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Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 1:31 PM

No cardboard derivatives either.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 20, 2012 1:22 PM

Dre

Once I heard excuse I immediately thought of the "The Front Fell Off" skit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

"Well cardboard's out...." buahahahaa!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 1:10 PM

Once I heard excuse I immediately thought of the "The Front Fell Off" skit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 20, 2012 12:54 PM

I heard a translation of that conversation on CBC Radio this morning. The next boat he sees will be in the bath-tub in jail. The best excuse he had for being in a lifeboat before everyone was off the ship???

"I tripped and fell in"...  No

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, January 20, 2012 12:31 PM

Was a totally faillure about the ship captain, a wrong rout too near at the coast. The safe of all people was possible if the sos was launched in time. Lots of discussion about these things last days.

he can expect about 15 years of jail and actually the is at house under arresting waiting for the law process.

I know is in italian but hear the conversation between the ship captain and the chief of s.a.r. operation, he intimate to back aboard the ship and take his duty.. and only when all the people was out to leave the ship! the coward instead speak lots of stupid reason to save himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDpr54i7yss

the low voice is naturally the little captain... lots of sadness for peoples like this that are in charge in important places Lightning 

 

 

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 11:52 AM

Good to see that you're keeping busy, Bsyamato.  Wouldn't want you to have too much free time...Smile

 

What's the general attitude in Italy regarding that clown captain who broke his boat?  Won't there have to be a trial due to the fact that there were fatalities?  I seem to remember reading something about Italian law that says that if there is an accidental death then there will be a trial... but I could be misremebering things.

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, January 20, 2012 10:44 AM

Sorry Dre i can't help about missiles Surprise

Vance my greif looks to me in bad way anytime i start another kit on the workbench.... fortunately not glued again the wings and the fritz-x are not operative Whistling

Before to start my 34 need to finish a zero, a macchi mc-205 ,a seabat (90% complete) the mig-31 (mig and russian GB's are started from the may of last year then end before this GB ) unfortunately the mig-31 and the macchi have lots of mods planned to do but I will forgive myself (hope the write is correct Embarrassed ) with and high detaild su-34 Toast

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 10:33 AM

Why not make life easier and just put down a wee bit of a metallic paint and then add a clear tint over that while preserving the original shape?  If they're sharply pointed then I'd round them down a little as the clear lens are more rounded than pointy.  Might be easier than cutting off the end and then rebuilding it with stuff.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 20, 2012 10:20 AM

ahhhh, I think I get it (we graphic designers are fairly visual!!). Go ahead & post some pics though. The missiles that come with the Italeri kits look to have good shape/details, but solid noses of course. At 1/72 I could probably snip off the tip, add a little paint, then a drop of clear glue & get almost the same effect.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 10:16 AM

I really need to post some pics, I can't adequately describe this..  but...

On the 1/32 missiles instead of a flat, circular surface to glue the lens onto there is a hole with a stepped lip that the lens is supposed to glue onto.  I painted the entire area flat black, used silver paint to define the lip and then added the window maker stuff to fill the hole and add something to "in there".  Then I painted the inside of the lens with the orange and once dry glued them down with more window goop.  I think that it looks fairly reasonable if not accurate... photos show the orange lens as a nasty, opaque unit but I like the transparent look.

I'll try to get pics up later tonight to show what I'm going on about...

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 20, 2012 9:53 AM

That is indeed gramps trying on the Heinkel. It is rather pencillish isn't it!? He (and I!) preferred the looks of the Me262s his unit found.

So clear orange on the whole "eye" of the seeker, or orange behind clear? I'll need to do a little research for the details.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 9:46 AM

That's a cool photo- is that your granpap?  The He-177 looks to be more of a flying pencil than the Dornier.

The missiles in my kit come in two versions- solid heads w/o seekers and with a clear lens.  A heavy dose of Tamiya clear orange for color and an even heavier dose of Testor's window stuff to glue them down.  A few developed a bubble under the clear lens but it's not so noticeable unless you look for a mistake. 

That's one of the fun issues with these birds- the Trumpy paint chart lists the missiles as all-white with the black bands to indicate a training round but online photo research indicates that the missiles are actually all sorts of black, grey, white, red and whatnot in addition to all-white.  I've been assembling a photo file of all the things that I need to get right on these missiles and everything else Flanker.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 20, 2012 9:14 AM

I picked up Airfix's old 1/72 kit this summer. And it's not challenged, it's , uhh, well, "distinct!" Wink I actually kinda like the big wingspan + only two engine nacelles.

My grandfather actually came across one while on their way to Germany:

And it's "Airfix glass" on the nose, so I doubt I'll be adding much to the cockpit unless I track down replacement parts.

Assembly line is the motto for my Flankers, the under-wing goodies for sure, and probably cockpits. The clear seeker lens - are you using plastic or drops of superglue? Something else??

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 8:58 AM

An He-177?  That's an aesthetically-challenged A/C, innit?  What scale?

I would recommend that assembly line for the missiles, especially if your kits are loaded to the box-top with ordnance like the Trumpeter kits are.  I need to post the finished missiles that I have for the other -27B... they look really sharp with their clear seeker lens. 

I'm so glad that I don't have to try and detail 1/72 stuff anymore... I can't even see things that small without help.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, January 20, 2012 8:47 AM

I'm just cracking open my He-177, which will take up a little room on "the bench", but I may start some cockpit work on the Flankers. I'm thinking about setting up my ejection seats & cockpit areas all at the same time for "economy of paint mixing", maybe the missiles as well.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Friday, January 20, 2012 8:43 AM

Bsyamato, while I had those same thoughts I'm not too worried that this GB will be flooded with new members. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more people join in, but a small group is good in it's own manageable way.

But if this GB blows up like some of the WWII-themed GB's do, then I might have to reconsider my plan...

 

 

So, who's ready to rock some kits?  I washed the ejection seats last night with a strong mix of Payne's Grey and Burnt Sienna oil paints, it might take a day or two for the oils to dry before I can flat coat them and add some metallic drybrushing.

 

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, January 20, 2012 4:00 AM

VanceCrozier

 

 Dre:

 

 

 VanceCrozier:

 

 

 

Admitting you have a problem is half the battle!

 

 

The other half?  Not caring about it!Wink

 

Actually I'm thinking of doing these 1/350 birds as doorprizes for the participants of this GB...

 

 

Opening the mail: "I swear honey, this one was just sent to me...." Whistling

LOL can be expensive if the GB will fill of partecipants especially from differents continents Whistling

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:26 PM

OK, now that's funny. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:48 PM

Dre

 

 VanceCrozier:

 

 

 

Admitting you have a problem is half the battle!

 

 

The other half?  Not caring about it!Wink

 

Actually I'm thinking of doing these 1/350 birds as doorprizes for the participants of this GB...

Opening the mail: "I swear honey, this one was just sent to me...." Whistling

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:39 PM

VanceCrozier

 

 

Admitting you have a problem is half the battle!

The other half?  Not caring about it!Wink

 

Actually I'm thinking of doing these 1/350 birds as doorprizes for the participants of this GB...

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:39 AM

Hasegawa Flanker on sale, if someone is looking for a 1/72 kit...

http://store.spruebrothers.com/172-hasegawa-sukhoi-su-27-flanker--4040-p12971.aspx

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:54 AM

Dre

I have no impulse control, none whatsoever... 

1 set each of Trumpeter's 1/350 naval birds (Su-27K and Su-33UB) should arrive sometime next week.

Admitting you have a problem is half the battle!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:12 AM

micromachines flankers? Surprise LOL

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:49 PM

I have no impulse control, none whatsoever... 

1 set each of Trumpeter's 1/350 naval birds (Su-27K and Su-33UB) should arrive sometime next week.

 

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:56 PM

Heh..  that was my thought was well- host a GB and then make the smallest model that qualifies.

I'd be afraid that someone would smack that airwing with their hand thinking that they were flies.

I might still get some just for giggles and grins and give them away at Halloween instead of candy.

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:46 PM

Dre

$12 is the nice price.   Funny, I was looking at possibly getting some of the Trumpeter 1/700 or 1/350 naval Flanker sets- 6 aircraft for $7!   

Big Smile I saw some of those (Sprue Bros maybe??) and thought that would be a neat way of entering this group, you could do a whole wing of tiny Flankers.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:41 PM

$12 is the nice price.   Funny, I was looking at possibly getting some of the Trumpeter 1/700 or 1/350 naval Flanker sets- 6 aircraft for $7!   

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:30 PM

Well I guess I've seen worse prices. But it is beyond what I'd part with for a model, and too large for me anyway. I like to keep my modern stuff at 1/72 just so it's not taking up too much space. My $12 Italeri 1/72 Flankers will do me quite well thanks! Whistling

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

Dre
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Posted by Dre on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:15 PM

It isn't any cheaper in US dollars either...Indifferent  Great Models has it at $114.   IMO, that's too much for a 1/48 kit but just right for 1/32.  Looks like a nice kit though.

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:55 PM

Nice! Toast I wonder what "1.800 Kč" converts to in CDN$

(actually, just found a converter... $92 Whistling )

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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