Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Sparrowhyperion

The fact that one of the prototypes crashed on it's way back to CA after a demo over DC didn't help either.  From what I have heard, the YB-35 was horribly underpowered and that hurt stability as well.  If they had fly by wire back then, It would have been a different story I think.

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Yes, it was in "War of the Worlds", and it dropped a nuclear bomb!  I agree, very beautiful aircraft.  After reading a little history about them, they should have been our main bombers instead of the B-36.  Apparently there was some political corruption involved with their demise.  Very sad.

Ken

Actually, the crash was during a flight test of the stall recovery.  I think what you are thinking of is the incident where 4 of the eight engines had to be shut down due to oil starvation on a return trip from Washington D.C.  But even that incident was suspected of industrial sabotage.

The YB-35 version had engine problems, actually had drive train/propeller problems that the USAF refused to fix (more political corruption!).  But it had the range, and performance.

When it was converted to jet engines making it the YB-49 the range was cut in half.  But it still had the performance.

Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

But in a 1979 videotaped news interview, Jack Northrop broke his long silence and said publicly that all Flying Wing contracts had been canceled because Northrop Aircraft Corporation refused to merge with competitor Convair at Stuart Symington's strong suggestion, because, according to Jack Northrop, Convair's merger demands were "grossly unfair to Northrop."^[8] Shortly thereafter, Symington became president of Convair upon leaving his post as Secretary of the Air Force.^[4] Allegations of political influences in the cancellation of the Flying Wing were investigated by the House Armed Services Committee, where Symington publicly denied exerting pressure on Northrop to merge.^[

 

Symington chopped up every single YB-35 and YB-49, and even refused a request to give the Smithsonian one for a donation.  The S.O.B. even had portable smelters brought to Northrop's facility, in plain sight of its employees, to have them smelted down.  I think that makes it way too obvious that it was more than just not technically sound.

Ken

Well, Swine-ington, or a swine relative that resembles this photo:

did the same to our beloved Arrow:

Okay, now I didn't realize it was the same guy!  How did he get away with all of this?  Incredible!  He should have been hanged!

Ken

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Sparrowhyperion

The fact that one of the prototypes crashed on it's way back to CA after a demo over DC didn't help either.  From what I have heard, the YB-35 was horribly underpowered and that hurt stability as well.  If they had fly by wire back then, It would have been a different story I think.

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Yes, it was in "War of the Worlds", and it dropped a nuclear bomb!  I agree, very beautiful aircraft.  After reading a little history about them, they should have been our main bombers instead of the B-36.  Apparently there was some political corruption involved with their demise.  Very sad.

Ken

Actually, the crash was during a flight test of the stall recovery.  I think what you are thinking of is the incident where 4 of the eight engines had to be shut down due to oil starvation on a return trip from Washington D.C.  But even that incident was suspected of industrial sabotage.

The YB-35 version had engine problems, actually had drive train/propeller problems that the USAF refused to fix (more political corruption!).  But it had the range, and performance.

When it was converted to jet engines making it the YB-49 the range was cut in half.  But it still had the performance.

Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

But in a 1979 videotaped news interview, Jack Northrop broke his long silence and said publicly that all Flying Wing contracts had been canceled because Northrop Aircraft Corporation refused to merge with competitor Convair at Stuart Symington's strong suggestion, because, according to Jack Northrop, Convair's merger demands were "grossly unfair to Northrop."^[8] Shortly thereafter, Symington became president of Convair upon leaving his post as Secretary of the Air Force.^[4] Allegations of political influences in the cancellation of the Flying Wing were investigated by the House Armed Services Committee, where Symington publicly denied exerting pressure on Northrop to merge.^[

 

Symington chopped up every single YB-35 and YB-49, and even refused a request to give the Smithsonian one for a donation.  The S.O.B. even had portable smelters brought to Northrop's facility, in plain sight of its employees, to have them smelted down.  I think that makes it way too obvious that it was more than just not technically sound.

Ken

Well, Swine-ington, or a swine relative that resembles this photo:

did the same to our beloved Arrow:

Okay, now I didn't realize it was the same guy!  How did he get away with all of this?  Incredible!  He should have been hanged!

Ken

Son Of Medicine Man

Sparrowhyperion

The fact that one of the prototypes crashed on it's way back to CA after a demo over DC didn't help either.  From what I have heard, the YB-35 was horribly underpowered and that hurt stability as well.  If they had fly by wire back then, It would have been a different story I think.

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Yes, it was in "War of the Worlds", and it dropped a nuclear bomb!  I agree, very beautiful aircraft.  After reading a little history about them, they should have been our main bombers instead of the B-36.  Apparently there was some political corruption involved with their demise.  Very sad.

Ken

Actually, the crash was during a flight test of the stall recovery.  I think what you are thinking of is the incident where 4 of the eight engines had to be shut down due to oil starvation on a return trip from Washington D.C.  But even that incident was suspected of industrial sabotage.

The YB-35 version had engine problems, actually had drive train/propeller problems that the USAF refused to fix (more political corruption!).  But it had the range, and performance.

When it was converted to jet engines making it the YB-49 the range was cut in half.  But it still had the performance.

Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

But in a 1979 videotaped news interview, Jack Northrop broke his long silence and said publicly that all Flying Wing contracts had been canceled because Northrop Aircraft Corporation refused to merge with competitor Convair at Stuart Symington's strong suggestion, because, according to Jack Northrop, Convair's merger demands were "grossly unfair to Northrop."^[8] Shortly thereafter, Symington became president of Convair upon leaving his post as Secretary of the Air Force.^[4] Allegations of political influences in the cancellation of the Flying Wing were investigated by the House Armed Services Committee, where Symington publicly denied exerting pressure on Northrop to merge.^[

 

Symington chopped up every single YB-35 and YB-49, and even refused a request to give the Smithsonian one for a donation.  The S.O.B. even had portable smelters brought to Northrop's facility, in plain sight of its employees, to have them smelted down.  I think that makes it way too obvious that it was more than just not technically sound.

Ken

did the same to our beloved Arrow:

Sparrowhyperion

The fact that one of the prototypes crashed on it's way back to CA after a demo over DC didn't help either.  From what I have heard, the YB-35 was horribly underpowered and that hurt stability as well.  If they had fly by wire back then, It would have been a different story I think.

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Yes, it was in "War of the Worlds", and it dropped a nuclear bomb!  I agree, very beautiful aircraft.  After reading a little history about them, they should have been our main bombers instead of the B-36.  Apparently there was some political corruption involved with their demise.  Very sad.

Ken

Actually, the crash was during a flight test of the stall recovery.  I think what you are thinking of is the incident where 4 of the eight engines had to be shut down due to oil starvation on a return trip from Washington D.C.  But even that incident was suspected of industrial sabotage.

The YB-35 version had engine problems, actually had drive train/propeller problems that the USAF refused to fix (more political corruption!).  But it had the range, and performance.

When it was converted to jet engines making it the YB-49 the range was cut in half.  But it still had the performance.

Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

But in a 1979 videotaped news interview, Jack Northrop broke his long silence and said publicly that all Flying Wing contracts had been canceled because Northrop Aircraft Corporation refused to merge with competitor Convair at Stuart Symington's strong suggestion, because, according to Jack Northrop, Convair's merger demands were "grossly unfair to Northrop."^[8] Shortly thereafter, Symington became president of Convair upon leaving his post as Secretary of the Air Force.^[4] Allegations of political influences in the cancellation of the Flying Wing were investigated by the House Armed Services Committee, where Symington publicly denied exerting pressure on Northrop to merge.^[

Symington chopped up every single YB-35 and YB-49, and even refused a request to give the Smithsonian one for a donation.  The S.O.B. even had portable smelters brought to Northrop's facility, in plain sight of its employees, to have them smelted down.  I think that makes it way too obvious that it was more than just not technically sound.

Ken

I saw a doco on the stealth bomber, and it showed a great head on shot of the YB-49 snaking all over the sky.

The fact that one of the prototypes crashed on it's way back to CA after a demo over DC didn't help either.  From what I have heard, the YB-35 was horribly underpowered and that hurt stability as well.  If they had fly by wire back then, It would have been a different story I think.

Son Of Medicine Man

Gamera

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Yes, it was in "War of the Worlds", and it dropped a nuclear bomb!  I agree, very beautiful aircraft.  After reading a little history about them, they should have been our main bombers instead of the B-36.  Apparently there was some political corruption involved with their demise.  Very sad.

Ken

Gamera

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Yes, it was in "War of the Worlds", and it dropped a nuclear bomb!  I agree, very beautiful aircraft.  After reading a little history about them, they should have been our main bombers instead of the B-36.  Apparently there was some political corruption involved with their demise.  Very sad.

Ken

Sparrowhyperion

MicroScale makes it.  Here is a link to it on eBay.  It's actually called "Micro Krystal Klear"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microscale-MICRO-KRISTAL-KLEAR-Advanced-Modeling-Liquid-/360407472446?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item53e9f5993e

Thanks, Rich! 

Sparrowhyperion

MicroScale makes it.  Here is a link to it on eBay.  It's actually called "Micro Krystal Klear"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microscale-MICRO-KRISTAL-KLEAR-Advanced-Modeling-Liquid-/360407472446?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item53e9f5993e

Dom

Striker8241

Bockscar

See those wing-tips Russ, err Glenn?

Thought I recognized your invention from somewhere before:

A different time.......same design......catching flight.......

Dom

Lol! Dom, you're too fast for me! .  That's me in the pilot's seat screaming for help...

Russ

Dang, Glenn;

Those musta' bin' excitin' times!

So, you invented wing elevators way back in the 20's, and

re-invented them again!....lol....yeah Glenn...

a good idea never sleeps.......

Dom

Ive used it once to make a window. Normally i use it to glue canopies on. The one time i used it to make a window i had to give it a dip in future to make it look right afterwards.

MicroScale makes it.  Here is a link to it on eBay.  It's actually called "Micro Krystal Klear"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microscale-MICRO-KRISTAL-KLEAR-Advanced-Modeling-Liquid-/360407472446?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item53e9f5993e

Gamera

Rich: yeah I love all those old movies, somehow they seemed more fun than most modern ones.

Russ: my bottle is spelled Micro Kristal Klear and it's by Microscale. It might be over with the model railroad suppies. Testors makes a version called window maker or something like that - seems to be the same thing.

Thanks, Cliff. I'll check it out.

Russ

Rich: yeah I love all those old movies, somehow they seemed more fun than most modern ones.

Russ: my bottle is spelled Micro Kristal Klear and it's by Microscale. It might be over with the model railroad suppies. Testors makes a version called window maker or something like that - seems to be the same thing.

Yup.  One of my favorite movies.  I am pretty sure it was the YB-49 version.  I remember the jet noise. lol 

Deadly Mantis is another one of my favorites.  Don't forget the F80s they had in it as well.

Another of my favorites was "The Magnetic Monster", I first saw a Lockheed Constellation in that flick and feell in love with the design.

And of course there's my Daughter's favorite flicks...  All of the Godzilla/Gojira movies.  You can see dozens of fighters of all kinds being munched and flamed in those. lol

Rich

Gamera

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Sparrowhyperion

Russ.  There is usually almost no, if any distortion.  You can also apply a small amount of Pledge with Future Shine on top of the dried Krystal Clear and it will level out the surface and make it glass shiny.    Just use a ver small amount of it in an eye dropper.  Put one small drop in each individual frame square and let it dry thoroughly.  This would also make it a lot stronger so it's not likely to crack or fall out.

Rich

Thanks, Rich!

I think I'm going to try it. However, I can't seem to find a product by that name on any model site. Is that the correct spelling? Who makes it?

Thanks again,

Russ

Son Of Medicine Man

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

 

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

Beautiful aircraft! I think it showed up in George Pal's 'The War of the Worlds' didn't it?

Watched the old movie 'The Deadly Mantis' this evening. Lots of great footage of F-94s, F9Fs, and F-86s. Too bad they were're too effective against a preditory insect twice the size of a B-52...

Bockscar

See those wing-tips Russ, err Glenn?

Thought I recognized your invention from somewhere before:

A different time.......same design......catching flight.......

Dom

Lol! Dom, you're too fast for me! .  That's me in the pilot's seat screaming for help...

Russ

I think my dad built the monogram one. He said is was the biggest XXXX of a kit hes ever built and the decals were about 6 scale inches thick and an absolute mare to lay down.

I watched a show on the B-2 Bomber and they talked about the YB-35 and YB-49.  Now I want to build both.  Totally cool looking planes:

Of course they would have to be done in NMF!

Ken

See??!! You know what day it is! I didn't know that!

Bummer, Dom!  I hope they do you right, bud.

Russ

No worries!!  Carry overs are definitely allowed!  We will just keep going until we run out of kits!

Ken

Scorpiomikey

This thing has an end date? I though we were just gonna keep going till we run out of stuff to build.

Yeah, what us who are just here for conversation and never build anything?

I walked past the box with the A-20 about fifty times this week and still haven't gotten the blasted thing out and finished it.

This thing has an end date? I though we were just gonna keep going till we run out of stuff to build.

Hi Everyone!

I am making progress on the cockpit.  I have been taking lots of pictures.  It is late so I will post them tomorrow.  Just so you guys know, I plan on having this bird done by the end of this build.  Which reminds me.

It seems that December is when the most announcements for new group builds are made for the following year.  I am for sure planning on having a "Second Annual Berny Memorial Group Build".  I hope most of you are going to join.  I can't imagine having it without any of you!  Of course it won't start until February on Berny's birthday just like before.

Ken

Scorpiomikey

I hate yearly reviews. Theyre so horrible and stressful and they suck so bad. Except the payrise bit. If the company makes a profit in the financial year, we all get a payrise.

I agree, the yearly reviews DO suck!  A lot of stress indeed!  I feel for you Dom!

Ken

I hate yearly reviews. Theyre so horrible and stressful and they suck so bad. Except the payrise bit. If the company makes a profit in the financial year, we all get a payrise.

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Gosh,

I know what day tomorrow is,,,,

another day at work!

I take it work is not going well for you?

Ken

It is going okay, but I have to go through three steps during my yearly review,

it's like re-applying every year for my job, contract workers understand.

It's a bit stressful....as you yourself know.

Dom

Bockscar

Gosh,

I know what day tomorrow is,,,,

another day at work!

I take it work is not going well for you?

Ken