faded and, color shifted (note the orange "no step" area). The turtle back almost looks to be faded OD.

The episode's probably my single favorite of the Dogfights series since it's one of the ones that sticks with a single engagement the whole time (though the F-8 "Last Gunfighter" ep is greatness, too). It's been awhile since I've watched it, but if I'm not mistaken Brulle gets involved in a treetop-level chase with a 109 where he can't get his guns low enough to get a firing solution (until he does). Considering most of the ETO dogfights took place at altitude, the ground-pounding nature of Y-29 is definitely different.

The fuselage as a whole is OD with some white ID bands on the stabilizers. Probably pretty faded and beat-up as it was operating in the 9th AF vs. the 8th, and forward-deployed to Asch, Belgium, which all records indicate had very primitive conditions.

Never seen the episode of "Dogfights" you mention but I do love the look of "Magic Carpet". That pic does lead to a question... what is the color of the turtle back area? Pic looks to be streaked, faded and, color shifted (note the orange "no step" area). The turtle back almost looks to be faded OD.

Well...I think I've narrowed my first build for this GB down to two possibilities. I'm pretty well decided on a razorback because, believe it or not, I've never built one before.

First would be Trumpy's 1/32 Razorback, done up as John Drummond's "Raid Hot Mama" of the 405th FG. There's only one decent period picture I've found of the ship, and it only shows the cowl area, so here's someone else' build:

The second would be Tamiya's 1/48 Razorback, done up as "Magic Carpet" of the 366th FG. If anybody's seen the "Legend of Y-29" episode of Dogfights, Magic Carpet figures prominently as the plane Bob Brulle took up that day, though it was actually his CO's personal ride. Love the look of the NMF cowl ring, cowl flaps, canopy and wings:

Choices, choices!

Sorry I was MIA yesterday, everyone. Got laid flat by something...best guess is the sinus infection from a few weeks back came roaring back a lot meaner after the antibiotics ran their course. New drugs are kicking in, though, so I'm at least physically alert today!

All the new entrants have been added to the roster - if you haven't provided (or decided on) kit and scale yet, just le me know at some point.

greentracker98

PS. Do we have a logo for the Big Beautiful Jugs Group Build?

Not yet - wife and kids leave for Houston today, though, so I'm hoping to get to that sometime over the next few days