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OFFICAL NATURAL METAL FINISH GB V (2013-2014)

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Posted by bvallot on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:13 PM

That's incredibly nice Talent. =]  You may have stated it before, but what kind of steps are you taking to adhere the decals to thin foil?  Somehow I feel like I remember you said you used a coat of future?

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Posted by B52Gunner on Monday, November 18, 2013 7:25 PM

Talentless, I just can't believe my eyes!  I wish I could see it in person - the finish looks like the real McCoy!  Excellent!

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Posted by B52Gunner on Monday, November 18, 2013 7:24 PM

That looks fantastic!  Excellent work there!

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Monday, November 18, 2013 7:33 AM

slow progress, all the decals are on plus a few bits like doors and gun pack. door rams and rocket pods need to go on then i can start adding the small bits like discargers sensors and pitot , and finish off the pit.



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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:18 AM

Talent: Very nice work!

bvallot: Your Alclad finish looks outstanding!

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:28 AM

The new Begemot decals have arrived and are going down lovely. I gave the plane a coat of future to give the decals something to stick to first as they tend to flake off the bare foil. Decaling is not finished yet tho'.  ill need to give it a coat of light sheen to knock the shine down later. its also on its wheels now so its getting there :-) .

This mssus has decided she knows better than me, but I will have to pay for the help first with a bit of a stroke. she has just plonked herself down on the flaps i was doing and is having a good study of the instructions. Women!!


all images clickable for bigger pics.

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Monday, November 11, 2013 7:18 PM

thats a good effect! ill have to steal that one off you.

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, November 11, 2013 3:00 PM

I'm making some more progress on getting this mustang looking closer to something she ought to.  The first four pictures just show the tail and cowl painted up finally. I will have to come back and touch up a few spots.  I have found that if I get it close to right the first time before I've painted too much, it's easier to just add a little more here and there.

Here they are:


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


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image by brittvallot, on Flickr

This last one you can see where I had left some of the tape escape my notice.  An easy fix for whenever I load back up on the Polished Aluminum again to touch up a few spots toward the end.

These next four show the adjustment I made on the ammo bay doors.  I masked off the panels and came back over the edges with the Magnesium Alclad in light coats.  I left the coats uneven in terms of how i put it down in an effort to show nonuniform wearing. I hit the very edges of the panels with the Magnesium and came back with the Duraluminum back toward the center to tighten up the effect and knock down whatever happened to look to be too much of a contrast.  Worked like a charm!  I would recommend the Magnesium in light coats for anyone looking to exploit panel lines in some fashion when you can't seem to get them back the way you want.

Here they are again:


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

top view again.  This is really what I was looking for and this picture is actually a good representation of what the plane looks like.


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

That's that.  I hope to get through most of the painting this week and move on to decaling and weathering.

=]

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:32 AM

OMFG!... I just tried to put the Academy kits decals on Super Angry the damn things will not come off the backing paper and break up too. not only that they are out of register as well. Angry

this means more money on getting some decent decals. FML Wilted Flower

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:11 AM

Talent: Looking really nice!

bvallot: You are doing a fantastic job with those alclad colors!

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Posted by bvallot on Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:27 AM

Finally got the chance to follow up with some Polished Aluminum on the fuselage.  I find it going on very nicely.  Key thing here i noticed is to go with light coats.  Tape off the panels you're working on and paint in light coats.  Allowing that Gloss black to come through helps that pigment look more like metal.  As for the paint itself, I'm really excited about this Alclad's characteristics.  It's a really nice choice for NMF like this.  The more I play with painting some test tiles out, the more I find you can really get away with only a few Alclads for a variety of projects.

So here it is:  (again I included several of the same view to better illustrate how the light reflects)


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Friday, November 8, 2013 6:11 AM

you made the right choices on your mustang, its looking reaal good.

ive been paying with the begemot stencils for the PF. they go down well and there's a shed load of them too. eight on each rocket pod and fourteen on each pylon alone !! :-O . the academy pylons are ok i suppose, no sway braces or spacers and im not sure they are even the correct pylons for a pf, but hey ho, ill try an eduard one next (after the Neomega UM resin conversion  anyway :-) ) they are still shiny but will get a semi flat coat before mounting.

these are Eduards wheels on G-Factor legs. not 100% sure about these legs. they are more detailed than SAC ones, they come with the scissor, parallelogram and some hydraulic lines moulded on but im not sure i like them. we will see how the look against the SAC ones ill be (eventually) putting on the MF. the wheels are very nice though :-)



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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, November 7, 2013 4:58 PM

Talent, that MiG is brilliant. Keep it coming.

I've finally gotten around to getting more done with my mustang.  After a lot time and thought, I've finally gotten the wings painted.  I went with a White Aluminum on the undersurface of the wings (all done with light coats) and Duraluminum on top.  I also added a little bit of the Dark Aluminum to that before painting for some added contrast. My tests weren't convincing enough to see the change in tone.  The top is just painted with the Duraluminum.  You'll note where I've treated the gun bay doors with some light sanding again and a reapplication of Dark Aluminum after masking it off.  All of this will be given some touch ups before it's all said and done.  But I'm finding the best results are happening with LIGHT coats of the Alclad.

Here they are:  (naturally the light doesn't always allow for the best viewing with these pictures)


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr


image by brittvallot, on Flickr

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Sunday, October 27, 2013 3:45 AM

I loved the hasa 104, but was a bit p**#ed that there were no missiles in the box, maybe different boxings have different bits in the box tho.

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, October 27, 2013 1:38 AM

Dang thoat Mig aswell as the Sabre is comming on well!

I could not help myself, yesterday at the IPMS meeting I got a 1/48 F-104c Hasa kit, so I think I might have the next project for the GB LOL!

Theuns

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, October 25, 2013 11:33 AM

She's looking great, Talent!

Tony: nice work on your sabre as well!

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Friday, October 25, 2013 10:21 AM

everything that needs foiling is done (i think). a couple of pics of the main body and the oddsnsods. i was going to give it 2 aam's but i am unimpressed with the kit ones. i think the rocket pods look ok with the etch attatched . the gun will not be foiled... to many nooks and crannys and complicated surfaces for me to get a good result. u/c is just undercoatd at the mo'. its cast brass from (um ... cant remember... i look later). they are better looking than the sac ones and much MUCH stronger, which is good and bad. they will support anything, but are hard to cut and file etc.


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Posted by taxtp on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:26 PM

Here is my 1/72 F-86F. Still ironing out the bugs with the seams.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Monday, October 14, 2013 4:55 PM

Its quite resiliant to handling, i havent managed to damage it. BUT its easy to lift the foil at the edges of wings, tail etc, and in some places it can be easier to either use a touch of superglue to keep it down, or leave certain small bits and paint them instead. This is where tge planning/ compromise comes in. Its bset to foil right round edges using one piece so there is nothing to lift, but this is not always possible.

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, October 14, 2013 4:45 PM

I see.   Good to know! How do you find the finish holds up once it's completed?  Will it scratch off at all? Does it handle any kind of abuse well?

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Monday, October 14, 2013 4:08 PM

The fingerprint is there because i had just been over the rivets and panel lines with an artist ink pen, and hadnt cleaned off the wing surface with iso yet, its best to let it dry off a bit or you end up wiping the ink out of the recesses too. Fingerprints are not an issue when its cleaned properly.

Foiling is nothing to be scared of, you need a bucket of time and patience tho,. You need to figure out how to do the hard bits and be prepared to live eith slight imperfections and compromises too.

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, October 14, 2013 3:42 PM

Talent this looks damn amazing. I'm beginning to get anxious about trying it out myself now.  I did notice a finger print on the left wing...are those easy to get off?  I'm learning more and more how sensitive the Alclad black gloss is and it's taking a lot of fore thought and patience to make sure i'm not leaving any.  

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:36 PM

Agreed. You should ask if you could change your name, it's irritating...

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:24 PM

Wow! Thats some Awe inspiring stuff Talent...Feel strange calling you talentless....

 

 

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:29 PM

its so hard to take a decent pic of foil without good light so excuse the rubbibsh photos.spent all day on this, its getting there. just the other side of the fin  and the front to do.



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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:41 PM

I think it was mentioned in the linkk given by yourself, but ive seen it mentioned a few times.

Break an egg into a bowl, save the contents for lunch.

Crush the shells down,  stick em in a pan with  bout an inch of water,  boil it up and place your foil strips in it. Ive seen it said it takes between 1 and 5 mins to work, but i had to boil the hell out of it for over 10 to get anything to happen so ymmv. I suggest cleaning the foil with iso alcohol first as fingerprints will show up on the foil. I couldnt get any blue tones on it but the result looked just like well heated titanium which is what i was after so im happy. Maybe a clear blue wash or tickle with alclads burn colours would help.  i may give it a go on a scrap piece to see. Maybe not as its ok as is.

god news on the oez plane, the seam that split appears to be holding now so ill be restarting on that soon. the u/c legs have been delivered, one SAC set and one G-factor set. never seen gfactor stuff before. its cast brsss, looks quite nice and has a much better surface finish that the white metal sac legs.

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Posted by B52Gunner on Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:12 PM

@ talentless:  What is that technique you're talking about concerning the burnt titanium look using eggshells?  I'd like to know more about that if you'd care to share it with us?  It looks fantastic!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:19 AM

Thanks a lot for that link, Gunner! It's a great source for information!

Talentless: That burnt look is absolutely gorgeous!

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:54 AM

thought i would try the boil ti up with eggshells thing. seems to have done the trick quite well, looks just like burnt titanium with a nice bit of variation. result!!



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Posted by bvallot on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:19 PM

That's a wonderful link. Thanks to you B52Gunner!  I've felt this fog of mystery behind foiling and never really understood what kind of foil was being used and how it would even hold up.  This just answered all my stupid questions I've never wanted to ask.  =]

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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