I'm in ,can you put me down for a 1/48 Dragon Ju88A-6,thanks

Nuts, just when I thought I was freeing up my GB commitents. put me down for something to be named later

Hans-thanks for posting the additional info-I hadn't noticed the bombardier's hatch location on the field modification version.  I still would like to get an interior photo of the field mod version, but I'm thinking a little 'artistic license' may be required.  I've still not decided if I'm going to jump into this GB and if so, if it will be with a Droop Snoot or the Monogram B-25J sitting in the stash.

Another interesting thing was that one of the sites stated that the P-38J could carry two 1000# bombs, coming close to the payload of the B-17.  Hans-based on your knowledge and reference materials, is this a factual statement?

I've got another link buried somewhere that states that the 'toggler' laid prone and the ability to bail out was limited.  I would image that applied to the field mod Droop Snoots, not the pics that you posted....but I could be wrong....

That may well be the truth for one of them, but I have a ref that says they were bombardiers, not  Toggliers (they were in the B-17s, B-24s, or whatever bombers they were "pathfinding" for.. ) ... They were also rather cozy in the nose, with the ability to bail out and they had all the "comforts" of thepilot od a single-seat fighter..

As the war progressed, there were fewer and fewer bombardiers (as well as gunners) in the 8th AF, as the pathfinders or the lead ships had "real" bombardiers that targeted the primary, and then when he dropped, the rest of the formaton would "Toggle on the Leader"...  School-trained bombardiers were going to the PTO in droves by late-1944 for B-29s, and "Toggliers" and "Bombagators" were dropping the bombs...

 Regarding the heater, it was said that heater was excellent for the bombardier, but for the pilot, nothing had changed... The P-38 had a lousy cockpit heater, and pilots froze their azzes off at high-alt in the ETO..

Not a problem in the PTO though, hence you hear a lot about P-38s there, including the fact that the USA's  Ace-of-Aces, *** Bong, flew a P-38, as did the top-two and three pilots behind him (actually Bong flew several, as he wore-out two of them, at least, and was given a new one after his return from the States) and also, my dad's group had P-38s before they transitioned to P-51s and he too, said "the heater in the Lightning was a miserable POS and the only thing it kept warm was itself", lol.. 

The relief tube would freeze up after one use too.. Plus, I can't imagine getting "Mr. Happy" to get past the underwear, heated underwear, flightsuit, and a parachute harness & lad-belts to use the tube, or even a bottle of some sort...  Dad said he used a thermos-bottle for that "mission" after the relief tube froze...

I'm gettin' off-track here, so I'll leave it at that, and just say that anyone with questions they can't find answers to, gimme a shout.. I may already have what you're looking for, and will gladly help y'all out in that department..

bsyamato

intresting rare lightning

 

Here's an even rarer Lightning:

This one is the P-38J that belongs to the (former) Confederate Air Force (now "Comemmorative Air Force), as the "Scatterbrained-Kid".  It was rare as it was the only airworthy Droop-snoot, but went one step farther as the only Three-seat P-38 in existance.  It had the P-38M's radar operator position and well as the bombardier nose, which made even rarer....

It was restored to her P-38J configuration, but sadly, it crashed some years ago.  The remains are pieces in a hangar somewhere in a Texas Airpatch, awaiting funding that will probably never come..

This her after conversion:

As far as the Monogram P-38 Droopsnoot goes, it does have a diffirent nose-bubble... (an exact match to the Monogram Mosquito, which leads me to believe that that was the field modification, since the USAAF flew Mosquitos, too.. But that's a SWAG on my part.)

But the reason I posted the other droopsnoot pics was to show the bombardier's hatch locations, which are the same on both versions..

The Lightning has the bomb-nose with the optically flat panel in order to use the Norden bombsight.  The Norden has to have that flat panel in order to prevent distortion or refracton that would happen sighting through curved panels... Which was a problem for the other variant... So I think that the squadrons using the Monogram-type got the nose-bubble from de Haviland...

Hey Tom- Count me in! I have a Martin B-26 that I would like to do as "Dina Might" once I get my T-bolts done and my Corsair. Can't wait!

intresting rare lightning

heres my he-111 actual situation

all main panels are already resribed

Recently i get the smer leo-451 in 1/72 too for few euros. Original mold are from heller, will be a mees build but sign this in too

heres dimension comparing with my ancestral matchbox he-111 

Thats what I thought...

pzl66

Oops, which P-38 was the one with the bombadier nose?

Oops, which P-38 was the one with the bombadier nose?

Thanks for those pics Hans.  I just picked up a Revell "J" for 11 bucks , with a 40% off coupon at ACMoore`s. My plan is to get 2 more and build all 3 versions Revell offers. Also picked up an F-80 at Michael`s with a 40% coupon...my Wife swatted my "Lid-Do-Bee" off a shelf.."Accidentally" of course...had a big smile on my face when I walked in with the new one......

Thanks for posting those pics Hans.  I've got a 1/48th Revell P-38J in the stash and I've been thinking of going the Droop Snoot route.  However, the Revell kit is the earlier version, slightly different nose.  I think it may have been a field modification.

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/images/p38-8.jpg

http://members.fortunecity.com/ww2airmen/droopsnoot.html

If you scroll to the bottom of this link, there is a reference to the field mod Droop Snoops:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1271186828/1271263944/To+anyone+who+has+pic%27s+for+theb+P-38+droop+snoot+interior+in+the+nose...

I've got another link buried somewhere that states that the 'toggler' laid prone and the ability to bail out was limited.  I would image that applied to the field mod Droop Snoots, not the pics that you posted....but I could be wrong....

EDIT-here's a link to the instructions for the 1/72 scale Academy Droop Snoot-a little help but not much...at least it gives an idea of how much (or little) room there was in the nose.

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10053799z/70/1

For you P-38 "Droop Snoot" guys, here's the hatch locations for the bombardier, and his panel..

I'm noticing a distinct underrepresentation of the divine scale.  Put me down for Airfix's classic B-26 in 1/72.

im in!

revell 1/48 A-26B. 

brown nose 731st markings

Len, don't know what the Ventura was classified

The PV-1 Ventura is a "patrol bomber" (PV actually means "Patrol, Heavier than Air, aircraft) in US Navy jargon, and a bomber in Army Air Force (B-34 Lexington)... Technically, it was a bombardier-trainer (B-34)and navigation trainer (B-34B), and the B-34As were former RAF Venturas returned to the US Army under "Reverse Lend-Lease", with some being used for anti-sub patrols, although that wasn't the primary mission.. Also known as "O-56"s and were used as armed Observation aircraft...  Army B-34As were painted in RAF camouflage, and the B-34/O-56 in OD/NG..

Clear as mud now, right?

As for the GB name-change, you guys have to change it yourselves in your replies by using the "Edit" function, or every time you reply to someone that hasn't edited it, the "Medium Bomber GB"  perpetuates itself..  Once that's done, the name-change will reflect itself in future replies, starting with this one here...

Put me down for a 1/48 scale Revell B-25J please.

Like I said in your other topic, given the awesome and relaxed rules you can count me in.

Revell's 1/32 JU-88.

Ok guys. Looks like this will be fun! I'll update the roster as time goes on. Looks like some really good builds will come out of this!

Alrightythen...the Ventura it is!  I`m in the same boat as some others , being in numerous GB`s, so prolly won`t start it for a while so I can clean up some loose ends....

If there is still time left I'll join later on, over committed already, but we'll see. I've been wanting to do a German bomber lately.

Revell 1/48 P-38 Droop Snoot "Bomber" 

Guys. Sorry for the confusion. I changed the forum name to meet the rules I had hashed out. If it was a twin whose primary use/role was to drop bombs to prosecute the war, it's legit. Thanks.

You can count me in with a DML 1/72 Arado Ar-234. Neat little kit, should be a fun build.

Len, don't know what the Ventura was classified as but every site I've checked lists the A-20 as Attack/Light Bomber. (shrug).

Not to speak for Tom but I think as being twin engine and dropping bombs the Ventura is eligible by the rules.

Let's see, I'm finishing up the Jap GB, then the B-36, then 109, THEN open.  So if you're still at it, gosh I could do a Mossie, He 111, Do 17, Ju 88.....

Gamera

Tom:

Please count me in with the Douglas A-20G Havoc though by Hans definition I'm assuming she'd be a light bomber but still she did have twin engines and drop bombs. 

Tom:

Please count me in with the Douglas A-20G Havoc though by Hans definition I'm assuming she'd be a light bomber but still she did have twin engines and drop bombs. 

I have an italeri he-111h6 1/72 next to the bench for the 1942 GB , no pieces glued iust engraved panel lines.

Panzerpilot -  Count me in with Revell`s Ventura for now...may change or add something later.