Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

You don't necessarily need expensive books, you just need the right ones! I got my 190 bible (only consists of a few diagrams and a LOT of original BnW photos with additional info in a short text below each diagram/picture) for 30€ at a local bookstore specialied in military history. It's a rather old book, but one of the best I've seen so far.

I don't want to spend a huge amount of money on reference material either, but I go  to said bookstore once in a while and have a look at what they have in stock. I usually end up buying a book or two but only affordable ones. There are exceptions of course (and the P-47 is the biggest one - i just love that aircraft)...

Greg

Bish, that twin messie jet qualifies in my book. Seen it somewhere, is a cool looking aircraft.

Hey, your first 1/32nd? Can't wait to watch and hear your impressions. Been 30+ years since I did a 1/32nd.

Plea for help: I have a couple pieces left to install in my A8/R2. Looks like an ammo belt chute or something. I've looked at some installations I found on google image search and have a general idea (sort of), but am still confused.

Anyone have a closeup pic or something?

Here's the mystery part and the big 'ol hole in the wing it goes in somewhere. :)

Ah yes Greg, you are coming along nicely now. That little seed we've planted in your head concerning reference books is beginning to sprout. Good. Very very gooooood. Mwa ah ah ah!

Thanks Clemens. I think I'm starting to understand the value of these high dollar reference books everyone is always talking about.

Bish: The 262 is way to elegant. A proper "twin" has to look sluggish and big, not elegant and streamlined...

Greg: I think I have a decent photo of an open 190 gun bay in my big reference book and at least one diagram of that area I could send you, but I have to find them first. Oh AND get Photobucket working . I already send them an email and they are working on it...

Bish, that twin messie jet qualifies in my book. Seen it somewhere, is a cool looking aircraft.

Hey, your first 1/32nd? Can't wait to watch and hear your impressions. Been 30+ years since I did a 1/32nd.

Plea for help: I have a couple pieces left to install in my A8/R2. Looks like an ammo belt chute or something. I've looked at some installations I found on google image search and have a general idea (sort of), but am still confused.

Anyone have a closeup pic or something?

Here's the mystery part and the big 'ol hole in the wing it goes in somewhere. :)

Another 109 GB,,,,,,,,,,  hmmmmm....................

mustang1989

blackdog62

   RAMPING UP FOR THE  109 GB........YAAAA.  :)

Be looking for a 109GB feeler the last weekend of August.

Going to be another good one, and should be my first ever 32nd aircraft. And yesterday I ordered that other kit I mentioned to you, just waiting to here back from the company about paying them, will post some pics one it arrives.

JOE RIX

SchattenSpartan

That's a god question mate! With a very simple answer: It's cheaper!

The Royal Class costs (with shipping):

• 166$ at Sprue Brothers
• 130€ at Eduard's store (=173$)
• 109£ at Hannants (=183$)

Yes it's the one with 2 kits inside. And a bunch of goodies. And a beer glass....

WOW! That's just nuts!

Though not uncommon, especially from SB. I have got a few kits from them that even with postage were cheaper than here in the UK.

Rigidrider

If any build could rival the 190 it would be the 109! Cant wait!

Doug

Yes, though of course there was one German aircraft that over shadows both

SchattenSpartan

Messerschmitt did more than one twin. remeber the Bf 110?

Does this count as a twin

SchattenSpartan

........remeber the Bf 110? 

Nope! I've never been much of a follower of warbirds until recently. Kinda odd for this bunch, I realise!!

I'm learning, sloooowly.

Messerschmitt did more than one twin. remeber the Bf 110?

Mike, it does sound like you'll need to bite the bullet, get the AB repaired. Wonder if you're like me, I hate sending stuff out for repair cuz I don't want to be without it. Even if not working. Doh!

Sooner you get it sent out, sooner you'll get er back. (that what I tell myself, anyway)

BD, you're ahead of me, Still not taken the reference book plunge. Too cheap to spend the $, plus my significant other would  not understand. That said, I might be getting closer to it cuz I had more accuracy questions come to mind during my (late) second 190 here.

Re the ME-410, I didn't know Messie even made a twin. Shows ya what I know. Awkward looking bird, to my eye. All the more reason to build one! That blunt nose reminds me of an ancient Piper twin I did a few hours of training in decades ago.

I got the Meng 410 as well and I don't think it needs any AM parts apart from seatbelts, wheels and a metal barrel for the 50mm cannon... The amount of detail in this kit is simply amazing!

I hope they get your AB fixed, Mike. There's nothing more annoying than a misbehaving airbrush...

blackdog62

one that I have become very interested in is the ME-410

Sorry to hear about your AB issues Thunder. Hope it gets back soon.

Well, I just mixed my homebrew RLM 75 and applied it to the wings and tail of the A-8, and it looks a lot better than the Acryl. Unfortunately the AB is still giving trouble -- I thought it had got into a good phase from the way it behaved on some spot spraying to finish a tank project, but no, it's still spattering with the best of 'em. It looks like I'll be sending it to have those repairs after all. I can have it away on the other side of the weekend, which sadly means I won't get to finish the camo on this bird over the weekend as I'd hoped...

Mike/TB379

Greg my wife would agree with the fanatic.....lol I have had several luft books delivered this week and I'm still waiting on the bomber and fighters  of the Luftwaffe. Of world war 2  to show up

.one that I have become very interested in is the ME-410 just a beautiful bird looks like something that could be built today. Maybe except for the barbet fusalge  guns

If any build could rival the 190 it would be the 109! Cant wait!

Doug

Sweet!  Will keep an eye out for it.

I wonder if it could top 6,000 posts.

Allen

blackdog62

Speaking of 109 paint I just ordered a book that's all about the late war 109s colours and is in colour.

I think it's called the last listserv eagles and there colours. And I purchased every RLM colour paint that model master makes.            RAMPING UP FOR THE  109 GB........YAAAA.  :)

And so yet another Luftwaffe fan(or perhaps fanatic??) is born.........

Mike,

Looking forward to watching.....

I'll be in that -- I have two ready to go... As of tomorrow, I'm back on the big 190 A-8!

M/TB379

blackdog62

   RAMPING UP FOR THE  109 GB........YAAAA.  :)

Yems I would like to see that production line also I remember the picks early on. That's ambitious. Hats off to you.

WOW.  A royal kit I would love to get my hands on one. I'll break down one day and grab one.

The hole thing is cool the beer class but for me having a piece of a 109 is mind blowing.even more

So if it had paint on it.

Speaking of 109 paint I just ordered a book that's all about the late war 109s colours and is in colour.

I think it's called the last listserv eagles and there colours. And I purchased every RLM colour paint that model master makes.            RAMPING UP FOR THE  109 GB........YAAAA.  :)

SchattenSpartan

Sorry for all the text. ........

What? I'm sure we are all curious about the Fw assembly line. If you can't post pics, text is the next best thing.

Sorry for all the text. I thought it's best to at least give you guys an idea of where I'm at instead of simply not telling anything untill PB works for me again...

Nothing yet, but I think I can get it working. Give me a few days. If it's still not cooperating, I'll just try to find another website...

Progress so far:

• Engines of all Doras painted and assembled
• All wings assembled and seams sanded down
• Fuselages of the Tamiya and Hasegawa kits assembled and cleaned up
• all engine parts for the Eduard A-8/R2 cleaned up and painted (ready for assembly)
• Fabric seatbelts built up and glued in place on several 190s

I'm still waiting on some Dora exhausts (Quickboost) so I can't close up the Dora fuselages yet. The A-8 still needs all the fuselage PE installed before I can paint the engine and forward fuselage interior, so that's on top of my to-do list ATM.

I ran out of gel CA so I'll get me some tomorrow as well as placing an order for some wheels: The Eduard wheels are really disappointing and Tamiya's wheels are horrible and don't work at all (the way too small diameter doesn't really help witth countering the short gear legs and they lack details. Do you guys have any recommendations regarding the wheels? I have access to Brengun, Eduard Brassin, True Details and CMK via Hannants. Which ones do you think are best?

I won't get any bench time in on my 190s untill Saturday because the mailman brought a surprise present from one of my relatives today. It's an awesome new piece of photo-hardware but I'm not very familiar with it so I'll spend the next days trying to figure things out.

Oh and my LHS finally got a shiny new toy in that I ordered a long time ago. I already picked it up a week ago but didn't get a chance to use it yet. Stay tuned for that one

Hey Clemens, Any luck with photobucket? I am dying to see some pics of your 190s. Maybe potobucket is retaliating after having been stuffed to the hilt with progress pics from 9 different FW 190 builds. Just a random thought.

SchattenSpartan

That's a good question mate! With a very simple answer: It's cheaper!

The Royal Class costs (with shipping):

• 166$ at Sprue Brothers
• 130€ at Eduard's store (=173$)
• 109£ at Hannants (=183$)

Yes it's the one with 2 kits inside. And a bunch of goodies. And a beer glass....

I sort of half-expected that. Yet I'm still surprised!

Thanks for the cost breakdown (with shipping) .....very interesting. And why did Colonel Klink come to mind when I said that???

Oh yes, those as well