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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:09 PM

Striker8241

Nice going, Ken! I plan to order that intake detail kit soon and I'll get this one too if they have it.

Russ

Thank you Russ for the compliment!

I am not sure that the auxiliary air intakes are available in 1/72 scale.  They just came out in 1/48 scale last year.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:03 PM

Bockscar

Ken;

Nice work, but I missed how you are going to figure out the correct orientation.

Dom

Yes, I got involved with working on it before I rememberd to take any pictures.  What I did was I took a couple of rubber bands and put them around the fuselage halves to hold them together.  Then I took the wing and held it in place against the bottom of the fuselage while I used a fine point felt tip marker to outline the holes that I had opened up in the wings last night.  After that I removed the wing and rubber bands and used the Dremel to cut the holes.

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:56 PM

Nice going, Ken! I plan to order that intake detail kit soon and I'll get this one too if they have it.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:50 PM

Ken;

Nice work, but I missed how you are going to figure out the correct orientation.

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:38 PM

Hi Everyone,

I got a late start tonight but made some progress.  I marked the location for the holes in the fuselage where the auxiliary air intake boxes should go and made the first cut:

 

I also cut off the resin mold stubs from the boxes:

I also spent some time researching my "The Modern Phantom Guide:  The F-4 Phantom Exposed" to get more of an idea of how it should look when it is done.

Ken 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:32 PM

Bockscar

Ken:

Yeah, and this one is made of platinum:

www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php

Dom

Wow!  Surprise

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:16 PM

Sparrowhyperion

Thanks for the links Dom, but for the foreseeable future, I won't even be buying paint or glue.

That's real bummer Rich.

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:15 PM

Ken:

Yeah, and this one is made of platinum:

www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php

Dom

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:06 PM

Thanks for the links Dom, but for the foreseeable future, I won't even be buying paint or glue.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:58 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Rich:

Here's a link for the burner set for about $26 including postage:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIRES-1-48-4361-FGR-2-Phantom-exhaust-nozzles-for-hasegawa-reveii-kit-/230827540771?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item35be64c123

Here's Sprue Bros link for the resin:

http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/ars4361.htm

Those Hasegawa 1/48 FGR.2 must be made of pure gold, starting at $56:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hasegawa-1-48-BRITISH-PHANTOM-FGR-2-TRANSATLANTIC-ALCOCK-AND-BROWN-/170928590006?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item27cc234cb6

Dom

At least the guy selling the Hasegawa kit thinks it is pure gold!  I noticed that no one has bid on it yet.  But of course it isn't over yet.  It will be interesting to see if anyone does.

Ken

I just noticed that it is located in Japan and the shipping is another $18.00.  Gold with titanium trim!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:56 PM

Bockscar

Rich:

Here's a link for the burner set for about $26 including postage:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIRES-1-48-4361-FGR-2-Phantom-exhaust-nozzles-for-hasegawa-reveii-kit-/230827540771?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item35be64c123

Here's Sprue Bros link for the resin:

http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/ars4361.htm

Those Hasegawa 1/48 FGR.2 must be made of pure gold, starting at $56:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hasegawa-1-48-BRITISH-PHANTOM-FGR-2-TRANSATLANTIC-ALCOCK-AND-BROWN-/170928590006?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item27cc234cb6

Dom

At least the guy selling the Hasegawa kit thinks it is pure gold!  I noticed that no one has bid on it yet.  But of course it isn't over yet.  It will be interesting to see if anyone does.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:36 PM

Rich:

Here's a link for the burner set for about $26 including postage:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIRES-1-48-4361-FGR-2-Phantom-exhaust-nozzles-for-hasegawa-reveii-kit-/230827540771?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item35be64c123

Here's Sprue Bros link for the resin:

http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/ars4361.htm

Those Hasegawa 1/48 FGR.2 must be made of pure gold, starting at $56:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hasegawa-1-48-BRITISH-PHANTOM-FGR-2-TRANSATLANTIC-ALCOCK-AND-BROWN-/170928590006?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item27cc234cb6

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:21 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Striker8241

Augh, Guys, and especially Dom! Just looking back at my replies to you all lately and they seem way to serious! Bang Head  Sorry, they weren't meant to be that way - I just don't have much humerocity in me. I'll try to keep things lighter Idea ... ahh sorry, I mean Balloons. Love your humor, Dom ... you crack me up too Smile.

Russ

Gosh I miss that hotel......Smile

Dom

Uhhh ... huh??? Huh? ... I can't top that...whatever it was Big Smile

Russ

Thanks Russ, I have to say I get a real kick out of you guys and this thread. Always lightens up

the burden of my day, whether you're sounding serious or not.

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:08 PM

Hey, I got that MIG 17 in.

I compared it to the MIG 15 and even though I've read a bit about them,

It's interesting to see the modifications. What is sobering is that the '17

was still basically the '15, and had pretty much the same power plant.

It was able to take out much more powerful and technically advanced

aircraft.

When i compare the two and see that the 17 must have been quite a bit longer,

and it looks like overall more wing area, the modifications made a significant

improvement to its performance. The other thing, as John Boyd pointed out, is

that the '17 was also defeating a very technically advanced missile system.

I'll try and send pics this weekend.

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:55 PM

Bockscar

Striker8241

Augh, Guys, and especially Dom! Just looking back at my replies to you all lately and they seem way to serious! Bang Head  Sorry, they weren't meant to be that way - I just don't have much humerocity in me. I'll try to keep things lighter Idea ... ahh sorry, I mean Balloons. Love your humor, Dom ... you crack me up too Smile.

Russ

Hey Russ, no worries man. Not everyone is cut out to be the class clown.

Heck, back in the late 40's, when I was renting a luxury unit on The Rock,

I had a 'life coach'. Yeah, my little unit had lots and lots of privacy.I paid a lot extra for that!

Four painted walls, and only a letter-box opening for a view.

I had room service, and they would put my gourmet meals through that

letter slot.....errrr....yeah and the hotel's name if I remember correctly

was The AlcaTropics......errrr....so about once a month 

the concierge would have the bellboys escort up to my life coach's office

to check up on my 'self improvement program.' They always brought me a nice white suit to wear

so I was properly dressed.....great service.

Where was I.....errr...my life coach always told me I had a great sense of humor.

In fact, he said that a sense of humor like mine only came around every 1 in 100 million times

so I liked him as he was so complimentary. He would say "Yah know Dom, you are so

funny, we don't think the big ole' world is ready for you yet.......why don't you stay

here for another quarter century or 2? -Dang, he was so thoughtful and encouraging.....errrrr

Yeah, I'ld still be there but one day, when the bellboys come ta git me, I tell 'em a joke so's funny, they laffed so hard, they all darn gon 'n fell over the bannister railin right into that big foyerie, laffin' all they way to the pavement!

Well, there was so much commotion......err...... i decide to go to the beach for a swim......it was

a bit disa poyntin' though........the beach was very rocky and the water was a lot colder 'n I spected....errr

A pal jes happen ta stop by with his sport fishin' boat and gave me a lift back to the marina.....

Gosh I miss that hotel......Smile

Dom

Uhhh ... huh??? Huh? ... I can't top that...whatever it was Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:50 PM

Striker8241

Augh, Guys, and especially Dom! Just looking back at my replies to you all lately and they seem way to serious! Bang Head  Sorry, they weren't meant to be that way - I just don't have much humerocity in me. I'll try to keep things lighter Idea ... ahh sorry, I mean Balloons. Love your humor, Dom ... you crack me up too Smile.

Russ

Hey Russ, no worries man. Not everyone is cut out to be the class clown.

Heck, back in the late 40's, when I was renting a luxury unit on The Rock,

I had a 'life coach'. Yeah, my little unit had lots and lots of privacy.I paid a lot extra for that!

Four painted walls, and only a letter-box opening for a view.

I had room service, and they would put my gourmet meals through that

letter slot.....errrr....yeah and the hotel's name if I remember correctly

was The AlcaTropics......errrr....so about once a month 

the concierge would have the bellboys escort up to my life coach's office

to check up on my 'self improvement program.' They always brought me a nice white suit to wear

so I was properly dressed.....great service.

Where was I.....errr...my life coach always told me I had a great sense of humor.

In fact, he said that a sense of humor like mine only came around every 1 in 100 million times

so I liked him as he was so complimentary. He would say "Yah know Dom, you are so

funny, we don't think the big ole' world is ready for you yet.......why don't you stay

here for another quarter century or 2? -Dang, he was so thoughtful and encouraging.....errrrr

Yeah, I'ld still be there but one day, when the bellboys come ta git me, I tell 'em a joke so's funny, they laffed so hard, they all darn gon 'n fell over the bannister railin right into that big foyerie, laffin' all they way to the pavement!

Well, there was so much commotion......err...... i decide to go to the beach for a swim......it was

a bit disa poyntin' though........the beach was very rocky and the water was a lot colder 'n I spected....errr

A pal jes happen ta stop by with his sport fishin' boat and gave me a lift back to the marina.....

Gosh I miss that hotel......Smile

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:59 AM

Gamera

Russ & Ken: nice work guys. Don't tend to make such radical modifications myself but those are gonna look sharp when finished.

 
Thanks, Gam! Smile

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:40 AM

Augh, Guys, and especially Dom! Just looking back at my replies to you all lately and they seem way to serious! Bang Head  Sorry, they weren't meant to be that way - I just don't have much humerocity in me. I'll try to keep things lighter Idea ... ahh sorry, I mean Balloons. Love your humor, Dom ... you crack me up too Smile.

Russ

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:03 PM

Yeh Dom, but like I said. The nozzles probably cost more than the kit itself.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:33 PM

Thanks Cliff for the compliment!

I got the molded on doors cut off:

Tomorrow I will work on cutting out the holes in the fuselage to make room for the interior boxes.

Ken 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:11 PM

Mike: glad to hear you're getting settled in. Nice to have your own workshop.

Russ & Ken: nice work guys. Don't tend to make such radical modifications myself but those are gonna look sharp when finished.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:44 PM

Bockscar

Flaps down, yeh, pretty close to the ground:

That bird is riding pretty high, Dom. It's not been fully refueled. With a full load, the wings will be much closer to the ground.

Bockscar

So Russ, is that gap in the flaps for the engine blast, is that where the aileron you've cut is positioned?

Yes, Dom, up through the D-models. The D's were the last to use ailerons.

Russ

 

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:37 PM

Bockscar

Hey Ken:

I pulled out the fuselage sprues for the Trumpi F-100,

and the dang thing looks huge.

I don't remember seeing the F-4 as looking smaller.

Dom

Hi Dom,

The F-100D is 50 ft. (15.2 m) long.  The F-4E is 63 ft (19.2 m) long.  So the only thing I can say without looking at the kits (mine are put away) is that the F-4 probably looks shorter without the nose on it.

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:35 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well here is tonight's project.  The Aires Auxiliary Air Intakes:


Looks great, Ken! Can't wait to see everyting in place. YesYes

Russ


PS: Sorry, my comment ended up out of place. Replies function seems to be glitching lately.

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:22 PM

Hey Ken:

I pulled out the fuselage sprues for the Trumpi F-100,

and the dang thing looks huge.

I don't remember seeing the F-4 as looking smaller.

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:16 PM

Bockscar

Here's a question for anyone who might know:

The Trumpi 1/32 F-100, it looks huge compared to

the 1/32 F-4's...what gives?

Are you talking about the boxes that the kits are in?

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:15 PM

Bockscar

Now I get it,

I couldn't make out you were putting in those boxes,

I'm guessing drill n' saw?

Hi Dom,

I will probably use the Dremel on the fuselage to cut the hole since the "box" will be mounted directly to the wing and you won't see the hole in the fuselage.  I will have to use some finesse though when I cut the molded on doors off, so I will probably use a #11 blade with a straight edge and finish with a file.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:10 PM

Here's a question for anyone who might know:

The Trumpi 1/32 F-100, it looks huge compared to

the 1/32 F-4's...what gives?

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Posted by Bockscar on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:01 PM

Now I get it,

I couldn't make out you were putting in those boxes,

I'm guessing drill n' saw?

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:00 PM

Here is what got cut out (from memory)

In this next picture you can see the wing with the auxiliary air intakes loosely attached to the loosely fitted fuselage halves:

In the next picture you can see the fuselage without the wing where the plastic I need to cut for the interior "boxes" need to be cut out and mounted:

 

Here is a picture of the actual resin pieces.  Once again, very high detail typical of most Aires products:

Ken 

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