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OFFICAL NATURAL METAL FINISH GB V (2013-2014)

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Posted by bvallot on Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:03 PM

Big Blue

The wheels are the kit wheels (blech) painted Nato Black.  I masked the centers using a plastic Staedtler circle template, and painted them Alclad Aluminum.  The landing gear has the Eduard p/e attached, and was sprayed with the same Krylon silver I used for the wings.  The prop blades, gear doors and exhausts are all resin after-markets.  I painted the exhausts in layers: Flat Black -> Magnesium -> thin red-brown -> very thin rust, and dry brushed silver after they dried.  

Blue that sounds like a good start for painting your exhausts. The only thing I would mention to add to that is one or two coats of a light gray on the tips of the exhausts.  The allied forces in the war used a high leaded octane fuel, and this lead would get deposited on the sides of fuselage wherever the exhausts where located.  The scale you're working on may only really allow for one quick light coat of a light gray.  More than that won't visually stand up from further back.  Any real layering of light gray colors would only be worth depicting along the sides of the wing/fuselage.  And you didn't see too much of that on NMF mustangs.  But as far as the exhaust stacks go...consider dry brushing or airbrushing some thinned out light gray along the tips.  =] 

Just remember if you do...leave the first alone...cause there'd be nothing depositing lead on the first.  Only the ones following, naturally. =]

Try it out!

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:43 AM

I had a look at your Crusader BTW and it looks damn fantastic! I'm sure I can learn a lot from watching your build here!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:39 AM

Looking really good, Blue!

Tug: It's never too late to join a GB unless it has an end date for registration (this one doesn't), The NMF GB is special regarding the date you can join anyway because it is an annual group build. You can join whenever you want and if you can't finish your project in time, just continue working on it in the next round! Wink

Just tell me the scale of your Super Sabre and I'll put it on the list.

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Posted by Big Blue on Saturday, December 14, 2013 5:22 PM

Ok, time for an update.

This time of year is busy, so I have not had the time to work on my P-51 that I would have liked.  Here's what I have done since my last post:

First, I have completed spraying the NMF on the fuse and wings, etc.  After getting down the base coat, I went back and picked out a few panels for contrast.  Once they had time to dry, I masked off and painted the yellow ID bands on the wings and tail stabilizers using Gunze Mr. Color yellow (with a dash of Orange-Yellow), and the olive drab on the nose using Tamiya acrylics.

Once they had some time to dry, I masked off the red tail stripes of the 31st FG.  Eagle Strike includes decals for these, but for a couple of reasons, I decided I wanted to paint them instead.  First, Eagle Strike provides markings for 4 different aircraft, but they all share a common set of tail stripes.  The decal for the stabilizers has 4 stripes, but the pictures of Captain Voll's ship that I have found show only 3 stripes.  I scanned the decal sheet into Photoshop, and after some quick napkin math, moved the stripes to evenly space the three I wanted to keep.  When I was satisfied, I printed the pattern out, and used it to cut some tape into appropriately sized bands.  Here's the result:

I still need to paint the candy stripes on the tail and rudder.  Once again, I have printed a pattern (this time just a straight scan of the decal), and plan to cut Tamiya tape.  Eagle Strike provides a decal of partial tail ID numbers (only showing the part of the numbers not covered by the red stripes).  In order to make sure that my painted stripes line up with these numbers, I also printed a copy of the numbers and covered them with Scotch tape to use as an alignment jig.  

While all of that dried, I spent some time on the "fiddly bits" that I had previously ignored:

You can see the ID number "jigs" at the top of the picture.

The wheels are the kit wheels (blech) painted Nato Black.  I masked the centers using a plastic Staedtler circle template, and painted them Alclad Aluminum.  The landing gear has the Eduard p/e attached, and was sprayed with the same Krylon silver I used for the wings.  The prop blades, gear doors and exhausts are all resin after-markets.  I painted the exhausts in layers: Flat Black -> Magnesium -> thin red-brown -> very thin rust, and dry brushed silver after they dried.  Finally I hit them with a bit of MiG Black Smoke pigment.  I also cut pieces of aluminum tubing for the guns, and painted them with Alclad Magnesium (the closest I had to gun metal.)  The tail wheel needs to have its centers painted, and everything will eventually get an oil paint wash.

That's all I have for now.  My next steps will be to paint the tail stripes and prop spinner red.  At some point, I will need to deal with the canopy, and I need to install the scratch built guns and deal with the sloppy holes I drilled to mount them.  Still thinking my strategy through on that one...

TUG
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Posted by TUG on Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:07 PM

Hi,

I'm a newbie on here but would love to join this group build. Is it too late for that?

I'm about to start - next day or so - a Trumpeter F100D and enjoy doing metal finishes. I'd certainly like to be part of this. This would be the first time I have participated in anything like this.

Your input on whether this would be okay at this late hour would be appreciated and if so what do I have to do

Regards - Tug

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, December 13, 2013 3:14 PM

She's on the list! I love the look of the Lightning!

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Posted by bvallot on Friday, December 13, 2013 2:49 PM

SchattenSpartan

bvallot: She's looking awesome! Nice work with those decals! You can build as many models for this GB as you want! Do you want me to put that Lightning on the build list?

Yes sir, if you could please.  I feel I'm getting the hang of this NMF scheme and now I want some more. =D

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Misty on Friday, December 13, 2013 2:28 PM

Cheers Shatten, and thanx to Randy, awesome badge, Ill wear it with pride :-)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, December 13, 2013 1:50 PM

bvallot: She's looking awesome! Nice work with those decals! You can build as many models for this GB as you want! Do you want me to put that Lightning on the build list?

talentless: Sorry, I created all the personal badges (I think you were referring to them) already, but i completely forgot to upload them. Embarrassed Shame on me...

All the personal badges are at the front page now. Feel free to put them in your signature instead of the normal GB badge.

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Friday, December 13, 2013 12:26 PM

do i make my own GB badge?

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:51 PM

Hey Spartan. Is it possible to submit another entry still. I've seen all these recent add ons so I wanted to maybe do one more as I'm nearing the end of this one. I just found a 1:48 Academy P-38J Lightning that I think will look great as a NMF. =]

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Big Blue on Friday, December 6, 2013 2:53 PM

Looks great bv!  I've made some progress finishing off spraying the Alclad, and will post pictures once I get all the tape off.

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Posted by Misty on Thursday, December 5, 2013 3:52 AM

Wow, thats starting to really lovely :-)

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:18 AM

Here's another quickie.  Making some progress with the decaling now.  I did have a problem with one of my stars breaking on me (which virtually never happens!) but cut one more out and place it back on.  I will have to touch it up some.  I also finished the other side of the angle lines...aaaaaaaaaand just realized I still haven't painted the damn numbers that go along with them. =P

Here it is...starting to come together.

Close up of the nude nose art.

You can see how bright it stays.  I'm hoping to weather these decals down some to take away some of this contrast.

And here are two other views of the left side:

It's gettin' there! =]

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Big Blue on Monday, December 2, 2013 8:55 PM

Looking good bvallot!  I love the angle lines.  

I got back from our Thanksgiving travel yesterday, and sprayed a coat of Alclad Airframe Aluminum over the black Krylon I had laid down before we left.  I am trying for a different look than the P-47 I just completed, so I gave it a more complete coating than I did on the Thunderbolt.  I expect that this will result in less of a weathered look (wow shiny) , so I will need to try some different techniques to make it look battle-used.  

Next step is to hit some panels with a few different shades of Alclad.  

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, December 2, 2013 2:09 PM

Back after some time away for the Thanksgiving holidays.  I'm almost ready to lay down some future to seal my acrylic painted surfaces.  I have just one more spot to deal with before that though.  Certain P-51s that I believe may have been limited to long range escorts had angle lines painted on which I think was to maintain course headings over great distances.  I've seen AM decals that provide them but I wanted to try my own hand at painting these on myself.  After some study of these planes, I've found that the lines converge right at the head rest of the seat (which makes perfect sense, right).  There's a 20, 35, 50, 70, and 80 degree radian along the most forward part of the wings.  So I prepped some Flat Black and brought out the masking tape and my protractor.  So far I'm pretty pleased with the outcome:


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

Here you can see I've already scratched away very carefully where I presume hoses and maintenance would have beaten up these lines.  I'll repeat this on the other side and hand paint the numbers since this is too small for a stencil.

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Misty on Monday, December 2, 2013 11:14 AM

I assume as its a ground trainer the instruments are identical to an in service plane. I have no history on ground trainers, im afraid, i would think it was used for familiarisation with a single seat for pilots,  and maybe for ground crew practise. I had to get new decals, and it was one of the russian schemes provided. it had to be russian as i had russian stencils. I would be interested if anyone else knows anything aboutvit too :-) . If you need any advice on variants i have plenty of reference material on them

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, December 2, 2013 10:53 AM

Taxtp:  As far as painting with Alclad II goes, it does not require any future to seal the paint.  It's quite a durable surface.  There is a series of clear coats from Alclad II that range from light sheen to matte that you can apply after any weathering you've done.  Apply it in light coats to minimize any reduction in the finish you have and see what you like.  As far as the decals go, the high-shine Alclads shouldn't have any kind of decal setter solution or you risk ruining the surface.  However, I've read and found out for myself that MicroSol will not ruin the high shine surface for Polished Aluminum.  Still, apply it carefully and take care of any runs quickly.  =]

Talent:  Damn nice looking MiG.  You've really done a wonderful job on it.  I kept forgetting to ask you about it.  When you first started decaling it I noticed the word on the nose below the cockpit said "trainer" so i was curious if you knew anything about the history of the jet that stood out or if it was just a scheme you picked out for another reason.  Also, do you know if there is any difference in the cockpit or instrument panel layout for trainers?  I plan on doing a MiG sooner or later here...just looking for a heads up between all the Fs, PFs, S/Ms, MF variants.

=]

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Big Blue on Sunday, December 1, 2013 2:44 PM

That looks absolutely fantastic, talentless.  Inspirational!

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Posted by Misty on Sunday, December 1, 2013 1:36 PM

Thanksspartan, could i use the third one plz?

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, December 1, 2013 12:53 PM

She's looking damn great, Talent! Your NMF looks awesome and I really like the amount of detail you put into this one! Is there any particular pic you'd liek to see at the front page?

Blue: Looking very nice!

Tony: I like her! All those different metal colors add a lot of interest to the model!

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, December 1, 2013 12:02 PM

Super stunning!

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Posted by Misty on Sunday, December 1, 2013 10:52 AM

Well. the first one is done. This is the Academy MiG-21PF. None of the resin or PE used was actually designed for this kit so a bit of squeezing and chopping was needed to shoehorn it all in. The pics are a bit stark, I'll maybe do a few more outside if we get a bit of sun this week. This is a ground trainer. I have no idea if it was a decommissioned airframe, or if it was airworthy, so it is what it is.

I will eventually finish the OEZ MF, but i need a break and start something new. it probably will have to leak over to the new year. these are reduced size pics, clicking them should open my Flikr account where full size ones can be seen, along with a few more pics, if you want.





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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, December 1, 2013 10:04 AM

Nice looking Sabre there.

I have also applied all decals straight over the top of alclad without ANY carrier film showing! These were even Academy decals!!!

I didn't use any setting solution atall either.

Theuns

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Posted by Big Blue on Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:58 AM

It looks great, Tony/Taxtp. The contrasting panels work well.

I'm not an expert, but on my P-47, I applied decals directly to the Alclad with no problems.  I eventually added a coat or two of Alclad Light Sheen to protect everything.  It did change the finish somewhat, but not so much that I wouldn't use it again.  I have not tried Future over Alclad, but have read mixed opinions about it reducing the realism of the NMF.  

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Posted by taxtp on Friday, November 29, 2013 3:46 PM

Here is a couple of progress photos for my F-86. I've used a variety of Alclad II aluminium shades on it, and Stainless Steel for the gun panel. It's not perfect, this is my first use of this paint on an aircraft and I'm still learning about it, but I think it looks ok. I'll shade a few more of the smaller panels too. I used Duraluminum for the centre wing panels, which I think is OK.

How about decalling over Alclad ? I would use a coat of Future over a  camouflaged aircraft, then decl, Future and flat coat. What approach works best in this case ? I'm a bit reluctant to spray clear over it, in case it changes the nature of the finish.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:59 PM

Looks good Blue, and informative. I hope to have my first go at Natural Metal in a very long time tonight.

It's a 1/72 F-86, primed with Mr Surfacer 1000, then polished with Megular polish. If I get the opportunity, I'll hit it with some Alclad tonight.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Big Blue on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:45 PM

Gunner, that's awesome!  Looks great.

Rudd, thanks for the nice thoughts.  If I can do it, so can you.  Smile

Quick update (and boring pictures):

I have finished filling and sanding the panel lines on my wings using Mr. Surfacer 500 &1200.  For whatever reason, I was unable to make the lines disappear completely, even after 4 fillings and sandings.  It seems I just hit a point where Mr. Surfacer wasn't going to fill any further (or perhaps my sanding technique left something to be desired.)  That said, the lines are pretty subtle, and in keeping with the aging and loss of putty due to wear and tear (at least to my mind), so I'm ok with it.

I sprayed a coat of thinned Mr. Surfacer 1200 as a primer, and added some dark streaks and splotches a-la Lawdog for a bit of variety.  I then painted the wings with decanted Tamiya Silver Leaf spray paint  (TS-30) hoping it would look sufficiently different than the Alclad I will be using for the rest of the aircraft.  I am hoping for a contrast between the "natural metal" and the "painted" surfaces.  After giving it time to dry, I rubbed it down a bit with micro mesh to give it a little more of a worn appearance.

We'll see how it looks next to the Alclad, but I have to say the Silver Leaf appears more metallic than I was expecting.

I used Krylon Fusion decanted and airbrushed for the black undercoat when I painted my P-47.  It sprays very nicely, and seems to provide a decent base for the Alclad, but it took 4 or  5 days for the paint to cure enough for me to continue painting.  With that in mind, I wanted to get that coat on my P-51 before I head off for a few days with my in-laws over the Thanksgiving holiday.  Here is a final shot with the wings masked off, and the Krylon sprayed over the rest of the aircraft:

To all those here in the States, Happy Thanksgiving.  To the rest, be well.

Blue.

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Posted by Misty on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:20 AM

certainly looks metal to me :-) its damn nice too.

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Posted by B52Gunner on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:35 PM

Well, don't know if this classifies but after finishing my 'Stang, I did a War of the Worlds model (Tom Cruise vintage) and it's painted in Dark Aluminum.  I built the lighting from scratch using LEDs (4 white and 4 blue) and it's powered by a 9 volt battery.  The top is painted grape on the inside and then frosted over the top triangles with dark aluminum as well.

 

Check Six!  C'est La Vie!

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