Vietnam Air War GB - Extended!

satch_ip

I just bought the Eduard MiG-21MF Profipack and two Brassin sets because of this darn 24 hours sale.  Damn you Squadron!  Now I just need some decals for this...

Criticism? Are you serious?? The work is outstanding! If I could do nearly as well I'd be very proud. Looks like the start of a very fine project. Best of luck on the rest.

Hi all....rescribing work is ended.......this is the pilot's office......what do you think??Any criticism or comment are welcome.......Ciao Enrico.

Pilot, after completing my Mirage today I moved the Hun up to the ready line. The Starfighter came out of the dugout and is now on deck.

Satch, I don't know if you have ever read "Thud Ridge" by Jack Broughton,  but every time I see that blue camo'd MiG 21 profile, I think of the one he describes in his book. If you have never read that book, I HIGHLY recommend it. Last time I read it was almost 30 years ago yet it still stays with me to this day.

professordeath

satch_ip

I just bought the Eduard MiG-21MF Profipack and two Brassin sets because of this darn 24 hours sale.  Damn you Squadron!  Now I just need some decals for this...

I am really having to fight buying one of these myself as it rate up their as one of my favorite planes ever. However, I am terrified of NMF, so I'm resisting the urge. We certinaly need some phantom fodder in this GB!!!

Fear not!  Hear the siren song of the cammo Fishbed!

Is your 104 on deck yet stik?

Im divin right into NMF for the second time, sorta scary :o

That will be a nice mig! Whooo! I'm in the market for a 1/48 Tamiya Skyraider

Thank you I will stock up on it then, also I'm 15 as some of you remember :)

I just bought the Eduard MiG-21MF Profipack and two Brassin sets because of this darn 24 hours sale.  Damn you Squadron!  Now I just need some decals for this...

tcepilot

Is it correct?

tce you are a good modeler and I think you should up your game. After all that's what these forums are for.

The vertical leg of the thing has an airfoil shape to it, only the front part is a rod.

You should get more sizes of wire, plus some styrene rod and stretched sprue. Your copper wire is pretty thick for the several places you've used it.

Typically I just start by cutting off all of the aerials, antennas, fins etc. that model companies see fit to include in a fuse half. Stick them in a baggie and reattach later. Or replace with better ones. One of the few things I appreciate abt trumpeter is all the separate parts.

Pretty close... it should be more pointy and narrow in profile

Is it correct?

I believe that is the pitot tube

Thanks stik! Now I had broken this off but scratch built it back, but I can't find a reference to it? It's the rod/sensor in front of the pilot/windscreen...

OK, I went to have a look at my Monogram A-4 in my stash. you are referring to the strakes above the 20mm cannon muzzles. Those are easy enough to scratch from some strip or sheet plastic. Monogram just boned up and never molded those in place. Although the 1990s vintage "high tech" release of the kit that I have does include them on the PE fret.

I am not sure of what you are referring to by "step looking thingy". The horizontal plate over the 20mm cannon muzzles or the vertical splitter plate between the intake and the fuselage? The C and the E were two different birds so when the C was upgraded it became an A-4L or A-4S depending upon the user. The A-4E had different bombing avionics and engine from the A-4C, hence the different nose and intakes.

I am holding off on the F-4J as a sideline and finishing up my F-4C this week, all pictures of all finished models willl be put on the front page. Stik, I see that another odd thing is that the A-4E has sorta a step lookin' thingy in front of the intakes , but the revell doesnt have them just like the C.. Is it possible that VA-46 upgraded their old C's to E's?

I will probably resume work on my Hun tomorrow or on my days off next week. Today I finally finished up another project that I had going, a Korean War era H-13 medevac chopper.

This is the Revell kit. It can also be built as an early Vietnam scoutship

But you would need to get a new crew figure or two.

I have my Hun sidelined until I finished up this one and a Mirage IIIEA that will probably be done tomorrow.

Ok i finished pre-shading the A-4

bondoman

Thank you Stik, and I agree, but there IS a tan in there.

Well, I went and bought myself a birthday present (56 on Sunday):

"Army Aviation in Vietnam 1961-1963: An Illustrated History of Unit Insignia Aircraft Camouflage & Markings" Young, Ralph B.

If that doesn't help, I'm out of guesses.

My freind, there may be a dark tan there, but I will still wager that the lightest color is faded OD 34087. Our Hueys and Cobra's in 5th ID used to weather to the same shade, a very light brownish OD. Especially when seen in direct sunlight. It was in marked contrast to the later Cobras and Hueys in the dark Helo Drab that we also had. But with color shift in film age and printing, who knows. It could be some locally avalible paint made in Taiwan or Japan in the 1960s.

That book sounds awesome and I do hope it holds your answers. I dont know why, but I am really fascinated by that period in Vietnam. My friends father was an Army Aviator there in the early days. I also had a neighbor who served in an Army Aviation unit there and that time. Someting of a P.I.T.A. for a neighbor but quite proud of his service there and then. He was planning on getting a tattoo of somethng like a map of Vietnam, the campaign and service ribbons along with his year of service, (64 or so I think) and the line "when I left we were winning". I liked that idea.

Happy Birthday to you span="" id="mce_marker" data-mce-type="bookmark"> BTW, my oldest turned 22 on Monday... where does the time go?

I just got the Italeri 1/72 F-100D Super Saber, looks like a nice kit!

stikpusher

bondoman

bondoman

It always struck me as kind of a bizarre subject too....

On another front, I am still trying to find references for the camo on the H-21C.

Certainly they were that way in 1963, at least some of the ones in the 93rd in Vietnam.

Note: these pictures are not from that time and place. Best I can come up with.

Like a wine snob:

"I'm getting hints of tan, medium green, olive drab and something dark... black maybe, or hydraulic fluid?"

I am gonna go with an educated SWAG here... those airfrimes arrived in Vietnam in overall OD which would fade to that lighter browner OD shade seen in the top photo. The black is obvious for the first color on the locally applied camo scheme. But the green color??? Medium green 34102 is a guess that I would suggest is not too far out of line.

I really do wish that Revell or Airfix would do one of these in 1/48 (along with an AH-1G). At least Revell is gonna re issue their 1/48 H-34 kit later this year so I can finally get one affordably for a Marine Corps Vietnam build... span="" id="mce_marker" data-mce-type="bookmark">

I've got the 1/72 Hobby Boss H-34 which is a dandy model, esp. since I ordered the PE. Still debating that one for the Shawnee, but at least the exterior set probably.

I need to get a set of Marines decals for the Chocktaw. (It came w/ Belgian markings).

Well, I went and bought myself a birthday present (56 on Sunday):

If that doesn't help, I'm out of guesses.

bondoman

bondoman

It always struck me as kind of a bizarre subject too....

On another front, I am still trying to find references for the camo on the H-21C.

Certainly they were that way in 1963, at least some of the ones in the 93rd in Vietnam.

Note: these pictures are not from that time and place. Best I can come up with.

Like a wine snob:

"I'm getting hints of tan, medium green, olive drab and something dark... black maybe, or hydraulic fluid?"

I am gonna go with an educated SWAG here... those airfrimes arrived in Vietnam in overall OD which would fade to that lighter browner OD shade seen in the top photo. The black is obvious for the first color on the locally applied camo scheme. But the green color??? Medium green 34102 is a guess that I would suggest is not too far out of line.

I really do wish that Revell or Airfix would do one of these in 1/48 (along with an AH-1G). At least Revell is gonna re issue their 1/48 H-34 kit later this year so I can finally get one affordably for a Marine Corps Vietnam build... span="" id="mce_marker" data-mce-type="bookmark">

I know ... wierd huh?

yeah I guess i have seen it like that before

www.vhpamuseum.org/.../93trans.shtml

made me sit back and think

the upper part of the air brake (inside like wheel wells) should be white and the bottom of the air brakes red

It looks like green drab(dark) and olive drab(light) in MM enamels

bondoman

It always struck me as kind of a bizarre subject too....

On another front, I am still trying to find references for the camo on the H-21C.

Certainly they were that way in 1963, at least some of the ones in the 93rd in Vietnam.

Note: these pictures are not from that time and place. Best I can come up with.

"I'm getting hints of tan, medium green, olive drab and something dark... black maybe, or hydraulic fluid?"