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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:33 PM

Gosh,

I know what day tomorrow is,,,,

another day at work!

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:29 PM

Scorpiomikey

I KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS, its today.

Big Smile

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:29 PM

Yes

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:27 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

Hey, Dom,

Here's something that I designed and my wife made for me that may help you at least save those small parts that fly off the desk. It's a piece of cloth with some elastic along the front that attaches to your worktable with velcro and hooks.

The elastic keeps the material pressed against your waist and the velcro allows you to remove it for cleaning. The elastic sticks out at either end and is tied to two hooks. The adhesive sides of the velcro are stuck up under the edge of the worktable.

I have mine cut at an angle because it fits my work area better but you could use hinged arms with latches if you wanted a more rectangular or square shape.

Hope this helps,

Russ

 

Russ,

That's pretty nifty......were you Glenn Curtiss in a former life?Geeked

Dom

Hi Dom,

Why, yes I was! How did you know? But I got tired of all the money and prestige so I opted for this life of a retired out-of-shape electronics tech with no idea what day it is Big Smile.

Russ

See those wing-tips Russ, err Glenn?

Thought I recognized your invention from somewhere before:

A different time.......same design......catching flight.......Smile

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:27 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

Hey, Dom,

Here's something that I designed and my wife made for me that may help you at least save those small parts that fly off the desk. It's a piece of cloth with some elastic along the front that attaches to your worktable with velcro and hooks.

The elastic keeps the material pressed against your waist and the velcro allows you to remove it for cleaning. The elastic sticks out at either end and is tied to two hooks. The adhesive sides of the velcro are stuck up under the edge of the worktable.

I have mine cut at an angle because it fits my work area better but you could use hinged arms with latches if you wanted a more rectangular or square shape.

Hope this helps,

Russ

 

Russ,

That's pretty nifty......were you Glenn Curtiss in a former life?Geeked

Dom

Hi Dom,

Why, yes I was! How did you know? But I got tired of all the money and prestige so I opted for this life of a retired out-of-shape electronics tech with no idea what day it is Big Smile.

Russ

That's funny!  That made me laugh!  Big Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:27 PM

I KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS, its today.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:10 PM

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

Hey, Dom,

Here's something that I designed and my wife made for me that may help you at least save those small parts that fly off the desk. It's a piece of cloth with some elastic along the front that attaches to your worktable with velcro and hooks.

The elastic keeps the material pressed against your waist and the velcro allows you to remove it for cleaning. The elastic sticks out at either end and is tied to two hooks. The adhesive sides of the velcro are stuck up under the edge of the worktable.

I have mine cut at an angle because it fits my work area better but you could use hinged arms with latches if you wanted a more rectangular or square shape.

Hope this helps,

Russ

 

Russ,

That's pretty nifty......were you Glenn Curtiss in a former life?Geeked

Dom

Hi Dom,

Why, yes I was! How did you know? But I got tired of all the money and prestige so I opted for this life of a retired out-of-shape electronics tech with no idea what day it is Big Smile.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:09 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

Hey, Dom,

Here's something that I designed and my wife made for me that may help you at least save those small parts that fly off the desk. It's a piece of cloth with some elastic along the front that attaches to your worktable with velcro and hooks.

The elastic keeps the material pressed against your waist and the velcro allows you to remove it for cleaning. The elastic sticks out at either end and is tied to two hooks. The adhesive sides of the velcro are stuck up under the edge of the worktable.

I have mine cut at an angle because it fits my work area better but you could use hinged arms with latches if you wanted a more rectangular or square shape.

Hope this helps,

Russ

 

Russ,

That's pretty nifty......were you Glenn Curtiss in a former life?Geeked

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:42 PM

Hi, Ken,

Nah, I'm retired - and besides, I'm too lazy Big Smile.

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:39 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

Hey, Dom,

Here's something that I designed and my wife made for me that may help you at least save those small parts that fly off the desk. It's a piece of cloth with some elastic along the front that attaches to your worktable with velcro and hooks.

The elastic keeps the material pressed against your waist and the velcro allows you to remove it for cleaning. The elastic sticks out at either end and is tied to two hooks. The adhesive sides of the velcro are stuck up under the edge of the worktable.

I have mine cut at an angle because it fits my work area better but you could use hinged arms with latches if you wanted a more rectangular or square shape.

Hope this helps,

Russ

 

Hi Russ,

You should probably look into filing a patent on that!  Seriously!  I bet you could make some money off of that idea!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:40 AM

Bockscar

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

 

Hey, Dom,

Here's something that I designed and my wife made for me that may help you at least save those small parts that fly off the desk. It's a piece of cloth with some elastic along the front that attaches to your worktable with velcro and hooks.

The elastic keeps the material pressed against your waist and the velcro allows you to remove it for cleaning. The elastic sticks out at either end and is tied to two hooks. The adhesive sides of the velcro are stuck up under the edge of the worktable.

I have mine cut at an angle because it fits my work area better but you could use hinged arms with latches if you wanted a more rectangular or square shape.

Hope this helps,

Russ

 

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:31 AM

Russ.  There is usually almost no, if any distortion.  You can also apply a small amount of Pledge with Future Shine on top of the dried Krystal Clear and it will level out the surface and make it glass shiny.    Just use a ver small amount of it in an eye dropper.  Put one small drop in each individual frame square and let it dry thoroughly.  This would also make it a lot stronger so it's not likely to crack or fall out.

Rich

Striker8241

Bockscar

Striker8241

Hi, All,

I made a first pass at covering the gunner's canopy. I first tried using the clear celophane from a bag in the kit, but none of my glues would stick to it. So I tried food wrap - it worked pretty well, although it's difficult to get the film stretched evenly over the panes without spreading the glue into the clear parts. The cellophane was actually better because it is stiffer and conforms to the frame better.

I'll keep experimenting to find the best material and glue. Fortunately, it's relatively easy to clean up and start over. One thing - with this canopy, you can see any internal details clearly with no distortion Big Smile.

Cheers,

Russ

Russ:

i hope I didn't send way down the wrong path, I was actually thinking a rigid film, like acetate, super glued in the corners and placed under the frame, sealed with acrylic.

Actually don't want to see such a great bit of scratch "Flat-Topped" (i.e. "Scratch one Flat-Top")

Also, Ken and I both think just leaving the frame 'as-is' is a reasonable option, it is all about showing off the good work, so just leaving the frame "non-glazee" or "no-glass" is innovative and really gives everyone a great view of your work.

i have vac and original.....Whistling

dom

Dom,

No problem, bud! I appreciate all you guys' suggestions and comments. I really like the appearance of the built-up frame but I don't think there is a viable option to fill the panels with anything that looks good. Krystal Clear is probably the best option but I suspect there will be distortion there too, which is what I'm trying to avoid.

I think you and Ken are right about just leaving the frame open. From a distance at this scale, it's not to far fetched - they would really be clean windows though Big Smile.

I wil look at doing the same thing for the front canopy.

Thanks, Guys,

Russ 

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:28 AM

Ya know Dom...  You just gave me an idea.  What about an attachment for or modified pair or sprue cutters with a small set of springy clamp heads attached to them in such a way that when you close the sprue cutters on the piece you are cutting off, the clamp heads gently hold it so it can't fly off into neverneverland..?

Bockscar

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:23 AM

Bockscar

Striker8241

Hi, All,

I made a first pass at covering the gunner's canopy. I first tried using the clear celophane from a bag in the kit, but none of my glues would stick to it. So I tried food wrap - it worked pretty well, although it's difficult to get the film stretched evenly over the panes without spreading the glue into the clear parts. The cellophane was actually better because it is stiffer and conforms to the frame better.

I'll keep experimenting to find the best material and glue. Fortunately, it's relatively easy to clean up and start over. One thing - with this canopy, you can see any internal details clearly with no distortion Big Smile.

Cheers,

Russ

Russ:

i hope I didn't send way down the wrong path, I was actually thinking a rigid film, like acetate, super glued in the corners and placed under the frame, sealed with acrylic.

Actually don't want to see such a great bit of scratch "Flat-Topped" (i.e. "Scratch one Flat-Top")

Also, Ken and I both think just leaving the frame 'as-is' is a reasonable option, it is all about showing off the good work, so just leaving the frame "non-glazee" or "no-glass" is innovative and really gives everyone a great view of your work.

i have vac and original.....Whistling

dom

Dom,

No problem, bud! I appreciate all you guys' suggestions and comments. I really like the appearance of the built-up frame but I don't think there is a viable option to fill the panels with anything that looks good. Krystal Clear is probably the best option but I suspect there will be distortion there too, which is what I'm trying to avoid.

I think you and Ken are right about just leaving the frame open. From a distance at this scale, it's not to far fetched - they would really be clean windows though Big Smile.

I wil look at doing the same thing for the front canopy.

Thanks, Guys,

Russ 

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 26, 2012 9:45 PM

What would be even better than the bug is a tool not yet invented, called the "Fly"

It catches all those tiny parts that go flying out of tweezers, out of the Bug, off the desk, and

off the end of an XActo when you clip the twit off the sprue....now that would be useful.

Dom

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    August 2009
  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Monday, November 26, 2012 9:33 PM

I usually find that when it comes to using specialist tools, I get the same results with common tools used differently.  For bends I either use the back of an exacto blade, a metal ruler or square edge, or various size drill bits.  I just wrap them around it.  For cutting. an X-acto blade is all I ever need.  I just don't think they are worth the added expense.

Rich

Scorpiomikey

Hey does anyone here use a specialised tool to work with your photoetch?  Like the bug or something? Im looking at getting one and id like your thoughts.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, November 26, 2012 9:12 PM

Scorpiomikey

Hey does anyone here use a specialised tool to work with your photoetch?  Like the bug or something? Im looking at getting one and id like your thoughts.

Hi Scorpio Mike,

I have purchased "The Bug", but have had limited use with it.  Nothing more than just basic square 90 degree bends.  For my seat belts I used varying sized drill bits to bend and shape.  I would like to learn how to use "The Bug" for the more complex tasks it was intended for, but just have not had the opportunity yet.  It seems to be a sturdy tool.

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, November 26, 2012 8:49 PM

Hey does anyone here use a specialised tool to work with your photoetch?  Like the bug or something? Im looking at getting one and id like your thoughts.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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    February 2010
  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 26, 2012 5:56 PM

Scorpiomikey

OOOOHHH use sandwhich wrap, stretch it drum tight, then poke tiny holes on the frames and brush some glue in (White glue should be enough) it should be enough to hold it.

Yeah, maybe try a hair-dryer to get the shrink wrap effect, it will tighten, but inwards bubble, if you know what I mean. May make a lens effect.Huh?

dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 26, 2012 5:54 PM

Striker8241

Hi, All,

I made a first pass at covering the gunner's canopy. I first tried using the clear celophane from a bag in the kit, but none of my glues would stick to it. So I tried food wrap - it worked pretty well, although it's difficult to get the film stretched evenly over the panes without spreading the glue into the clear parts. The cellophane was actually better because it is stiffer and conforms to the frame better.

I'll keep experimenting to find the best material and glue. Fortunately, it's relatively easy to clean up and start over. One thing - with this canopy, you can see any internal details clearly with no distortion Big Smile.

Cheers,

Russ

Russ:

i hope I didn't send way down the wrong path, I was actually thinking a rigid film, like acetate, super glued in the corners and placed under the frame, sealed with acrylic.

Actually don't want to see such a great bit of scratch "Flat-Topped" (i.e. "Scratch one Flat-Top")

Also, Ken and I both think just leaving the frame 'as-is' is a reasonable option, it is all about showing off the good work, so just leaving the frame "non-glazee" or "no-glass" is innovative and really gives everyone a great view of your work.

i have vac and original.....Whistling

dom

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, November 26, 2012 5:17 PM

OOOOHHH use sandwhich wrap, stretch it drum tight, then poke tiny holes on the frames and brush some glue in (White glue should be enough) it should be enough to hold it.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:51 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Russ,

Maybe you can just play the "Emperor who wore no clothes" card!  Just tell everyone there IS glass there, but it is so clear you can't see it!  And if they try to reach out to touch it, slap their hands and tell you don't want finger prints on the glass!!  Big Smile 

Ken

Lol, I guess we all thought of that - it would certainly make my job easier Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:45 PM

Hi Russ,

Maybe you can just play the "Emperor who wore no clothes" card!  Just tell everyone there IS glass there, but it is so clear you can't see it!  And if they try to reach out to touch it, slap their hands and tell you don't want finger prints on the glass!!  Big Smile 

Ken

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    April 2012
  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:37 PM

Hi, All,

I made a first pass at covering the gunner's canopy. I first tried using the clear celophane from a bag in the kit, but none of my glues would stick to it. So I tried food wrap - it worked pretty well, although it's difficult to get the film stretched evenly over the panes without spreading the glue into the clear parts. The cellophane was actually better because it is stiffer and conforms to the frame better.

I'll keep experimenting to find the best material and glue. Fortunately, it's relatively easy to clean up and start over. One thing - with this canopy, you can see any internal details clearly with no distortion Big Smile.

Cheers,

Russ

 

 

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:25 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well as I promised, here are the photos of where I am at.

~

Tomorrow when the epoxy is completely set, I will file the sides flush with the cockpit sides, then epoxy the rear scope in place.

Ken 

 

Really nice work, Ken! Yes Yes  Great paint and decal job!

Russ

Thank you Russ!  I appreciate it!

(Actually that is not a decal, but photo etch  Whisper )  Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:06 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well as I promised, here are the photos of where I am at.

~

Tomorrow when the epoxy is completely set, I will file the sides flush with the cockpit sides, then epoxy the rear scope in place.

Ken 

 

Really nice work, Ken! Yes Yes  Great paint and decal job!

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:20 PM

Bockscar

1/48!!!!

That's huge.....lol.....Surprise

Sorry for the bad short-term, err short-term, errr.....short-term watch-ma-callit....lolSmileDunce

Dom

I think there's a joke in there somewhere!  Big Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:15 PM

1/48!!!!

That's huge.....lol.....Surprise

Sorry for the bad short-term, err short-term, errr.....short-term watch-ma-callit....lolSmileDunce

Dom

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:07 PM

Thank you Dom for the compliments!  I appreciate it!

(It's 1/48 scale though WhisperSmile 

Ken

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:01 PM

Ken,

That is very fine work indeed!

Great details in that cockpit!Yes

I like all the black wiring out the back of those panels......Yes

All you need now are 1/72 fingerprints Ken.......Smile

Dom

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