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First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 8:37 PM

Bockscar

Hey, an added bonus for Russ,

the pin gives the wheel a chrome hubcap!Smile

Yup. Fits right in with the late 50's Big Smile Reminds me of my first car - a Pontiac sedan.  0-60 in December...

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, November 9, 2012 7:50 PM

Hey, an added bonus for Russ,

the pin gives the wheel a chrome hubcap!Smile

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 7:32 PM

Thanks, Ken! I really appreciate the good words!

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, November 9, 2012 6:44 PM

Striker8241

B-52D outriggers:

I've never been happy with the way they did the outrigger wheels on this model - the wheels are molded together with the strut yokes. I know they did this for strength so the outriggers could support the pressure from the sloped wings. Any type of plastic axel that could support the weight would have to be oversized - anything smaller would break.

 I decided to remedy the problem. I happened to have the main gear wheels from an old 1/72 F-4 model that were just about the right diameter. They are a little thick, but I you can't have everything Smile.

 For the axels, I used a common sewing pin. I inserted a pin through each wheel with the head on the outside hub and glued it into the wheel, making sure the pin was perpendicular to the wheel all around.

 

Next, I carefully cut away the wheels from around the yokes. If you use a spru cutter, be careful not to deform the yoke. Then I cleaned out and sanded the yokes. I drilled a hole the size of the pin through each yoke at the axel point.

 

NOTE: If you plan to flatten your wheels, do not glue them to the struts at this time. Wait until the model is ready to stand on its feet and then attach the wheels so you can match the flat spot to the tilt of the wings.

Once the glue around the pin is hardened, insert each wheel through the hole in the axel and cut off the excess pin, then glue it in place. I also plan to glue the inside of the wheel to the strut for added strength. You will also need to file down and finish the hub on the outside of the yoke.

 Cheers,

Russ

 

Nice work once again Russ!  You are doing one heck of a job scratching out those parts!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, November 9, 2012 5:59 PM

Striker8241

B-52D outriggers:

I've never been happy with the way they did the outrigger wheels on this model - the wheels are molded together with the strut yokes. I know they did this for strength so the outriggers could support the pressure from the sloped wings. Any type of plastic axel that could support the weight would have to be oversized - anything smaller would break.

Once the glue around the pin is hardened, insert each wheel through the hole in the axel and cut off the excess pin, then glue it in place. I also plan to glue the inside of the wheel to the strut for added strength. You will also need to file down and finish the hub on the outside of the yoke.

 Cheers,

Russ

Nice work there Russ!Yes

They never painted those outriggers up in Hawaiian colours,

did they?Smile

I don't think anyone other than the super-geeks will spot they

are from a 1/72 F-4. By the way, nice drilling job there,

yeah, you get a pass for Grade 9 shop pal!!!GeekedCool

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, November 9, 2012 5:54 PM

Rich:

Very nasty situation bud, sorry to her you've been so sick.

There's a new Mechano kit out there  the "Cat Harvestor"

maybe should take a look out for that for Christmas.

Looking forward to the P-51, take it easy pal,

Dom

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, November 9, 2012 3:41 PM

Hi folks.

Sorry I have not been on for the last few days.  I made a huge mistake Tuesday when I took my wife to McDonalds for our anniversary.  I wasn't yet 100% and I got to spend the last few days even worse than I was before.  Today is the first time I have felt like even getting out of bed.

I haven't been able to get any work done on the Phantom yet.  And thanks to one of my wife's cat, it may be a while before I do.  Lets just say she ate too much and then had to , well you know...  All over the box to my 1/32 Hasegawa P-51D kit.  So I decided I better do that one before the parts all get lost on me.  I really wasn't ready for this one, and I'm going to have to substitute colors for some of the recommended ones, but at least it's large scale.  I'll be starting it as soon as I am able to stay up for more than 30 minutes without having to lie down again.  I have got to get rid of this bug before next Tuesday or I won't be able to do anything for my Daughter's Bday.  I am thinking of possibly snagging her an NOS Aurora kit of Godzilla that I saw on eBay.  The one with the glow in the dark parts option.  I'll have to see how much it gets to be on eBay.  She had mentioned maybe wanting to start her own build on FSM for what she called the "Mutant Monster Mania Group Build".  So if I can snag it for her, she will be all set.  She's been a little angel all week while I have been sick.  Of course I don't know if it's that she is genuinely worried about me, being a teen and all; or if it's just advance sucking up for her Bday and Xmas...  LOL

I'll try and stay in touch as much as possible.  I should have some P51 work done in a few days.

Rich

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 3:20 PM

Thanks, Cliff! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 9, 2012 1:51 PM

Russ: all that work looks awesome!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 10:24 AM

B-52D outriggers:

I've never been happy with the way they did the outrigger wheels on this model - the wheels are molded together with the strut yokes. I know they did this for strength so the outriggers could support the pressure from the sloped wings. Any type of plastic axel that could support the weight would have to be oversized - anything smaller would break.

 I decided to remedy the problem. I happened to have the main gear wheels from an old 1/72 F-4 model that were just about the right diameter. They are a little thick, but I you can't have everything Smile.

 For the axels, I used a common sewing pin. I inserted a pin through each wheel with the head on the outside hub and glued it into the wheel, making sure the pin was perpendicular to the wheel all around.

Next, I carefully cut away the wheels from around the yokes. If you use a spru cutter, be careful not to deform the yoke. Then I cleaned out and sanded the yokes. I drilled a hole the size of the pin through each yoke at the axel point.

 

NOTE: If you plan to flatten your wheels, do not glue them to the struts at this time. Wait until the model is ready to stand on its feet and then attach the wheels so you can match the flat spot to the tilt of the wings.

Once the glue around the pin is hardened, insert each wheel through the hole in the axel and cut off the excess pin, then glue it in place. I also plan to glue the inside of the wheel to the strut for added strength. You will also need to file down and finish the hub on the outside of the yoke.

 Cheers,

Russ

 

Tags: B-52D , gear , outrigger

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, November 9, 2012 5:18 AM

Bockscar

Hey Ken:

I cut n' pasted a few of the above entries into Russ's  

1/72 B-52D with Big Belly Mod, Operation Arc Light

thread, some contained your commentary, I hope that is okay.

Dom

Of course it is okay Dom!  No problem!  Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:03 PM

Hey Guys,

Here's a really interesting account by a test pilot of flying the B-52 during flight test and development. It gives some insight into how cantankerous the plane was.

www.jetbombers.com/chapter5.html

The guy writes with a unassuming humerous style and some of the things he describes are hilarious.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:18 PM

Striker8241

Dom,

It does look like they are rounded toward the center. This may be a later modification possibly to strengthen the feathers. So maybe tapering them isn't so far from real world.

Russ

Russ:

i think you got it right on both counts. Given the shots above, they must have tapered them.

They may even have put those mod reinforcements on to prevent the feathers from over stressing to extend the life of older birds.

I any case, you wouldn't want to build a gross of those tiny little bumps then glue all those little bastiges in place,

you would be blind before your time.Blind Fold

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:55 PM

Dom,

It does look like they are rounded toward the center. This may be a later modification possibly to strengthen the feathers. So maybe tapering them isn't so far from real world.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:52 PM

Hey Ken:

I cut n' pasted a few of the above entries into Russ's  

1/72 B-52D with Big Belly Mod, Operation Arc Light

thread, some contained your commentary, I hope that is okay.

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:22 PM

Big Brother:

http://rbogash.com/B47.html

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:19 PM

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:17 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Hey Russ, I've been looking at that spoiler shot you provided:

 What I am seeing is that the top of each feather on the spoiler has a re-enforcement, like a small bubble ridge that goes from the back edge up past the feather root and a few inches back from that. Maybe to stop those feathers from ripping off?

you can see the arch and shadows of those ridges if you blow up the photo.

Am I seeing things?

Dom

No, no, no.  I think you are way off base there Dom.  I think they are back scratchers!  Big Smile 

Ken

Errrr, that's very embarrassing Ken;

I thought I was the only one who used 'em fer that!Big Smile

See Themza' onez' bent up an' all like that?

they'za the wons' wot hit warts.....Ick!Big Smile

Hey:

There's a great shot of the upward wing flex:

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:05 PM

Bockscar

Hey Russ, I've been looking at that spoiler shot you provided:

 What I am seeing is that the top of each feather on the spoiler has a re-enforcement, like a small bubble ridge that goes from the back edge up past the feather root and a few inches back from that. Maybe to stop those feathers from ripping off?

you can see the arch and shadows of those ridges if you blow up the photo.

Am I seeing things?

Dom

No, no, no.  I think you are way off base there Dom.  I think they are back scratchers!  Big Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:30 PM

Hey Russ, I've been looking at that spoiler shot you provided:

 What I am seeing is that the top of each feather on the spoiler has a re-enforcement, like a small bubble ridge that goes from the back edge up past the feather root and a few inches back from that. Maybe to stop those feathers from ripping off?

you can see the arch and shadows of those ridges if you blow up the photo.

Am I seeing things?

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:07 PM

mikeymize

  Hi all, in between work and sleep managed to get some of the front office done. Used the MM Russian interior color and am relatively happy with it. Also, I got a little something in the mail today which made me very happyBig Smile Included is a pic of that and what I had been using. I'll still use the cheap one as needed or at least till I get somewhat proficient with my beloved Badger Patriot. I'm looking forward to doing so many schemes that I was unable to before. Time for me to catch up on my reading; enjoy the pics!

Looks nice, Mike! And congratulations on the new air brush! Balloons

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:03 PM

mikeymize

  Hi all, in between work and sleep managed to get some of the front office done. Used the MM Russian interior color and am relatively happy with it. Also, I got a little something in the mail today which made me very happyBig Smile Included is a pic of that and what I had been using. I'll still use the cheap one as needed or at least till I get somewhat proficient with my beloved Badger Patriot. I'm looking forward to doing so many schemes that I was unable to before. Time for me to catch up on my reading; enjoy the pics!

Hi Mike M.,

Nice work on the cockpit!  Good detail work!  Yes  Yes 

Cool air brush!  Dual action!  That is all I have ever used, so I know no different.  With a little practice you will get used to it.  Congratulations on the purchase!  I am sure you can't wait to try it out!

Ken

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Posted by mikeymize on Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:45 PM

  Hi all, in between work and sleep managed to get some of the front office done. Used the MM Russian interior color and am relatively happy with it. Also, I got a little something in the mail today which made me very happyBig Smile Included is a pic of that and what I had been using. I'll still use the cheap one as needed or at least till I get somewhat proficient with my beloved Badger Patriot. I'm looking forward to doing so many schemes that I was unable to before. Time for me to catch up on my reading; enjoy the pics!

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:44 AM

Spoiler update:

Dom brought up a good point - thanks Dom!   The B-52D spoiler feathers were actually flat, as you can see in the photo below, just like they were rendered in the kit. On the other hand, the spoiler body was really tapered but the kit rendered it flat.

To compensate and keep the spoiler even with the top of the wing, I ended up tapering the feathers.

The other alternative would be to keep the spoiler assembly and feathers flat as they are (but you would still need to thin the feathers) and not add the piece at the bottom of the spoiler slot - but then you would then need to add a piece to the top of the spoiler to fill the slot, then re-scribe the whole thing. I decided not to do that.

Since the picture above, I further thinned the feathers so it's hard now to see that they are slightly tapered. You have to be careful not to get them too thin or they'll break off. Being tapered slightly makes them a little stronger.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:33 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Are you ready for another episode from Ken's Chop Shop?  As promised, tonight we are doing the other main wheel bay. 

~

Ken 

Looking good, Ken!   Chop away Lol Big Smile

Russ

Thanks Russ!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Are you ready for another episode from Ken's Chop Shop?  As promised, tonight we are doing the other main wheel bay. 

~

Ken 

Looking good, Ken!   Chop away Lol Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:25 PM

Scorpiomikey

Someone on here once told me Aires was greek for doesnt fit. You seem to be making them bits fit rather nicely.

Thanks Scorpio Mike!

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:13 PM

Someone on here once told me Aires was greek for doesnt fit. You seem to be making them bits fit rather nicely.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:50 PM

Hi Everyone,

Are you ready for another episode from Ken's Chop Shop?  As promised, tonight we are doing the other main wheel bay.  Here is a shot of the original wheel bay along with the Aires resin update piece:

Here is the view from the other side:

Once again I started off with cutting the majority of the plastic out with the Dremel using the cutting bit:

Here is the view from the other side:

And once again from this point I used a flat file and a lot of test fitting to remove the remaining plastic until I got the piece to fit:

 

And here is the view from the other side:

 Here is the what the hole looked like when I was finished:

 And once again the view from the other side:

That is all for tonight's episode!  Stay tuned for more from Ken's Chop Shop!

Ken 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:38 PM

Bockscar

Down-right balmy, Ken,

thanks for asking....seen any good-looking wheel wells

walking around here lately?....Whistling

Dom

Dom you still crack me up!  Big Smile 

Ken

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