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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:22 AM

Thats lookin pretty nice, one thing about watching other people do a build is you learn so much.

All moved in, now its time to unpack. Your all more than welcome to pop in for the house warming. It coincides with birthday celebrations. Drinkies and a BBQ at ours.\What do you mean bugs? theres Monterey Bay Bugs but theyre aussie. (Monterey Bay Bugs are a bottom dwelling crustation about the size of your hand, the meats quite sweet)

most likley saussies and steak or something. Maybe a bit of venison.

If anyones gonna be in the local area (chch NZ) PM me and we can sort something out.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:45 PM

Striker8241

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I have the hole enlarged enough in the other fuselage for the auxiliary air intake to fit through.  I went ahead and fit the pieces together so that I could get an idea of how it was shaping up.  Here is how it looks so far (nothing is glued):

 

I will need to enlarge the original openings in the wing on the outboard sides so that the inside rail is showing like the other two parallel ones are.  I will also have to thin the plastic in the wing so there isn't a gap showing.

Ken

 
Great job, Ken!  Makes me want to work on mine, but I've got to finish this big beast first. First things first... Big Smile.
 
Russ
 
 

Thank you Russ!  I am the same way, I will only work on one project at a time.  Of course my project is no where near as big as yours!

Ken

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:34 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

I have the hole enlarged enough in the other fuselage for the auxiliary air intake to fit through.  I went ahead and fit the pieces together so that I could get an idea of how it was shaping up.  Here is how it looks so far (nothing is glued):

 

I will need to enlarge the original openings in the wing on the outboard sides so that the inside rail is showing like the other two parallel ones are.  I will also have to thin the plastic in the wing so there isn't a gap showing.

Ken

 
Great job, Ken!  Makes me want to work on mine, but I've got to finish this big beast first. First things first... Big Smile.
 
Russ
 
 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:28 PM

Bockscar

Russ:

Here's an index of sites with a few BUFF D's:

www.stratofortress.org/preservation.htm

 
Hey, thanks Dom!  I've probably been to a lot of these but it's nice to have a complete list.
 
Thanks again,
 
Russ

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:19 PM

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

 

I will need to enlarge the original openings in the wing on the outboard sides so that the inside rail is showing like the other two parallel ones are.  I will also have to thin the plastic in the wing so there isn't a gap showing.

Ken

Ken, they really add depth, literallyYes

Dom

Thanks Dom!  I am thinking about adding some wire to represent the hydraulic lines that are in those pictures.

Ken

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:02 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

 

I will need to enlarge the original openings in the wing on the outboard sides so that the inside rail is showing like the other two parallel ones are.  I will also have to thin the plastic in the wing so there isn't a gap showing.

Ken

Ken, they really add depth, literallyYes

Dom

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:59 PM

Ken:

I figure if your scratch that actuator, you are in like flint!

Key words for the search were <f-4 auxillary air intakes>

The other pics I posted from the thread site didn't come out.

Dom

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:57 PM

Hi Everyone,

I have the hole enlarged enough in the other fuselage for the auxiliary air intake to fit through.  I went ahead and fit the pieces together so that I could get an idea of how it was shaping up.  Here is how it looks so far (nothing is glued):

 

I will need to enlarge the original openings in the wing on the outboard sides so that the inside rail is showing like the other two parallel ones are.  I will also have to thin the plastic in the wing so there isn't a gap showing.

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:49 PM

Bockscar

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://i22.servimg.com/u/f22/14/22/55/57/183_1010.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ipmsmalta.forumotion.net/t1260p15-1-32nd-tamiya-f-4-phantoms&h=600&w=800&sz=185&tbnid=cIA2LkttHIUQRM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&zoom=1&usg=__YQa_wdWtHMOoVWm6JLLa5SfcIEg=&docid=r3BrD40j8I-40M&sa=X&ei=yiyLUNP4Laiw0QHCtYGIDg&ved=0CE8Q9QEwBQ&dur=526

Way too cool, check this out:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/101-200/walk133_F4F_phantom/walk133.htm

Thank you Dom!  Those are some great pictures!

Ken

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:32 PM

Dom: wow those are some photos

And thanks guys. The hurricane is supposed to keep moving up coast till it hits the mid-Atlantic states so I'm fine down here. Funny, it's windy as heck but no rain. Surf is wild though, I've got some photos but I'm not sure yet how to link photobucket pics to this site. This new Droid phone I'm posting with is great but wish they'd given a real manual. Guess I should look for one online.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:31 PM

Russ:

Here's an index of sites with a few BUFF D's:

www.stratofortress.org/preservation.htm

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:17 PM

Bockscar

Way too cool, check this out:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/101-200/walk133_F4F_phantom/walk133.htm

 

Wow! Great link, Dom. Thanks!!  Darn, wish they had something like this for the B-52D...
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:09 PM

Gam:  Thanks, bud! Enjoy your vacation!

Ken, Dom: You're most welcome, guys!

Dom: I know that feeling - I guess it's magic... Smile

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, October 26, 2012 7:43 PM

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://i22.servimg.com/u/f22/14/22/55/57/183_1010.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ipmsmalta.forumotion.net/t1260p15-1-32nd-tamiya-f-4-phantoms&h=600&w=800&sz=185&tbnid=cIA2LkttHIUQRM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&zoom=1&usg=__YQa_wdWtHMOoVWm6JLLa5SfcIEg=&docid=r3BrD40j8I-40M&sa=X&ei=yiyLUNP4Laiw0QHCtYGIDg&ved=0CE8Q9QEwBQ&dur=526

Way too cool, check this out:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/101-200/walk133_F4F_phantom/walk133.htm

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Friday, October 26, 2012 7:15 PM

Russ: Thanks for that info, another item to make it look more accurateYes Given the wrinkles on that grand old lady's face, I would say you definitely did not over-do your detailing, it'll look great when done. So I just checked and had to pick up my BUFF, why do I always feel like a kid again when I pick up an airplane?Smile

Ken: I think it's going to look good even if they aren't super accurate. I thought Berny had taken a picture of an open Aux when we were in Dayton, but I couldn't find it.

Rich: That is a huge gap! It sounds as though it were a three piece, but how could it be? Hey, I blew up a Munice 4-Speed tranny, the stick was over-worn and it was in third, not first, when I popped the clutch at high rpm's.....427 Rochester QuadraJet, I could see the parts literally blow through the weedsAngry...lol....I wasn't laughing at the time though, I'm sure you didn't find the wheel ripped off your car very funny back then either...We hope your doctor's visit wasn't too painful.

Cliff: errr.....thank gosh you didn't get tagged by a piece of roofing material!.....I hear it can change a guy's perspective on things....lol

Mike: Please invite us all over for the housewarming....lol.....and put some of those big juicy bugs on the barby for us.....lol

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 26, 2012 6:51 PM

Gamera

Btw guys: I'm currently on my vacation/holiday in 'sunny' Florida with a hurricane ripping up the Atlantic coast. Was on the beach about an hour ago and it was crazy windy, I could barely walk against it. Still the storm is supposed to skip here and hit down in NY so I think I'm safe here. Crazy weather though.

Hi Cliff,

I hope the hurricane is gone before your vacation is!

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 26, 2012 6:47 PM

Striker8241

Guys,

Just FYI, the ram air intake port at the left wing root is not rendered correctly, at least on my B-52D model. The model has it extending into the upper wing, similiar to the input port near the pylon. However, the port should only be on the lower wing root, as shown below. To correct this, you'll need to fill in the upper section.

Russ 

Cheers,

Russ

Thank you for the information Russ!

Ken

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 26, 2012 6:27 PM

Btw guys: I'm currently on my vacation/holiday in 'sunny' Florida with a hurricane ripping up the Atlantic coast. Was on the beach about an hour ago and it was crazy windy, I could barely walk against it. Still the storm is supposed to skip here and hit down in NY so I think I'm safe here. Crazy weather though.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 26, 2012 4:26 PM

Dom: good luck! I've found there doesn't seem to be any such thing as a simple or cheap car repair

Russ: wow you're doing all sorts of improvements to that kit. Keep up the good work!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:32 AM

Ouch Dom.  I had a 1974 Chevy Malibu Station Wagon when I was younger.  It was my first car.  A huge beast of a thing with a big V8 engine.  I was married to my first wife at the time and she was out driving it and the master cylinder let go.   Luckily she didn't hit anyone, which for her was surprising in and of itself.  They had to tow it back to our place and I had to go to the junk yard and find a replacement and put it in myself.  It was not good...  That car went through a lot of parts.  Radiator, Master Cylinder, 2 alternators, a full set of chocks, and a starter.  Oh yeh and the engine timing chain cover which was the only repair that was covered under the warranty...  That car finally died on route 128 in Manchester MA.  Driving down the highway I heard a funny noise so I pulled into the break down lane to find out what it was.  I didn't see any problems so I started up again and was just about to pull back out on the Highway when I heard this huge BANG!  I swear I thought someone shot us with an RPG it was so loud and the car immediately started pulling to the left.  I managed to keep it roughly straight and stopped again in the break down lane.  I got out and looked and I saw my left rear wheel and part of the axle rolling across the highway and into the woods on the other side.  It also ripped open my gas tank when it blew off.  That was the end of my first car....  And my last $20 worth of gas.

Back on topic.  I'm going to try and get some more work done on the Hobby Boss kit today after I get back from the Doctor's office.  I have a major issue with the front landing gear doors.  When closed, they seem to leave a gap a full 1/4" wide between them.  So I will be doing some bashing to fix the situation.  All the other doors fit like a glove though.  I can't make up my mind on using sheet styrene or just trying to putty it.  Putty would have the advantage of giving a bit more weight to the nose.  I'll keep you all posted.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 26, 2012 9:19 AM

Guys,

Just FYI, the ram air intake port at the left wing root is not rendered correctly, at least on my B-52D model. The model has it extending into the upper wing, similiar to the input port near the pylon. However, the port should only be on the lower wing root, as shown below. To correct this, you'll need to fill in the upper section.

Russ 

Cheers,

Russ

Tags: B-52D , air intake

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, October 26, 2012 8:39 AM

Bockscar

I lost my master cylinder on a 400 series highway this afternoon,

drove home with 1/4 of brake before I hit the floor boards....

gotta crawl in real early and park it at the service station.....Ga Dang!

 
Ack!  Be careful, bud!
 
Russ

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, October 26, 2012 5:36 AM

Bockscar

I lost my master cylinder on a 400 series highway this afternoon,

drove home with 1/4 of brake before I hit the floor boards....

gotta crawl in real early and park it at the service station.....Ga Dang!

That had to be a scary ride Dom!  Hopefully it won't cost too much to fix.

Ken

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:41 PM

I lost my master cylinder on a 400 series highway this afternoon,

drove home with 1/4 of brake before I hit the floor boards....

gotta crawl in real early and park it at the service station.....Ga Dang!

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:37 PM

Mike:

Better to make fertilizer than become fertilizer!

Yikes!!!

Air pocket??

Dom

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:48 PM

Hi Everyone,

After researching the Aires auxiliary air intakes, I found that the detail is not all that accurate.  In fact, they actually lack a lot of it.  So there is not a real correct side for how they are installed, just as long as the engine and bulkheads are in the correct orientation.  With that, I have one fuselage hole finished cut out:

I will work on the other side tomorrow.

Ken 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:45 PM

Wow Mike, that was a close call!  I bet the pilot and the boom operator needed a fresh pair of underwear after that!

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:44 PM

Bockscar

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Ken;

Nice work, but I missed how you are going to figure out the correct orientation.

Dom

Yes, I got involved with working on it before I rememberd to take any pictures.  What I did was I took a couple of rubber bands and put them around the fuselage halves to hold them together.  Then I took the wing and held it in place against the bottom of the fuselage while I used a fine point felt tip marker to outline the holes that I had opened up in the wings last night.  After that I removed the wing and rubber bands and used the Dremel to cut the holes.

Ken

So Ken;

i couldn't make out which way the boxes point in the fuselage. That is, which one is port, which one is starboard, and how you can tell the front of the box from the back end.

No worries about the photos Ken, we appreciate what you can post. I figure I probably spend more time taking pics than making cuts these days.Smile

Dom

Hi Dom,

That is the reason I was doing the research in the book.  The pieces are mirror images of each other.  It is obvious about the fact that it is the engine inside on how to orient the pieces, but there are other parts that will make a difference which side it is on.  Unfortunately my book has several pictures of the auxiliary air intakes but with the engines removed.  I will have to keep looking.

Ken

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:44 PM

Hey guys, move is going slower than we hoped. But were getting there.

A while ago you guys were talking about the buff and i remember seeing a B-52 screwing up an inflight refuel, i searched and searched for the video, couldnt find it, however i came accross this when i ducked into work today.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

  • Member since
    February 2010
  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:11 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Ken;

Nice work, but I missed how you are going to figure out the correct orientation.

Dom

Yes, I got involved with working on it before I rememberd to take any pictures.  What I did was I took a couple of rubber bands and put them around the fuselage halves to hold them together.  Then I took the wing and held it in place against the bottom of the fuselage while I used a fine point felt tip marker to outline the holes that I had opened up in the wings last night.  After that I removed the wing and rubber bands and used the Dremel to cut the holes.

Ken

So Ken;

i couldn't make out which way the boxes point in the fuselage. That is, which one is port, which one is starboard, and how you can tell the front of the box from the back end.

No worries about the photos Ken, we appreciate what you can post. I figure I probably spend more time taking pics than making cuts these days.Smile

Dom

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