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AIRCRAFT - Natural metal finish group build (ends 10/31/04)

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Posted by jimz66 on Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:14 PM
I apoligize for not updating the list of who is doing what. I am having to use three internet programs to visit the sites I normally visit so I have not been able to. That along with the fact that I just got my Drivers license this last week has taken a lot of my time. I get my car by this next weekend so I will try to have that finished by then. Cheers. I am also hoping for a last minute large project suprise for this build but no promises. Good Luck to all and stay in touch. Great job on your Mig Bones I am sure Mike will answer you sooner or later. Good Luck.
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Posted by Bones-coa on Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:05 PM
Update on my F-89J: I've had to put it away for now. I'm nearing time to paint it and I have not yet heard back from Mike Grant on the decals. I sent him some pics in hopes he could give me a quote. Maybe I'll hear from him soon. Sad [:(]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 13, 2004 2:44 PM
The A's and early C's, I think. Maybe a Canadian B.
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Posted by jimz66 on Saturday, March 13, 2004 2:17 PM
I did not know that they had F-101's in natural metal Finish.
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Posted by jpriceusmc on Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:58 AM
wibhi2, Thanks for the info. References show flush installation of the windows, but references on the RF-80 are pretty scarce. I'll give the stips a try.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 12, 2004 11:59 PM
Still trying to shove other things aside for my work! I have 2 B-52's and the B-58, all in 1/144, on a sort of "assembly line". F-101 needs a lot of work to get it that far. Not sure if all will be silver/natural metal, but at least 2.
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Posted by Gerarddm on Friday, March 12, 2004 6:49 PM
I am building Heller's Lockheed Constellation in 1/72 and want to do polished NMF on it, like the old American Airlines style. My questions are: 1. Is it EASIER to do BMF or use a burnishable paint? 2. Which LOOKS better? 3. How do you avoid overlapping foil lines if using BMF? Thanks-
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Posted by wibhi2 on Friday, March 12, 2004 4:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jpriceusmc

Just saw the thread, & was interested. I'm working on an RF-80A from the 45th TRS in Korea...BUT I'm having a problem trying to find a way to install clear windows in the C&H Miniatures resin nose conversion. It has a somewhat rough shape to the camera ports, and a sheet of clear acetate type plastic for the glass. If I just cut to shape and plug in the pieces, the glass won't be flush & C&H didn't include a ledge or brace to support them. Anyone have an idea? Please?

Thanks!


Can you lay-in some thin styrene strips along the back edge to form the ledge or backing? It'll take a little doing I'm sure. Do you references so the glazed area to be slightly recessed or flush with the fuselage exterior?
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Posted by jimz66 on Friday, March 12, 2004 3:39 PM
Welcome to the NMF Group Build and welcome to the FSM Forum JL. Great to have you. Due date for this build is Halloween, so take your time and build one or more winners.
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Posted by jlwilliams on Friday, March 12, 2004 3:13 PM
I just found this thread. I have a couple of planes that would do well in this build. The only thing is: I aint used to doing things that leave the ground!
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Posted by jimz66 on Friday, March 12, 2004 1:06 PM
Welcome to the group build. Are you interested? Sorry I can't help you out any on your question, but good luck.
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Posted by jpriceusmc on Friday, March 12, 2004 11:36 AM
Just saw the thread, & was interested. I'm working on an RF-80A from the 45th TRS in Korea...BUT I'm having a problem trying to find a way to install clear windows in the C&H Miniatures resin nose conversion. It has a somewhat rough shape to the camera ports, and a sheet of clear acetate type plastic for the glass. If I just cut to shape and plug in the pieces, the glass won't be flush & C&H didn't include a ledge or brace to support them. Anyone have an idea? Please?

Thanks!
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:34 PM
got my aftermarket (true details cockpit, 2 vacuformed dallas canopies, aires cockpit set, blackbox cockpit set, eduard cockpit set, 2 resin seats) parts today to start my collection of P-51Ds. i think im doing 2 P-51Ds for this GB. i wanted to try the different brands of detail sets to see which one i like the best. i plan to start a collection of european P-51D aces as well as the pacific theater D aces. i have been in the hobby only for about 8 months so far with only one "completed" model and about a half dozen that i slapped together just to have some airbrush fodder. i puchased an omni 5000 as soon as i decided to get into this hobby and figured theres no use in going through all the trouble of trying to get everthing perfect and then ruin the model with a crappy paint job. im really into fine detail and this is my first venture into aftermarket parts. but, you cant learn sitting on the side lines, so here i go. thanks for inviting me into the group build james. this is my first group build as well. hope to be involved in some more later on. i guess ill post my progress pics when i make some progress. my favorite detail set so far is the true details cockpits set with the eduard pe cockpits set coming in at a close second. there all cool though. the only problem is, i got to go the HS and purchase a razor saw and maybe a hold and fold. any suggestions are welcome as im an up and coming rookie modeler. i feel that my airbrushing skills are up to par enough to get serious now. i have an iwata hp-c and an omni 5000. i also have 2 single actions that collect dust since ive learned the double action methods. anybody looking for a paashe H and a badger 200G? ill sell both for $45 and ship them to you if you are inside the US mainland. thanks guys, later.
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Posted by wibhi2 on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:44 PM
DOH!!! getting my versions mixed up. If you can get them , use the falcons in the hasegawa air to air set - they are by far better.

K, on they cockpit. IRC, that gap was prevelant on the 72nd scale version as well.

Here's a question for da group mod: Does the build have to be a kit model or can it be more of a visceral model but with the same effects? Just asking out of curiousity.
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Posted by Bones-coa on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:05 PM
wibhi2, actually, the fit problem isn't the cockpit. It's the aircraft itself. There's a huge gap between the intakes and the fuselage. I'm using plastic strips to fill it in and sand it down.

Also, the Falcon missles in the kit are awefull. I really need to do something with them. Either that or replace them.

Oh, and the F-89 you're referring to with the falcon missles in the retractable wingtip pods is an H model. As far as I know, there isn't a kit out there for one. I do recall seeing someone do a scratch conversion to an H model though.

Mine's going to be an early J model which retained the D model rocket pods. That was the kind of F-89 my father worked on. It's nice to have someone you know who was around them. Big Smile [:D]
Dana F On the bench: Tamiya DO335B-2 with LOTS of Aires stuff (On Hold) Trumpeter A-10 with LOTS and LOTS of aftermarket goodies! (On Hold) Tamiya 240ZG (In work)
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Posted by shrikes on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 8:16 PM
They say the best paint stripper is something called Castrol Super Clean. Just marinate it for a while in the stuff and the paint just comes off! I haven't tried it myself because i can't find the stuff here. Of course, the drawback is that it'll wipe out the interior paint as well...

Oh, and they say never, never soak a model in paint thinner, or you'll melt it. I was about to do this myself one day... thank god for the forums!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 4:15 PM
What's the best way to strip an ASSEMBLED 1/48 B-17?
I built it a while ago and screwed it up...
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 1:30 PM
09-03-04
Got the tamiya F-84G at the weekend and ordered the Aires detail set, which looks sweet.
But won't have that for at least two weeks. Also waiting for another F-86D. What can I say, the first one was a joy to do...........
Also have an Academy Thunderbolt upsatirs and a P-38. Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.....

Liam
ps, Oggy wants in too, but not sure if he'll play.
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Posted by jimz66 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 8:42 AM
I am having trouble with cockpit painting. I can't seam to get it the way I want. I am going to try again this weekend. Then assemble the F-86D the F-100D is already partiy assembled and I need paint for the F-84G and the A-26B Invader. So I have a long way to go.
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Posted by wibhi2 on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 8:08 AM
Well Bones-coa, ya beat me to it. Haven't even started my f-89 yet. I just installed a BB cockpit set a RM harrier and I had fit problems as well (ended up using all my clamps to get the fuselage halves together). I also have the BB cockpit for the f-89 - where did you have fit problems?

It'd be pretty cool to detail the pods to show the falcon missile launchers in the open position - I have a picture of that somewhere.
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Posted by fightnjoe on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 12:56 AM
bones, at least you are building. i am still waiting for mine to arrive. should be here in two to three weeks.

btw i love the pic bones.

joe

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Posted by Bones-coa on Monday, March 8, 2004 9:06 PM
On my F-89J, I've got the fuselage together and the BB cockpit in it. It's not the best fitting thing in the world so I'm having to fight alot of that. The wings and rocket/fuel pods are together also. Still have a long ways to go though.
Dana F On the bench: Tamiya DO335B-2 with LOTS of Aires stuff (On Hold) Trumpeter A-10 with LOTS and LOTS of aftermarket goodies! (On Hold) Tamiya 240ZG (In work)
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Posted by shrikes on Monday, March 8, 2004 8:04 PM
Hey, guys! It's been a while since we checked-in on each other. How's everyone's build comming along?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 8:37 PM
Why not make a diorama of MiG-17's escorting a NMF Tu-95?! Or just one plane... Or a formation of F-105B's!! Maybe not... I need more time for my planes...
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Posted by Bones-coa on Thursday, March 4, 2004 6:39 PM
Yea, I've recently become a fan of Russian aircraft.
Dana F On the bench: Tamiya DO335B-2 with LOTS of Aires stuff (On Hold) Trumpeter A-10 with LOTS and LOTS of aftermarket goodies! (On Hold) Tamiya 240ZG (In work)
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, March 4, 2004 6:31 PM
Dana, you like the Su-9 I take it? Come on now tell me what you really think. Laugh [(-D] The kit in question is the old but crisply molded MPM vac with injected parts. I have had several in my stash and have always wanted to give it a whirl. Approve [^]

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Posted by Bones-coa on Thursday, March 4, 2004 6:18 PM




Whistling [:-^]
Dana F On the bench: Tamiya DO335B-2 with LOTS of Aires stuff (On Hold) Trumpeter A-10 with LOTS and LOTS of aftermarket goodies! (On Hold) Tamiya 240ZG (In work)
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, March 4, 2004 6:03 PM
Decision, Decisions! LOL I'm trying to pick one but the more I think about it the longer the list of possible kits gets! Confused [%-)] So far I'm looking at these possible planes in 1/72. 1)Saunder Roe SR A/1, 2)Tigercat prototype, 3)Westland Wyvern prototype,4)Su-9 a Russian Me-262 off shoot, 5)Bell XP-77, 6)Curtiss-Wright Demon, or if I can find a kit the CA-15 Kangaroo. My head is hurting! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 4, 2004 1:54 PM
04-03-04
Newtothegame:
Would love to take advantage of the SNJ special offer, but I live in Ireland and the offer is only applicable to those living in the USA.
Damn. Wanted the tamiya p-51D.

Liam
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Posted by gwaihir on Thursday, March 4, 2004 1:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by yeehah12001

what is SNJ?



SnJ is a bare metal finish. It goes on well and can be masked over. Right now they a special on their starter set where you can get a tamiya 1/48 p-51d with it for around $30. The starter set is usually $15.95, so if it is something you are interested in, it works out to be a decent deal.

website for more details: http://www.snjmodelproducts.com/
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