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Rommel vs Monty (North African GB 1941-43) Jan. 1 - Aug. 31 2014

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, February 20, 2014 3:50 PM

Thanks, guys! It was a lot of fun to start and finish a project in just 18 days, and great to see it come together more or less as intended. She looks proud in the display case!

Eric, thanks for letting wings into a tracks GB!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, February 20, 2014 3:24 PM

Mike, now that's a sweet looking 109. Great work.

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Posted by jibber on Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:54 PM

Mike thats just a beautiful job all the way around. I especially love the desert brown with the pre shading.

Just awesome.  

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:40 AM

none of the damage was severe on the BEDFORD and it's already repaired. more lessons learned on doing wheels over tracks such as leave whhels off until the end and really study the instructions to see what hangs on cargo and can beds and what hangs on outside of frame. of course now one wheel doesn't sit with the other 3 but i was going to put t on a base anyway so i can "fix" that. lots of touch up painting but getting better at sanding down runs w/o having to repaint. hope to have most of the truck together today and sketch oyt vingnette. Lord knows i have enough scrap wood for bases for the next 20 years.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:48 AM

Wayne: The gun looks great! Hate to hear that you ended up damaging the lorry mounting it though. Looking forward to photos when you get her repaired.

Don: Thanks for the write-up on how you weathered your panzer. I need to file that away for when I do another desert camo vehicle.

Mike: Beautiful work there! If there is anything off I don't see it, great job on the paint, decals, weathering, just superb job all around!  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:08 AM

Mike, this is a fine study of the Friedrich in desert colours.  I can't see anything specific that needs further tending to - well done! Yes

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:00 AM

Right, guys, I'm calling her done, sure there's places where she's a tad below par, and a few tiny jobs I might have got to, but at this point she's ready for the display case. The dusty landing gear doesn't show through all that much...  Hasegawa 1:48 Bf 109 F-4, Hauptman Werner Shroer, JG-27, 1942. Here's the evidence -- all comments welcome!

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:34 PM

Oh, Jack -- re the whitewalls. The Eduard set has masks for them but my research suggests Shroer's plane didn't have those tyres (Marseilles' did.) Similarly, there are four tiny intakes around the nose end and it seems some production blocks had them and others didn't, and from what I've seen so far Shroer's didn't -- so I left them off. I might be wrong on both counts, of course!

M/TB379

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:31 PM

Thanks, pordoi -- they're a combination of Flory washes, Dark Dirt for the underside, Black for the top, over/sealed with Microscale Satincoat.

The 109 is in final stages right now, The prop is on, I just did the MiG pigments work for dust on the tires and the exhaust/gun staining. next up, pitot and radio mast, then fabricate the wire using Ezy-line (not that I find it easy!)

Gallery pics hopefully later today/

M/TB379

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Posted by pordoi on Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:14 PM

jgeratic

Don, Pz III looks awesome!  Will you be doing anything extra to the sandbag colour to make them stand out from the vehicle?

Jack, I hadn't planned on it.   I attempted to depict a burlap-like color and am happy with the result.  But I do see your point that everything seems a bit monotone in some of the photos.  I think that in part, the photos don't show the range of color that is evident by the eye.  The pigment weathering for example is more obvious to me than it is in the images.  But then, monotone probably wasn't a bad thing for these vehicles in the desert.  Big Smile

Wayne:  looks like you having fun!!  Sounds like a faulty drive shaft to me; probably the subject of a future recall.  Wink  If I was in your position, I would need to step back and take a few deep breaths.  But soldier on and keep up the good work.

TB379:  awesome work  Wish that I could get panel lines like that...

Don

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Posted by waynec on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:01 PM

well that was fun.finally got the cab and cargo bed secured. only broke the same drive shaft for the 4th time, knocked off 2 storage boxes and a front tire oh and broke the tierod and inhaled to much cya fumes.  did finacle the gun onto the cargo bed. now to decide if i want it there or in a frantic part way off the truck abandoned position which may be more of a story though i may need a body or a couple of DAK figures

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Posted by waynec on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:09 PM

working on the winch cable using cable i got from parts box. i fit the 6lb at gun on the bed where it fit before everything was glued and painted and now it doesn't. i am debating breaking and moving some mounts or may just have it have winched off the back in a little being overrun vingnette. so decided to get first wash on gun. going to powder it now and call it done then look at cargo bed and decide.

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:10 PM

SMJmodeler

pordoi:  She's looking good to me!...I don't think the finish is too dark, did you end up trying to lighten it up with washes?  BTW:  I gotta' try that pre-shading technique!

Sorry, I neglected to say how I did the weathering.  First step was to blend in the camo and try to lighten the overall tone of the model.  This was done with a mist coat of diluted Tamiya Buff (XF-57) with a few drops of the base coat added in.  Base coat was a mix of Tamiya Dark Yellow (XF-60), Desert Yellow (XF-59), and Deck Tan (XF-55) mixed at a ratio of 4:4:3 based on an online recipe to make RAL8020 from Tamiya acrylics.  Since Buff is lighter than the base coat, the overall effect of the mist coat was to slightly lighten the base.  It also creates a look of a dusty surface.  Additional wear/chipping was done by dabbing Panzer Gray with a stiff short bristle brush on areas that would be most exposed.  Final step was to weather with MIG Gulf War Sand pigment suspended in water and brushed on.  Once dry, excess pigment was brushed off then fixed with a light misting of Mig's Pigment Fixer.

Don

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Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:57 PM

Thunderbolt379

The third pic didn't post -- that's been happening a bit lately...

M/TB379

Now that  is looking really sharp!

An extra detail you can add is whitewalls to the tires.  This was done out in the field, to protect the rubber from the blazing sun.    Depending on your taste for historical accuracy, check references though for your particular aircraft.

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Don, Pz III looks awesome!  Will you be doing anything extra to the sandbag colour to make them stand out from the vehicle?

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:58 PM

Thanks for the advice. I was planning on adding the filter neat, and then going over it with white spirits to remove excess. I am doing a large scale 88 and there's some un seen areas I can use to test it on, I think I might go for my original idea and what you just suggested. This will all be good practice for when I get to my Pz III.

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:00 PM

Bish
.SMJ, so far I have only used the streaking grime from AK, I have never thinned them, I have not read that you need to. I'm about to use the DAK wash and filters, I was planning on using them as they come. Would you suggest thinning those.

Bish: YES,  I would thin them.  For a filter effect (using AK's many wash products/colors) I thin to about 1:6 ratio, using mineral spirits.  For an overall wash I go about 1:4.  For a pin wash, at a blot/ rivet for example,  I'll dab on a tiny bit un-diluted.

AK filter effects may already be thinner than their wash effects...but I'd still err on the side of caution and dilute it.  You can always re-mix and reapplyWink

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:29 AM

Don: Magnificent work! I love everything about yuor Pz.III. The weathering is simply amazing!

Mike: Coming along nicely!

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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:33 AM

Man, there is some damn fine work being done in here. Dan, the 8rad is looking busy and almost ready for paint, nice work! Don, I love the weathering you have done so far on your panzer. Nice and dusty! Mike, your 109 is gorgeous! I have always like the desert scheme on them and plan to do one some day.

Eric

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:23 AM

Woo hoo Mike, you're almost done now!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:00 AM

The third pic didn't post -- that's been happening a bit lately...

M/TB379

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 5:57 AM

SMJ -- thanks! I'm one of those modellers who builds armor and planes with equal enthusiasm. My display case has alternating shelves of wings and tracks.

Promised WIP pics: as you can see, the decals are on, and the Aeromaster sheet was almost flawless in application, though I could have wished for them to snug into the detail tighter. Maybe my setting solution is getting old, but only one bit of detail was tight enough to accept panel wash right through the decal.

 

The subassemblies are nearly ready for mounting. Next up, fine detail painting and unmask the canopy, then I can rejig the intake, mount the flaps, get her up on her feet and mount the prop.

M/TB379

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Posted by armor86 on Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:38 AM

Is your 232 1/35 or 1/48 - I did some dry fitting and found the fenders had some extra play and had to double check once cemented there wasn't any gaps. I have the 1/35 Africa Corp version. Armor 86

 


Dan

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Posted by armor86 on Monday, February 17, 2014 7:48 PM

Hello all - noted AK products - I've use the AK DAK filter straight up from the bottle and on the DAK Tiger applied 3 coats. However with the washes, dusting effects, engine grime, mud, DAK washes, other weathering products I will first apply it right from the bottle, but will go back over with thinner to soften the effects, taper it some. On the DAK Tiger I used the DAK Dusting effects, but will go back over with thinner to soften it - Also used a couple of Pigments (MIG, AK) both Gulf War Desert and North Africa pigments for dusting and mix them with water and applied letting them dry before using a brush to remove and create the decided effects. I also have the DAK / North Africa Camo paint set (AK550) and air brush them from the bottle adding something to keep the air brush tip from drying out while straying it. Armor86

 


Dan

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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 17, 2014 4:12 PM

Dan, looking forward to seeing some paint on that, its coming along great.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 17, 2014 4:11 PM

Don, that's looking very nice indeed.

SMJ, so far I have only used the streaking grime from AK, I have never thinned them, I have not read that you need to. I'm about to use the DAK wash and filters, I was planning on using them as they come. Would you suggest thinning those.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Monday, February 17, 2014 12:47 PM

ARMOR86: WHOOOOOOA?!...hold on a minute!  p.33: Did I hear you say you applied AK products UN-thinned (I'm trying to get current on this GB but I wanted to be sure to get this clarified)

I'm a real fan of the AK products but I typically thin it, mostly as washes.   It's STRONG stuff!  I LOVE the dust effect you achieved on the Tiger!...is that straight-up effects?!

p.36: "The paints / washes can be used right out of jar, however I would use additional thinner to get the effects right"  I just got to this page, can you give me some ratio info on the dust effects?

pordoi:  She's looking good to me!...I don't think the finish is too dark, did you end up trying to lighten it up with washes?  BTW:  I gotta' try that pre-shading technique!

T379: I'm not used to seeing planes in the GB's I join, it's been fun to watch that one coming together, nice work!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jibber on Monday, February 17, 2014 12:17 PM

Thank you all, Armor any problems fitting the fenders on your Rad 8? I had to make a few adjustments to get them in tight to the body.

Don that looks like its right out of the field. The mantle, the fenders, all of it. Awesome finish and weathering and the sandbags really make it work.  

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Posted by pordoi on Monday, February 17, 2014 11:12 AM

Mike and Dan:  nice work on the 109 and 8 rad, respectively.  Looks like two more builds are nearing completion.

Jibber:  Woohoo! for the Uhu!!

Spent the weekend dirtying up the PzIII.  Still have some work to do on the tracks, jerry cans and extra parts.  This is what it looks like today...

Don

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 17, 2014 8:52 AM

Mike: That looks great! Everything came out perfect.

Dan: Again, those weld beads are beautiful!

Jibber: The IR halftrack looks great, now I'm wishing I'd joined that GB too!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Monday, February 17, 2014 4:59 AM

Quick update -- the Bf 109 is currently moving into the last lap. I accented the panel lines and recoated with satin, and the Aeromaster decals are almost all on, just a few stencils left to go. Wash accenting on the landing gear is happening, and I have to back up and fix a couple of things. It turns out I got the top half of the split flaps the wrong way up -- I need to respray them so the 02 is inside and the 79 outside. The air filter cracked off during handling so this is a chance to refine the fit. It looks like the props for the forward section are a sliver too long and thus obstructing the fit of the base. Next pics hopefully tomorrow.

M/TB379

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