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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:56 PM

Ken: dang, I didn't know you were cutting ALL the control surfaces off, as I've said before she's gonna really be something worn done.

MikeM: nice work there. Btw seems that recent research is showing panzers in the Battle of France had dark brown camo patches randomly applied. Tigerman's Blitz GB had more discussion on this.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:47 PM

Striker8241

That is going to look cool. Good job, Ken!

Russ

Thank you Russ!

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:40 PM

That is going to look cool. Good job, Ken!

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:36 PM

Hi Everyone,

Its like all I am doing is chopping on this kit!  At this rate I don't think there is going to be much left when I am done!  Tonight I worked on the right wing flap and aileron.  Here is a picture of the top wing section with the flap and aileron held on with tape so it is not align perfectly:

 Here is a picture of the bottom wing section before I chopped on it:

 Here is the same section chopped:

 And here is the bottom with the flap and aileron in place with tape to get an idea of how it is going to look:

I still need to clean up the cuts with some sanding but I think the resin pieces are going to look pretty cool!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:27 PM

Scorpiomikey

Oh i dunno, ive had her for 6 years now. itle be 7 in april. I think its time for her to run for re-electionStick out tongue

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:23 PM

Oh i dunno, ive had her for 6 years now. itle be 7 in april. I think its time for her to run for re-electionStick out tongue

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:38 PM

Yeah I wish I could find one like that, don't let her get away SMike !

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:00 PM

Scorpiomikey

lol my partner felt sorry for me yesterday because i cant build models at the moment. So she bought me some pull back card models. 3 aircraft and a car.

That sort of thing, but bigger and with pull back function.

Now that is a thoughtful girlfriend Scorpio Mike!  I would say that makes her a keeper.

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:48 PM

lol my partner felt sorry for me yesterday because i cant build models at the moment. So she bought me some pull back card models. 3 aircraft and a car.

That sort of thing, but bigger and with pull back function.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:03 AM

mikeymize

I have decided to get started on the HobbyBoss MiG-17 1/48 scale. It will be Soviet markings /NMF. First though I must finish up a side project, something I don't normally build: armor. ~

That's gonna look neat, Mike. I haven't built any armor kits since the 60's. My last kit was the Renwal Atomic Cannon. I think it was 1/32 scale but it was really big (about 3 ft long with the tractors connected). Sure wish I still had it... Sad.

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:59 AM

Striker8241

Very cool, Ken! Those are gonna look great! 

I wish your mom the very best, Ken. I'll keep her in my prayers.

Russ

Thank you Russ, I really appreciate it.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:56 AM

Scorpiomikey

I need to rebuild my model desk....ill get there.

I understand Scorpio Mike.  I am sure it will be nice when it is done!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:54 AM

Bockscar

Russ,

It's true, if we stopped to document and trace very part to exact scale, we would never get finished.

Yours is the only bomb transport set I've ever seen, so i would cut you some "Aurora License"

if it is a bit out of scale! A lot of work yes, but I'm glad you pulled it off.

I gotta say, dang fine work for a guy whom bills himself a relative beginner.Toast

Dom

Thanks, Dom! Big Smile Toast

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:51 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Today I took my Mom to the doctor's office where she had a scope put down her throat to check out the hernia to see what the surgeon was going to deal with.  He said it was pretty big and he is still recommending that she has the surgery.  She will learn more when she goes back to see him next week to discuss it with him.

I went to order the wheel wells from Sprue Brothers first thing this morning and was surprised to find that they now carry the Zoukei-Mura product line!  Very cool!  So I could not resist ordering the new 1/32 A-1J Skyraider along with my wheel wells!  They should be here Wednesday!

I did get a little work done at the workbench this evening.  The resin flaps and ailerons by Wolfpack are very nice but as with most resin aftermarket sets, the directions are very limited.  The first thing I had to do was lay the pieces out and get them oriented as to what went where.  Here is the right wing:

Now these pieces do not match the lines on the Hasegawa parts, so I will need to be very careful about lining everything up and cutting.  The next thing I did was cut off the resin mold stubs and cleaned up the pieces:

 

That is all I had time for tonight.

Ken

 

Very cool, Ken! Those are gonna look great! 

I wish your mom the very best, Ken. I'll keep her in my prayers.

Russ

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, October 29, 2012 10:38 PM

I need to rebuild my model desk....ill get there.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 29, 2012 9:29 PM

mikeymize

I have decided to get started on the HobbyBoss MiG-17 1/48 scale. It will be Soviet markings /NMF. First though I must finish up a side project, something I don't normally build: armor. Shouldn't be too challenging as I'm doing it all in Panzer Grey; can't imagine late-war camo or Zimmerit! Anyway the MiG will begin this week end. Will post pics then. Look forward to learning and enjoying this GB.

Hi Mike,

I have never built armor myself but that looks pretty good so far!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, October 29, 2012 9:03 PM

mikeymize

I have decided to get started on the HobbyBoss MiG-17 1/48 scale. It will be Soviet markings /NMF. First though I must finish up a side project, something I don't normally build: armor. Shouldn't be too challenging as I'm doing it all in Panzer Grey; can't imagine late-war camo or Zimmerit! Anyway the MiG will begin this week end. Will post pics then. Look forward to learning and enjoying this GB.

Mike;

I haven't seen armor in ages....

I...must...hold....backkk.....

Otherwise I'll be cracking open a Panzer here and a Sherman there.....

Nice detailing on the suspension springs.

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, October 29, 2012 8:58 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Today I took my Mom to the doctor's office where she had a scope put down her throat to check out the hernia to see what the surgeon was going to deal with.  He said it was pretty big and he is still recommending that she has the surgery.  She will learn more when she goes back to see him next week to discuss it with him.

I went to order the wheel wells from Sprue Brothers first thing this morning and was surprised to find that they now carry the Zoukei-Mura product line!  Very cool!  So I could not resist ordering the new 1/32 A-1J Skyraider along with my wheel wells!  They should be here Wednesday!

I did get a little work done at the workbench this evening.  The resin flaps and ailerons by Wolfpack are very nice but as with most resin aftermarket sets, the directions are very limited.  The first thing I had to do was lay the pieces out and get them oriented as to what went where.  Here is the right wing:

Now these pieces do not match the lines on the Hasegawa parts, so I will need to be very careful about lining everything up and cutting.  The next thing I did was cut off the resin mold stubs and cleaned up the pieces:

 

That is all I had time for tonight.

Ken

 

Ouch Ken!

All the best to her and you. That is a true yeoman's task and dedication.

Aarff! that aileron re-fit is a challenging bit of work you "have cut out for you".......

Dom

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Posted by mikeymize on Monday, October 29, 2012 8:55 PM

I have decided to get started on the HobbyBoss MiG-17 1/48 scale. It will be Soviet markings /NMF. First though I must finish up a side project, something I don't normally build: armor. Shouldn't be too challenging as I'm doing it all in Panzer Grey; can't imagine late-war camo or Zimmerit! Anyway the MiG will begin this week end. Will post pics then. Look forward to learning and enjoying this GB.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, October 29, 2012 8:51 PM

Russ,

It's true, if we stopped to document and trace very part to exact scale, we would never get finished.

Yours is the only bomb transport set I've ever seen, so i would cut you some "Aurora License"

if it is a bit out of scale! A lot of work yes, but I'm glad you pulled it off.

I gotta say, dang fine work for a guy whom bills himself a relative beginner.Toast

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 29, 2012 8:41 PM

Hi Everyone,

Today I took my Mom to the doctor's office where she had a scope put down her throat to check out the hernia to see what the surgeon was going to deal with.  He said it was pretty big and he is still recommending that she has the surgery.  She will learn more when she goes back to see him next week to discuss it with him.

I went to order the wheel wells from Sprue Brothers first thing this morning and was surprised to find that they now carry the Zoukei-Mura product line!  Very cool!  So I could not resist ordering the new 1/32 A-1J Skyraider along with my wheel wells!  They should be here Wednesday!

I did get a little work done at the workbench this evening.  The resin flaps and ailerons by Wolfpack are very nice but as with most resin aftermarket sets, the directions are very limited.  The first thing I had to do was lay the pieces out and get them oriented as to what went where.  Here is the right wing:

Now these pieces do not match the lines on the Hasegawa parts, so I will need to be very careful about lining everything up and cutting.  The next thing I did was cut off the resin mold stubs and cleaned up the pieces:

 

That is all I had time for tonight.

Ken

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, October 29, 2012 8:25 PM

Bockscar

By the way, did you make a paper outline-pattern fora all the individual parts of those bomb-transport & lifter units, you know, to sell on Ebay or to your pals?....lol....jess' wondrin'Smile

No, I didn't, bud. Primarily because overall, the height of the lift trailer is not to 1/72 scale - I had to scale it to the small wheel set and they were larger than they should be, so the overall height of the trailer is greater than scale. I could never get an accurate measurement of the width of the trailer so I suspect it is also out of scale. BTW, I already sent you the instructions for the transport trailer.

As for the parts, I have some notes with dimensions but no templates. I was moving too fast. I used a lot of leftover parts that resembled some of the small wheelset steering gear and what I could see of the lift assembly and just cludged them together until they looked halfway realistic.

I still plan to redo the bomb clip trailer if I can find the right size wheels, but I doubt I will build another bomb lift trailer, which is what I would need to do to get a decent set of measurements and drawings. It was really a lot of work and I was glad to get finished with it Big Smile.

Russ 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 29, 2012 8:21 PM

Bockscar

Striker8241

mikeymize

Just curious, how will you "open" the avionics bay and please don't say "real carefully". I wouldn't know how to do it without screwing up the surrounding area. BTW, before reading your plans for this Phantom I thought my plane was going to be a challenge.......best of luck!

Good question, Mike. I'm curious too. I've tried this myself with somewhat successful results, but I'm sure there's a better way. I marked out the area to remove with a dark pen on the outside, then held the plastic up to a bright light and copied it to the inside. Then I cut through from the inside using a sharp exacto knife.

It worked so so, but I think it's because I cut directly on the line. If I try it again, I will cut inside the line, then trim and sand to the final dimensions. How do you plan to do it, Ken?

Cheers,

Russ

Russ, that's what I mean when I say 'educated guesses.' That was a good idea marking it and candling it like that, in the next evolution the 'education' you got from the the first cut oughta' make the second try even closer. I don't know how you got it so close the first time, I woulda' gone through a few practice airplanes myself before i got it right.....Indifferent

Yeah, 'education by a thousand cuts'....lol.....we earn ours by doing....lolBang Head

By the way, did you make a paper outline-pattern fora all the individual parts of those bomb-transport & lifter units, you know, to sell on Ebay or to your pals?....lol....jess' wondrin'Smile

Ken and I took pictures of this P&W engine in Dayton, I'll try to find a couple, and yes Ken, it powered the B-50 and many others:

http://www.456fis.org/PRATT_&_WHITNEY_4360_WASP_MAJOR.htm

Dom

Totally cool video Dom!!!  That is awesome!  It gives me goosebumps!  I would love to be there in person.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, October 29, 2012 7:36 PM

Striker8241

mikeymize

Just curious, how will you "open" the avionics bay and please don't say "real carefully". I wouldn't know how to do it without screwing up the surrounding area. BTW, before reading your plans for this Phantom I thought my plane was going to be a challenge.......best of luck!

Good question, Mike. I'm curious too. I've tried this myself with somewhat successful results, but I'm sure there's a better way. I marked out the area to remove with a dark pen on the outside, then held the plastic up to a bright light and copied it to the inside. Then I cut through from the inside using a sharp exacto knife.

It worked so so, but I think it's because I cut directly on the line. If I try it again, I will cut inside the line, then trim and sand to the final dimensions. How do you plan to do it, Ken?

Cheers,

Russ

Russ, that's what I mean when I say 'educated guesses.' That was a good idea marking it and candling it like that, in the next evolution the 'education' you got from the the first cut oughta' make the second try even closer. I don't know how you got it so close the first time, I woulda' gone through a few practice airplanes myself before i got it right.....Indifferent

Yeah, 'education by a thousand cuts'....lol.....we earn ours by doing....lolBang Head

By the way, did you make a paper outline-pattern fora all the individual parts of those bomb-transport & lifter units, you know, to sell on Ebay or to your pals?....lol....jess' wondrin'Smile

Ken and I took pictures of this P&W engine in Dayton, I'll try to find a couple, and yes Ken, it powered the B-50 and many others:

http://www.456fis.org/PRATT_&_WHITNEY_4360_WASP_MAJOR.htm

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, October 29, 2012 9:41 AM

Cool! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 29, 2012 6:11 AM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Striker8241

Wow, Ken! Sounds like there won't be much of the original kit left when you finish adding all the aftermarket stuff Big Smile.

Russ

I feel the same way!  There is not going to be much that is original.  But look at what you are doing!  You are doing a bunch of scratch building yourself on that B-52D!

Ken

 
Touche! Big Smile   But what I'm doing is more repairs and additions - you're replacing just about the whole front end which is more of a challenge since it all has to fit together in a confined space. I'll be watching with great interest just how this evolves.
 
Too bad they don't have a tactical radar package add-on. It would look cool to have the nose radome swung back to show the antenna.
 
Russ

Actually Russ, the Verlinden detail set does!  Big Smile

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 29, 2012 6:08 AM

Striker8241

mikeymize

Just curious, how will you "open" the avionics bay and please don't say "real carefully". I wouldn't know how to do it without screwing up the surrounding area. BTW, before reading your plans for this Phantom I thought my plane was going to be a challenge.......best of luck!

Good question, Mike. I'm curious too. I've tried this myself with somewhat successful results, but I'm sure there's a better way. I marked out the area to remove with a dark pen on the outside, then held the plastic up to a bright light and copied it to the inside. Then I cut through from the inside using a sharp exacto knife.

It worked so so, but I think it's because I cut directly on the line. If I try it again, I will cut inside the line, then trim and sand to the final dimensions. How do you plan to do it, Ken?

Cheers,

Russ

Hi Russ and Mike,

Russ, that is a real good way of doing it.  But I am lucky in this instance in that the detail set includes a photo-etch overlay that goes right on top of the outline of the avionics bay opening.  So I can use that as a stencil.  I will lay that on the fuselage and draw the outline of where I need to cut.  And since I have become accustomed to using the Dremel to making my cuts, I will use it to make the initial cut, staying well within the lines.  Then I will finish the hole with a metal flat file.

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, October 29, 2012 6:03 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Striker8241

Wow, Ken! Sounds like there won't be much of the original kit left when you finish adding all the aftermarket stuff Big Smile.

Russ

I feel the same way!  There is not going to be much that is original.  But look at what you are doing!  You are doing a bunch of scratch building yourself on that B-52D!

Ken

 
Touche! Big Smile   But what I'm doing is more repairs and additions - you're replacing just about the whole front end which is more of a challenge since it all has to fit together in a confined space. I'll be watching with great interest just how this evolves.
 
Too bad they don't have a tactical radar package add-on. It would look cool to have the nose radome swung back to show the antenna.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, October 29, 2012 5:37 AM

Bockscar

Ken:

Having a plan is a good way to go, very complex build you've undertaken, and that "shoe horning" is about educated guesses and lots of patience,

right about now I'm not sure if i have patience, or just lots of laziness....

Speaking of complex, how's this for a 28 cylinder radial engine (give or take 4 cylinders):

 I'll bet that baby ran smooth.....

Dom

 
Wow! There's a mechanic's nightmare! Big Smile.  Cool picture, Dom!
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, October 29, 2012 5:32 AM

mikeymize

Just curious, how will you "open" the avionics bay and please don't say "real carefully". I wouldn't know how to do it without screwing up the surrounding area. BTW, before reading your plans for this Phantom I thought my plane was going to be a challenge.......best of luck!

Good question, Mike. I'm curious too. I've tried this myself with somewhat successful results, but I'm sure there's a better way. I marked out the area to remove with a dark pen on the outside, then held the plastic up to a bright light and copied it to the inside. Then I cut through from the inside using a sharp exacto knife.

It worked so so, but I think it's because I cut directly on the line. If I try it again, I will cut inside the line, then trim and sand to the final dimensions. How do you plan to do it, Ken?

Cheers,

Russ

 

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