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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:51 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Russ,

Thanks for posting that link!  That was quite an interesting read.  I never knew that the B-52 was such a complicated aircraft to fly.  That makes me think about that pilot that pulled those amazing maneuvers in a B-52 that had the unfortunate accident.  He really was an incredible pilot!

Ken

 
You're welcome, Ken, and neither did I, bud. It also points out how critical it's flight characteristics were especially at low speeds, hence the tendency to crash when treating one as if it were a fighter or even a Cessna. He did some amazing things I hear, but I suspect he was always on the edge while doing it and he finally pushed one too far.
 
I know from experience crawling around inside it that there were hundreds of systems and subsystems in virtually every cubby hole and corner. It's truly amazing that everything worked most of the time and that the beast could actually get off the ground and get the job done Big Smile. It was then, and still is, a flying warehouse and has to be treated accordingly.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:27 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Russ,

If you are interested in a 1/72 plastic mold injected C-123 there is a kit by Mach 2.  The price is high and the kit will require all of your skills to fix the problems with it.  There is a vendor on eBay selling the kits for $65.00 plus $10.00 shipping (at least to where I live):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-72-Mach-2-FAIRCHILD-C-123-PROVIDER-Gunship-/130772999568 

Hannants also sells the kits (about the same price) but they are currently out of stock and you would have to pay for shipping overseas.

Ken

 
Thanks, Ken. I would prefer an injection mold kit over a vacuum form one. I looked at the ones on eBay but having read about the poor quality of the Mach 2 kits, I was not eager to buy one. But now that I think about it, the vacuum form kit I'm looking at doesn't have all the necessary parts and details and would require aftermarket kits to make it complete, which would probably equal or exceed the price of the Mach 2 kit. Thanks for the link - I'll check it out more thoroughly.
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:18 PM

Striker8241

Hey, Guys,

I came across this post by dvt that provides some interesting insights to the use of spoilers and flaps on the B-52. He was a pilot who flew them: http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/85367-b52-bomber-spoilers.html. See his following comments as well. Thanks, dvt.

Cheers,

Russ

Hi Russ,

Thanks for posting that link!  That was quite an interesting read.  I never knew that the B-52 was such a complicated aircraft to fly.  That makes me think about that pilot that pulled those amazing maneuvers in a B-52 that had the unfortunate accident.  He really was an incredible pilot!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:56 PM

Striker8241

My stash has been almost non-existant since I got back into model building so I decided to beef it up, at least with the remaining 1/72  Vietnam era planes I worked on. Today, I received a Hasegawa A-7A Corsair II, Hasegawa F-4E Phantom II and a Trumpeter F-105G Wild Weasel (The F-4 and F-105 will represent the many different models of these planes I worked on).  I also plan to order a vacuform C-123 Provider from Robert's Combat Models. Finally, I need to find a 1/72 C-130, preferrably an MC-130 Combat Talon model.These should keep me busy well into the next century Big Smile.

Cheers,

Russ

Hi Russ,

If you are interested in a 1/72 plastic mold injected C-123 there is a kit by Mach 2.  The price is high and the kit will require all of your skills to fix the problems with it.  There is a vendor on eBay selling the kits for $65.00 plus $10.00 shipping (at least to where I live):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-72-Mach-2-FAIRCHILD-C-123-PROVIDER-Gunship-/130772999568 

Hannants also sells the kits (about the same price) but they are currently out of stock and you would have to pay for shipping overseas.

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:51 PM

OOohhh, i need to get me an F-105. Always been fascinated with that aircraft. Those forward swept intakes look so cool.

I hope you're going to post images of your stash shortly.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:23 PM

My stash has been almost non-existant since I got back into model building so I decided to beef it up, at least with the remaining 1/72  Vietnam era planes I worked on. Today, I received a Hasegawa A-7A Corsair II, Hasegawa F-4E Phantom II and a Trumpeter F-105G Wild Weasel (The F-4 and F-105 will represent the many different models of these planes I worked on).  I also plan to order a vacuform C-123 Provider from Robert's Combat Models. Finally, I need to find a 1/72 C-130, preferrably an MC-130 Combat Talon model.These should keep me busy well into the next century Big Smile.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:22 AM

Hey, Guys,

I came across this post by dvt that provides some interesting insights to the use of spoilers and flaps on the B-52. He was a pilot who flew them: http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/85367-b52-bomber-spoilers.html. See his following comments as well. Thanks, dvt.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:44 AM

Yeah big congrads Rich! Funny I'd assumed it was 1/72nd till I saw the 1/32 label at the top- now that's a good deal. The F/A-18 isn't that big a plane but in 1/32nd she's gonna be huge!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:03 AM

Sparrowhyperion

Guys, I think I just made the eBay score of the month.  I sold some older computer components, so I had a little to get a kit with after feeding the Wifey monster with most of the proceeds, so I was looking to pick up a cheap F104 or something..  Then I saw this.....

I bid it to a max of $16.03, and got it for just under $16..  I know it's not the most accurate kit since it's the pre-production model, but it looks like it's going to be fun to build.  I'm thinking of trying to find some Blue Angel markings for it.  I think the decals it comes with make it look more like a toy.  They don't have a lot of detail.  I'm not sure if I am going to bother with rescribing the panel lines.  My hands are a bit too shaky to risk ruining it.  I may have to get some aftermarket landing gear for it.  The few places that have a review for it say they are kind of weak for the model's weight.  We'll see.  I was going to try and find some RAAF or RNZAF markings for it, but they are way too pricey on top of the kit.  I can hardly wait to get ahold of it.

 
Wow, that looks like a really good buy, Rich!  Congratulations! Yes  Yes
 
Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 8, 2012 10:09 PM

Now that is funny!!  Big Smile  You don't know how close to being true that came!  I thought about it!  But I stuck to only doing the stack that was on the workbench.  I'll leave the rest of them for another time!

Ken

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Monday, October 8, 2012 10:01 PM

That would be great Scorpio.  Most of the ones I found in 1/32 were like $15, and almost as much to ship. lol  Hmmm, I just realized that my other 1/48 scale F-18 had Kiwi Markings..  I could probably scale those up to 1/32 if I scan them at high enough resolution....  Now I just have to find some white decal sheets. lol.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, October 8, 2012 9:57 PM

LMAO i was thinking to myself "Next he'll catalogue his magazines, then he'll start sorting his bookcase..."

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 8, 2012 9:53 PM

Hi Everyone,

I made more progress on clearing off the workbench this evening.  I cataloged a stack of aircraft books and put away some other odds and ends.  I guess I just under estimated how much there was on that bench and how long it was going to take.  But I am going keep at it until it is done!

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Monday, October 8, 2012 9:00 PM

If you want, i can scan in my generic kiwi roundels if you want? Do a what if build.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 8, 2012 8:54 PM

Congratulations Rich, nice score!  Toast 

Ken

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Monday, October 8, 2012 8:44 PM

Guys, I think I just made the eBay score of the month.  I sold some older computer components, so I had a little to get a kit with after feeding the Wifey monster with most of the proceeds, so I was looking to pick up a cheap F104 or something..  Then I saw this.....

I bid it to a max of $16.03, and got it for just under $16..  I know it's not the most accurate kit since it's the pre-production model, but it looks like it's going to be fun to build.  I'm thinking of trying to find some Blue Angel markings for it.  I think the decals it comes with make it look more like a toy.  They don't have a lot of detail.  I'm not sure if I am going to bother with rescribing the panel lines.  My hands are a bit too shaky to risk ruining it.  I may have to get some aftermarket landing gear for it.  The few places that have a review for it say they are kind of weak for the model's weight.  We'll see.  I was going to try and find some RAAF or RNZAF markings for it, but they are way too pricey on top of the kit.  I can hardly wait to get ahold of it.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 8, 2012 7:33 PM

LOL, the Environmental Protection Agency declared my workbench a superfund site!!!

Dom was just on this weekend, so it hasn't been that long. You're right in that it seems like weeks since Jim has been around though.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Monday, October 8, 2012 7:27 PM

Yeh Ken, I haven't heard from him in a while too.  Maybe he got a trucking job.

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Monday, October 8, 2012 7:26 PM

Yeh it would be hilarious.  Bonus Kudos for the messiest Workbench.

Son Of Medicine Man

Sparrowhyperion

I was always of the opinion that a messy workbench is a happy workbench.  I think mine died of laughing from being so happy.....

We should do a "Workbench Wreck" build.  It could be fun.   Have each of thr members pull down the worst they have in semi complete kits, and try to save them.  The only Caveat being that the workbench needs to be kept at or near total chaos for the duration of the build. lmao

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

My workbench is very nearly cleared off.  I ran into a very large stack of decals which I have wanted to sort and file for quite some time.  So I spent a majority of the day doing just that.  It did mean adding another day to getting the workbench cleared off but having the decals sorted was worth it!  Maybe tomorrow night I will have my workbench finished?  Smile 

Ken

That's funny!  Big Smile 

Ken

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 8, 2012 7:22 PM

Striker8241

Hey Dom, you on the road? Check in and let us know how you're doing, bud. We miss your wackiness Big Smile.

Russ

Yes, where is Dom?  Confused   And where in the world is Jim?  Confused  We have not heard from him for quite a while!

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, October 8, 2012 7:17 PM

Sparrowhyperion

I was always of the opinion that a messy workbench is a happy workbench.  I think mine died of laughing from being so happy.....

We should do a "Workbench Wreck" build.  It could be fun.   Have each of thr members pull down the worst they have in semi complete kits, and try to save them.  The only Caveat being that the workbench needs to be kept at or near total chaos for the duration of the build. lmao

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

My workbench is very nearly cleared off.  I ran into a very large stack of decals which I have wanted to sort and file for quite some time.  So I spent a majority of the day doing just that.  It did mean adding another day to getting the workbench cleared off but having the decals sorted was worth it!  Maybe tomorrow night I will have my workbench finished?  Smile 

Ken

That's funny!  Big Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Monday, October 8, 2012 10:26 AM

I was always of the opinion that a messy workbench is a happy workbench.  I think mine died of laughing from being so happy.....

We should do a "Workbench Wreck" build.  It could be fun.   Have each of thr members pull down the worst they have in semi complete kits, and try to save them.  The only Caveat being that the workbench needs to be kept at or near total chaos for the duration of the build. lmao

Rich

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

My workbench is very nearly cleared off.  I ran into a very large stack of decals which I have wanted to sort and file for quite some time.  So I spent a majority of the day doing just that.  It did mean adding another day to getting the workbench cleared off but having the decals sorted was worth it!  Maybe tomorrow night I will have my workbench finished?  Smile 

Ken

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, October 8, 2012 9:25 AM

Hey Dom, you on the road? Check in and let us know how you're doing, bud. We miss your wackiness Big Smile.

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, October 8, 2012 5:51 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

My workbench is very nearly cleared off.  I ran into a very large stack of decals which I have wanted to sort and file for quite some time.  So I spent a majority of the day doing just that.  It did mean adding another day to getting the workbench cleared off but having the decals sorted was worth it!  Maybe tomorrow night I will have my workbench finished?  Smile 

Ken

 
Hang in there, Ken! You're in the home stretch! Big Smile Yes Yes

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 7, 2012 10:05 PM

Scorpiomikey

Of course it was Ken. *cough*procrastination*cough* lol

Lol!  Big Smile  It is an obsession of mine, ever since I was a kid.  I get started on somethiing and get side tracked on something else.  But it will be nice when it does get finished!

Ken

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, October 7, 2012 9:42 PM

Of course it was Ken. *cough*procrastination*cough* lol

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 7, 2012 9:38 PM

Hi Everyone,

My workbench is very nearly cleared off.  I ran into a very large stack of decals which I have wanted to sort and file for quite some time.  So I spent a majority of the day doing just that.  It did mean adding another day to getting the workbench cleared off but having the decals sorted was worth it!  Maybe tomorrow night I will have my workbench finished?  Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 7, 2012 6:53 PM

Thanks, Ken! Big Smile  Not a big detail but I thought I would point it out.

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, October 7, 2012 6:06 PM

Hi Russ,

Once again your attention to accuracy and detail is amazing!  Kudos my friend!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, October 7, 2012 5:13 PM

I came across some aerial refueling pictures that show I had the EWO hatch represented incorrectly as a scribed outline. In actuality, the EWO hatch had a cover similar to the entrance hatch (see the picture below).  I filled in the scribing and modelled the hatch and I will also add the guide marks above the cockpit ahead of the refueling probe, as shown in the second photo.

Cheers,

Russ

 

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