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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:39 PM

Cliff;

They say a nuke never strikes the same place twice!Big Smile

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:30 PM

Gamera

Ken: Hoping the best for you mom.

Dom: Hey big congrads on acing your exam!!!

Yeah, the whole thing about no gun on the early F-4 - if so many of our guys didn't get killed because of it I'd find it funny.

'Hey man you want a gun on your fighter??? Like what is this- the old west!?!  We're sending men to the moon, we're got computers small enough to fit into one room- this is the future man!!! Missiles are the future, guns are like the stone age- you want us to put some rocks in the cockpit so the pilot can open the canopy and throw them at the enemy too?'

What kinda maroon builds a fighter without a friggin' gun!?!?! Huh?

Dom: I feel funny quoting myself but here's my original rant Zip it!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:20 PM

Gamera

Dom: Sorry, sometimes I'm a little bit of a smarta@@..... Wink

Cliff:

That's why you are in good company, man!

That was a good conversation, so if you do have

the link handy, it would save me a ton of time

backtracking to find it.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:08 PM

Dom: Sorry, sometimes I'm a little bit of a smarta@@..... Wink

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:42 PM

Gamera

Dom: Whoops! That's my own quote, I made it up! Please don't attribute it to McNamara (as little respect as I have for the guy) he didn't say it!

Mike: Nice looking models! What brand is the Mirage? I see some Japanese on the NE corner but no company logo.

Errr. Cliff;

That was such a resonant bit of prose.....I think I made it up???....right????

LOL....good one......YesToast

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:42 PM

Thanks Mike! Cool, I've found Fujimi like Otaki makes really nice kits though not quite to Hasegawa/Tamiya quality but still pretty darn close.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:31 PM

Fujimi.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 4, 2012 7:26 PM

Dom: Whoops! That's my own quote, I made it up! Please don't attribute it to McNamara (as little respect as I have for the guy) he didn't say it!

Mike: Nice looking models! What brand is the Mirage? I see some Japanese on the NE corner but no company logo.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:56 PM

LMFAO!  Dom, you crack me up..  Hey guys I need a bit of help with something.  My Nephew has asked me to find him a large scale  (1/535 or larger) model of the U.S.S> Massahusetts.  We were talking about his Great Grandfather and how he sailed on her, and he wants to do one.  So if anyone happens to find a decent one for a decent price (less than the leeches on eBay are selling them for), please shoot me a URL.. Thanks.

Rich

Bockscar

NO!!

NO DA**IT!!

What did I just tell you?

ABSOLUTELY NO GUNS ON THOSE FIGHTERS!!!

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:40 PM

NO!!

NO DA**IT!!

What did I just tell you?

ABSOLUTELY NO GUNS ON THOSE FIGHTERS!!!

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:28 PM

Gamera

Ken: Hoping the best for you mom.

Dom: Hey big congrads on acing your exam!!!

Yeah, the whole thing about no gun on the early F-4 - if so many of our guys didn't get killed because of it I'd find it funny.

'Hey man you want a gun on your fighter??? Like what is this- the old west!?!  We're sending men to the moon, we're got computers small enough to fit into one room- this is the future man!!! Missiles are the future, guns are like the stone age- you want us to put some rocks in the cockpit so the pilot can open the canopy and throw them at the enemy too?'

What kinda maroon builds a fighter without a friggin' gun!?!?! Huh?

Cliff:

Thanks for the congrads, much appreciated!

Do you have a link back to that quote:

'Hey man you want a gun on your fighter??? Like what is this- the old west!?!  We're sending men to the moon, we're got computers small enough to fit into one room- this is the future man!!! Missiles are the future, guns are like the stone age- you want us to put some rocks in the cockpit so the pilot can open the canopy and throw them at the enemy too?'

Thanks,

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:17 PM

Very cool Mike.  I have been thinking about some of the kits I built when I was younger and how cool it would be to build them again.  I already talked about the first one, a 1/72 Japanese Zero.  I built so many, it would be hard to remember them all.  But I do remember some, like the German Stuka, Messerschmitt Bf 109, P-51 Mustang, B-17 Flying Fortress, B-58 Hustler, UH-1 Huey, Supermarine Spitfire, AH-1 Cobra, F-86 Sabre, F-100 Super Sabre, F-4 Phantom II, B-52 Stratofortress, Northrop F-5, Corsair F4U, P-40 Warhawk, and the P-38 Lightning.

Now that is just from memory, and that was about 40 years ago.  So you can be sure that there are at least 5 times as many that I forgot!

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, October 4, 2012 5:30 PM

Youd think they would have learned after the parachute debacle in the first world war.

Pilots were not to carry parachutes because it encouraged them to abandon their aircraft when in a tight spot. (official claim was lack of space, this isnt true, theres plenty of space for a chute)

Look what arrived on the doorstep yesterday (the courier moved the mat to a really obvious spot and put it under the mat.)

EEE!!! First kit i ever built. Having another go many years later (somewhere between 14 and 18 years ago i built this kit)

The nextr one i wanna do is the Revell 1:72 Mil-24 Hind D Tigermeet.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, October 4, 2012 12:23 PM

Gamera

Wow, didn't know they were designed for bombers- makes it even crazier to think they could be used against any sort of enemy aircraft!

I understand that in the humid climate of Vietnam the missiles ended up with buckets of water, bugs, and all kinds of trash inside their casing. Not good for solid-state electronic equipment today, pretty much lethal for the '60s tech of vacuum tubes, transistors, all kinds of open circuitry.  

Very true!

Yes the way of thinking back then after WWII before Korea and Vietnam was that there was not going to be anymore "dogfights".  It was all going to be nuclear war and nuclear deterrence.  No need for conventional war type of weapons.  So the planes and weapons were being designed with that purpose in mind.  Then Korea and Vietnam happened.  It took a while for it to sink in to the Pentagon officials heads what needed to change.

Ken

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:31 AM

Wow, didn't know they were designed for bombers- makes it even crazier to think they could be used against any sort of enemy aircraft!

I understand that in the humid climate of Vietnam the missiles ended up with buckets of water, bugs, and all kinds of trash inside their casing. Not good for solid-state electronic equipment today, pretty much lethal for the '60s tech of vacuum tubes, transistors, all kinds of open circuitry.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:17 AM

Gamera

Ken: Hoping the best for you mom.

Dom: Hey big congrads on acing your exam!!!

Yeah, the whole thing about no gun on the early F-4 - if so many of our guys didn't get killed because of it I'd find it funny.

'Hey man you want a gun on your fighter??? Like what is this- the old west!?!  We're sending men to the moon, we're got computers small enough to fit into one room- this is the future man!!! Missiles are the future, guns are like the stone age- you want us to put some rocks in the cockpit so the pilot can open the canopy and throw them at the enemy too?'

What kinda maroon builds a fighter without a friggin' gun!?!?! Huh?

Yes and what made it even worse was the fact that the missles were so unreliable.  First they were meant for large lumbering bombers, not limber jinking fighters, and second, most of the time they completely malfunctioned.

Ken

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 4, 2012 9:31 AM

Ken: Hoping the best for you mom.

Dom: Hey big congrads on acing your exam!!!

Yeah, the whole thing about no gun on the early F-4 - if so many of our guys didn't get killed because of it I'd find it funny.

'Hey man you want a gun on your fighter??? Like what is this- the old west!?!  We're sending men to the moon, we're got computers small enough to fit into one room- this is the future man!!! Missiles are the future, guns are like the stone age- you want us to put some rocks in the cockpit so the pilot can open the canopy and throw them at the enemy too?'

What kinda maroon builds a fighter without a friggin' gun!?!?! Huh?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:46 PM

Thanks for the cheering words guys. Dom your a funny bugger.

Hernias are nasty business. Dad had a herniated belly button a while ago. Got it stitched up when getting off the couch cause him agony and is belly button to go from an inee to a WAY outee. Im waiting for my first one.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:58 PM

Hi Everyone,

I am taking a small break on clearing off my workbench.  I am making progress, I am starting to see areas of the bare surface!

I talked to my Mom this evening.  Apparently the surgery on her para-esophageal hernia is too difficult for the first surgeon she was referred to so she has been referred to another one.  So her new appointment to see this surgeon is next Wednesday.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:50 PM

Bockscar

Scorpiomikey

Thanks for the comments.

Ill get it sorted eventually, but right now everything is being packed into storage. We have been given 4 weeks notice to vacate the property for emergency earthquake repairs. 5 weeks in a hotel, then we have to move all our stuff back in. yay.

Mike;

Up here in Canada,

we suffer farthquakes, from the dithering, lying, state media, whom are paid in farthings.

If they say something, you know the opposite is true.

The only thing we need to put in storage is our own common sense.

Yeah, they've been repairing the damage from their own

farthquakes for years......it never ends....I swear they go

around the country, sniffing farths, just to perdict were the next

farth eruption will happen, so they can convert a farth into a farthing.

I have to get news from Europe about North America to know what is really

happening, outside the farthquake zone......lol

Listen, Mike, good luck with the move, I moved over 12 times before I was 18.

That taught me a real lesson about adaptability.

As the geologists say, "shist happens", and that, and a farthing,

will buy you a used coffee stir stick off the sidewalk.

Best

You crack me up Dom!  Big Smile

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:48 PM

Scorpiomikey

Thanks for the comments.

Ill get it sorted eventually, but right now everything is being packed into storage. We have been given 4 weeks notice to vacate the property for emergency earthquake repairs. 5 weeks in a hotel, then we have to move all our stuff back in. yay.

That is terrible Mike!  I am really sorry to hear that.  I hate moving!  And this is just moving back into the same place!

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:38 PM

Scorpiomikey

Thanks for the comments.

Ill get it sorted eventually, but right now everything is being packed into storage. We have been given 4 weeks notice to vacate the property for emergency earthquake repairs. 5 weeks in a hotel, then we have to move all our stuff back in. yay.

Mike;

Up here in Canada,

we suffer farthquakes, from the dithering, lying, state media, whom are paid in farthings.

If they say something, you know the opposite is true.

The only thing we need to put in storage is our own common sense.

Yeah, they've been repairing the damage from their own

farthquakes for years......it never ends....I swear they go

around the country, sniffing farths, just to perdict were the next

farth eruption will happen, so they can convert a farth into a farthing.

I have to get news from Europe about North America to know what is really

happening, outside the farthquake zone......lol

Listen, Mike, good luck with the move, I moved over 12 times before I was 18.

That taught me a real lesson about adaptability.

As the geologists say, "shist happens", and that, and a farthing,

will buy you a used coffee stir stick off the sidewalk.

Best

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  • From: New Zealand
Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:13 PM

Thanks for the comments.

Ill get it sorted eventually, but right now everything is being packed into storage. We have been given 4 weeks notice to vacate the property for emergency earthquake repairs. 5 weeks in a hotel, then we have to move all our stuff back in. yay.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

Recite the litanies, fire up the Gellar field, a poo storm is coming Hmm 

My signature

Check out my blog here.

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:07 PM

Scorpiomikey

Right, im sick of this thing.

Im calling it done even though its missing its weapons and some handles/service steps.

The kit itself is terrible. But it only cost me another kit that i wasnt going to build anyway (Thank you CallsignOWL)

You know Mike;

That is one angry looking bird.

Yeah, give it a rest for now, but weapon her up good when fall comes.

Hide her away, then bring her back, she looks great from here!Yes

Dom

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:18 PM

Guys,

Many thanks for the kudos on passing my tractor exam.

I was sitting in the exam room waiting for my results,

and that's when I got panicky.

It was three tests, truck knowledge and rules;

air-brake; and road signs.

If you fail one section, you fail the whole exam,

and your license is cancelled on the spot.

That means going through the driver's written exam,

a road test, then graduated licensing for months,

then reapplying for the tractor written exam,

then the tractor road test.

As I was waiting, I was wondering how I was going to

pay the cab fare home.......aaarrrfff

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:11 PM

Ken:

Well, that's a small blessing anyways. I wish your mom and yourself

all the best through this ordeal.

I hear you on the work bench clutter issue. I think Rich is a champion

when it comes to stratified work-bench material. I thought I had him beat,

but no, he stole my crown!....lol

I too must clean the tabula back to raza in order to get back to work.

Man good light really helps, absolutely critical to get started.

I saw that beautiful 1/32 F-4 that is in FSM.

My F-4P will never look like that, but it will look like an F-4.

The article gave me an idea to thin out the turkey feathers.

Sometimes I see those pro builds, and all I want to do

is go back to collecting!.....lol

If you are going with your mom to the surgeon,

make sure to take notes, you are now her medical advocate.

Best of luck Ken!

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:59 PM

Sparrowhyperion

Hi Dom  I know about the effects of sea and sky on how they looked.  I was wondering  if there was an official Navy FS number they used prior to WWII when the Arizona was in service.  I was suggesting  Light Sea Gray for the Turpitz.  I wish I could just send him cans but it's a pain in the butt when you have to send paint cans (hazardous material).  I hope he has an easy time picking up the paint I recommend.  I know there is a MM Navy Gray, but I have never had the opportunity to use it, so I wasn't sure if it would fit.  I did find a couple of references, but they list 5 colors, each with a very different FS number and RGB values.  I have been aboard the Massachusetts when I was a kid, but that was a very long time ago.  Hey I have an idea.......  Google Maps!!!  I can get an areal shot of her or just find a well lit image online and use my color picker... Thanks Dom.  Your inspiration is, as always, great.

Rich

Rich;

Ask Rex, Tarnship, or OldTanker builder, he's into ships.

I almost forgot:

"You can never finish painting a battleship...."

Rich; thanks for the compliment about inspiration, I

appreciate that.

-Dom

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:47 AM

That's great news!  I'm glad they figured out what was causing it.  Keep us posted and all best wishes for her full recovery.

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Well believe it or not I am finally getting back to work on modeling.  The first step though is to clear off my workbench.  It has become a collecting spot for things that I did not know where else to put stuff.  Consequently, it will take a few evenings to get it cleared off.  But at least I have started on it.

On another note, my Mom finally found out about her heart.  It seems that the valve in her left ventrical is not working correctly and hence the reason for her enlarged heart.  Apparently that is not enough concern to not do the surgery on her para-esophageal hernia.  She will see the surgeon tomorrow to discuss that.

Ken

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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  • From: Toledo Area OH
Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:21 AM

Hi Dom  I know about the effects of sea and sky on how they looked.  I was wondering  if there was an official Navy FS number they used prior to WWII when the Arizona was in service.  I was suggesting  Light Sea Gray for the Turpitz.  I wish I could just send him cans but it's a pain in the butt when you have to send paint cans (hazardous material).  I hope he has an easy time picking up the paint I recommend.  I know there is a MM Navy Gray, but I have never had the opportunity to use it, so I wasn't sure if it would fit.  I did find a couple of references, but they list 5 colors, each with a very different FS number and RGB values.  I have been aboard the Massachusetts when I was a kid, but that was a very long time ago.  Hey I have an idea.......  Google Maps!!!  I can get an areal shot of her or just find a well lit image online and use my color picker... Thanks Dom.  Your inspiration is, as always, great.

Rich

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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  • From: USA
Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:13 AM

Great news, Ken! Anything that avoids surgery is good!

- ahh wait...maybe I misread that...apparently they're thinking about doing the hernia surgery?

Russ

 

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