Fw 190 Butcher Bird 2013 (extended to June 2014) Group Build

A hearty welcome to the group build Darren! I'll get you jotted down on the intro post! Can't wait to see this one being built, Joe

darson:Got you entered in on the intro posting pal!

Thanks Joe, I can't wait to peel the shrink wrap of the box and get that "fresh" styrene smell as I unbag those sprues.

Hey Darren, Can you answer a question I have about that kit? Does it come with both the flat and blown canopy options? Thank you, Joe

Welcome, Darren!

You are going to love that kit!

I'd be interested in the provided canopy options as well.

Welcome aboard Darren!

darson

Thanks Joe, I can't wait to peel the shrink wrap of the box and get that "fresh" styrene smell as I unbag those sprues.

Darren,

 Welcome to the Fw190 crazy house of fun.   I built the A-3 Tamiya 190 and loved it.  And I'm eyeing the same one you are building as well as a Tamiya He162.   Can't wait to see what the parts look like and how they fit.

That kit gives you more than one paint/decal option doesn't it?

John

Greg

Joe (Rix), excellent recovery job! Now you've gone and done it. I've heard folks discuss Mr Surfacer but these are the first pics I've seen of it in action. My Avenger paint peel recovery pales in comparison to your job (couldn't get rid of the stepped edge by sanding, as somebody warned me might happen). So I've added Mr Surfacer to my next online order list.  And thank you for your encouraging comm

Greg - I'm so glad I could push you over the edge. I can say with complete conviction that Mr. Surfacer is an absolute essential on my bench. I figured I'd toss you a couple of tidbits on Mr. Surfacer if you are unfamiliar with it. As you may be aware it comes in three different "grits", 500, 1000 & 1200. 1200 being more of a primer than actual filler. It should be noted that Mr. Surfacer is not for filling large gaps and steps. But works wonders on small gaps and scratches. Also, Mr. Surfacer shrinks when it dries so be prepared to apply extra coats to fill the desired area. There is also another product they make, Mr. Dissolved Putty, that is bit thicker and has more filling capacity. that product can be a challenge to find. Mr. Surfacer is wonderful in that it dries fast and sands beautifully. You couple this stuff with Silly Putty and your modeling will become shear JOY!!

Thanks for the Mr Surfacer tips, Joe! I look forward to trying it, but hopefully not to repair a fouled paint job!!! :)

JOE RIX

Hey Darren, Can you answer a question I have about that kit? Does it come with both the flat and blown canopy options? Thank you, Joe

Yes it sure does, along with canopy masks for both types.  The kit only provides one front canopy section though.

falconmod

That kit gives you more than one paint/decal option doesn't it?

John

John the kit provides marking options for

Fw190 F-9 Munich 1945 with blown canopy - This is the bird that I'm doing

Fw190 F-8 Hungary winter 44-45 with blown canopy and a white tiger stripe camo scheme

Fw190 F-8 Italy 1944 Desert Scheme with flat canopy.

Cheers

Darren - Thank You for the info. That it has a flat canopy coupled with decals for an Italian desert scheme makes this immensely interesting to me. I may just have to go that route for a second build. For Crying Out Loud! What am I saying. The last thing I need is another dadgum kit. Oh well, That hasn't stopped me yet. Besides, there seems to be this overwhelming desire here to model mottling. All this obssesion with modeling of mottling and not a single desert scheme. What's up with that.

Alrighty Then... Had a fairly good build day today It rained most of the day so I got out my Home Beer Brew Kit, Got a batch of beer brewing and fermenting, and sat down at the bench... All in all a pretty good day, the only thing I'm a bit disapointed with so far is the ugly gap that had opened up at the wing root on both sides, easily fixed with some strip styrene, but a gap none the less. Any way, here are some more pics...

That's some exceptional work, buddy! You make it all look so easy...

I hope I can get all those cockpits finished before September (I have to go on a 3-week trip in September, so no bench time for me...)

Rigidrider:Doug. First off.......Dude!!! That friggin looks awesome!!! Really lovin the detail and the work involved there!! Secondly...I had the same problem with the wing roots at the back of the wing. The fix.............Eduard PE set 48 556. There is a reinforcement strap that lays in perfect and covers it all up and it looks bad A!! This set has all kinds of goodies too for your next Eduard build. Really great set I'll tell you. Back to the original compliment though. Man she's a beaut!!!!

 Okay, This is simply unbelievable. My wife skyped me from Seattle last night and tells me "We're going to a vintage airshow tomorrow. And I so wish you were here." She wasn't really sure  what exactly it was all about just that my stepson in law wanted to go. I told her that was awesome. to enjoy herself and take lots of pictures for me. Well, she skypes me today to tell me that she felt really really bad that I was not there as they went to the Flying Heritage Museum in Everett, Wash. to see Luftwaffe Day. Yup, she got to see a Storch, Me 109 E-3, and this,

the only flying FW 190 A-5 in the world. Each of them doing a flight demonstration. I was dumb founded. She said that she now has a much better appreciation for my passion for aircraft and modeling. She thoroughly enjoyed herself. Not to mention she said" Wow, they're louder than a NASCAR race". That's my gal. If you are not familiar with this museum check out their website. They also have the only FW 190 D-13 in existence. They don't fly it due to it's rarity. Needless to say I will be going there at X-mas.

Doug - I have to say that you are out doing yourself on this one. Simply remarkable detailing and fantastic painting. It really is a pleasure to see your work.

Thanks everybody for the warm welcome to the build, I am sure it's going to be a lot of fun,

Rigidrider that's some awesome looking detail you are packing into what I assume is the Eduard D-9, please keep the updates coming.

Here's my obligatory open box shot that I took last night before I started snipping parts from the sprues.

Overall the kit is very much like the Tamiya Fw190 A-8 which I backdated to A-7 configuration a few years ago.  It was a lot of fun and an easy build which is really what I'm looking forward to with this one.

G'Day Darren,

It's been a while. Very glad to see you in this GB.

Cheers

Tony

Doug, she is looking amazing. Really appreciate being able to watch your build in progress.

Today's dumb question: It seems most folks assemble the fuselage, wings, horiz stabs, fill, sand, then prime or paint. It appears you painted first and I am curious why. I pre-painted on my last build, because there was a paint color change at the wing root line, and the fit was so perfect seemed easier than masking. But that's obviously not the case here. Note that I am in the early stages of developing a sense of order regarding build sequence (beyond following the instructions), and that is why I ask.

Joe, really cool that your boss developed a sense of deeper appreciation of your love of aircraft and building. Luftwaffe Day. I'm sitting her imagining all of us meeting there for a day. That would be awesome. :)

So glad you posted this. I am traveling to Sacramento in Oct, and if my better half goes with me, half-planning a drive to Vancouver, with multiple stops. Everett just got added to my stop list.

Darren, I'm new, so it is seems awkward to welcome you to the GB, however, welcome to the GB! I am eager to watch your progress. This will be my first Luftwaffe build, your Tamiya kit was the other kit I was considering (ended up getting a Hasegawa).

Greg - Boy, I sure hope you get that opportunity. Should you actually head that way then you will also want to go to the Museum of Flight in Seattle. I went there 3 yrs ago and it is absolutely fabulous. It's right near the airport. Here's a link for you to get the ole juices flowing:

http://www.museumofflight.org/

Darren - Thanks for the sprue pics. That was enough to get me to pull the trigger on this kit. Ordered it off ebay today.

How about taking some pics for us, Greg?

Darren: I have to get me one of those kits. Thanks for the pics! Your A-7 looks really good BTW!

Guys... Thank you again for the kind words, I'm very pleased so far with the way "White 12" is going together.

Joe... Man, What a trip that would be! The nearest I ever got to anything that cool was while visiting London one of the times I went. I cant remember the names of the museums but I think 1 was the Royal war museun and they had an amazing collection of aircraft and such the other one was also around London and also had an amazing collection. The one thing I most loved was to trod the decks of the HMS Belfast. One of the ships that hunt down and sank the Bismark.

Greg, I'm a bit confusede, I always paint the pit, motor and such first, its just easier to do then mask, then try to paint after assy, I never paint the fuse and wings etc... until assy. I know some do, but I dont know how they do it, then assy and possibly touch up after assy? Take care guys! Have a great week!

Doug

Ta Da! The paint pull up debacle is repaired and repainted. Sheesh, can I get back to decaling now?

Fantastic work, mate! Looks like nothing happened at all! No I hope I can do the same thing with my Tamiya Wildcat and all those rivets I sanded smooth... (my Gunze paint seems to sand without any problems or chipping though)

Joe  That sounds like a fantastic trip and I really glad your wife enjoyed it.  I’ve only managed to haul SWMBO to an air show a couple of times and she had as much fun as she does when I force her to enter a model shop with me, ie none .

Greg  I’m with Doug here in that I’m a little confused re your post.  It would be extremely difficult to paint things like the cockpit, engine wheel wells, etc  after you have assembled the kit.  My normal sequence is:

• Build up sub assembles that require individual painting, things like instrument panel, cockpit tub, landing gear, engine, prop.
• Paint and detail these bits and pieces
• Assemble the rest of the kit
• Mask off the cockpit, wheel wells and engine
• Paint and weather the aircraft

Cheers

Good save Joe! I just went back a few pages to see what the problem was and you recovered that one very nicely.

Cheers

Nice recovery Rix. Definately worth all the effort of sanding and re-scribing/masking.

Doug I'm liking the way the Dora's looking. The cockpit looks great and all that detail firewall forward is really gonna set the model apart!

Well here's a short update on my 190.  Didn't get much done over the weekend, just the rest of the decals on.  Hopefully I will be able to flat coat it and start some weathering on it.

John

Very, very nice looking John. You are doing an outstanding job there.

Well, All I can say is I am knowing nothing but dismay. Went to apply some gloss cote over my repair job and for some reason it orange peeled and pitted on me. I know not how to fix that. I guess that is what I get for trying to short cut things with a spray can of some unproven brand. Yet, it had worked great the first coat I applied. Time to step away from the bench and take a deep breath.