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Rommel vs Monty (North African GB 1941-43) Jan. 1 - Aug. 31 2014

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  • From: Louisville, KY
Posted by pordoi on Monday, February 10, 2014 6:18 PM

Dan:  nice PE work on the 232!!

Others:  building a Tiger I with all of that suspension work and those road wheels is like the Chinese water torture.  I'm just waiting to see who goes nuts first... Indifferent  Geez, even the wheels of the PzIII each had 4 sprue attachment points to clean!... , and you have 16 more wheels to do!

Over the weekend, I put down some camo on the PzIII.  Not sure that I'm completely happy with it since I think I mixed the color a bit too brown.  But will soldier on and hope to tone it down a bit with a misting of Tamiya Buff and some pigments.  Also put the finishing touches on the tools and mounted them, as well as doing some detail painting.  Finally, sprayed a coat of Future, applied the decals, gave it a pin wash with burnt umber to highlight some detail, then a misting of Testors Dull Cote.  Here's what it looks like now...





Don

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, February 10, 2014 1:26 PM

Those roadwheels sure are a royal pain to clean up, but the suspension looks really cool once all of them are in place Wink

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 10, 2014 7:47 AM

Hey Clemons, that barrel looks fantastic! Amazing what they can turn out these days, don't envy you on all those road wheels though.

Dan: PE looks good, love the weld seams!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by armor86 on Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:25 PM

Nice work everyone - more PE details on the 232. Armor86

 


Dan

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Posted by waynec on Saturday, February 8, 2014 2:26 PM

FROM BISH Your not wrong there. If I had a £ for every warrior road wheel I had changed my stash would be twice as big

we had an alert rollout in germany in '77. routine stuff but i had been trying to get some road wheels for my gun tracks (M106A1 4.2" mortars). one was esc red (a readiness rating) because 2 road wheels had more than 50% rubber missing. as the mortar plt ldr AND co motor officer, i left it in the motor pool.

in the assy area when my co asked where it was i explained. he replied "can it move?" to which i replied "of course". he said "ok you made your point.. go back and get it ." got my road wheels rather quickly after that.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:29 PM

That suspension sure was a problem, but it still looks awesome Big Smile

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Posted by pordoi on Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:06 PM

stikpusher

...But it's drawbacks include ... problems with heavy mud or ice conditions...

Yes, I've heard of that problem, especially between the drive sprocket and first outside road wheel.  Enough of a problem that the outer road wheel was sometimes removed.

Don

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:53 AM

stikpusher
pyrman64

SchattenSpartan
There aint nothin damaging any inner roadwheels on that one! 

Except those pesky lil mines......at the most inopportune time! Huh?

Not to mention that Mother Nature tends to do a number on rubber rimmer roadwheels all on her own. Loose rocks tear them up- especially in a desert environment.

Your not wrong there. If I had a £ for every warrior road wheel I had changed my stash would be twice as big as it is.

Looking at the Tiger road wheels, in some cases you would need to remove 7 others just to get to the damage one.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:28 AM
pyrman64

SchattenSpartan
There aint nothin damaging any inner roadwheels on that one! 

Except those pesky lil mines......at the most inopportune time! Huh?

Not to mention that Mother Nature tends to do a number on rubber rimmer roadwheels all on her own. Loose rocks tear them up- especially in a desert environment.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by pyrman64 on Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:35 AM

SchattenSpartan
There aint nothin damaging any inner roadwheels on that one! 

Except those pesky lil mines......at the most inopportune time! Huh?

Greg H

"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." Gen. Wm T. Sherman (11 April 1880, Columbus, Ohio)

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:19 AM

I don't think the German engineers worried too much about replacing damaged components. The Tiger was the German "super tank" after all. There aint nothin damaging any inner roadwheels on that one! Wink Just kidding LOL. They changed it a bit on the King Tiger though to make things easier me thinks...

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, February 7, 2014 11:10 PM

The interleaved road wheels help distribute the weight more evenly on the torsion bars and reduce the likelihood of suspension damage immobilizing the tank- unlike the Porsche Tiger suspension system. But it's drawbacks include heavy maintenance for replacing damaged components and problems with heavy mud or ice conditions...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by pordoi on Friday, February 7, 2014 9:32 PM

Mike/tb379:  Really nice 109.  Keep up the good work.

Dan, SS, and others:  Seems like we have a whole battalion of Tunisian Tigers being built.  Road wheel insanity!!  I really question German engineering with the overlapping wheel design, especially with the Tigers.  Think of the work involved to replace one of the inner road wheels, especially if it was on one of the middle suspension arms.  Doesn't seem to be a very repair-friendly design... 

Don

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Posted by waynec on Friday, February 7, 2014 9:15 PM

SchattenSpartan

 

yep i of the 3 is this one. not committing with it as yet.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 7, 2014 6:43 PM

You know you want it, Wayne! Join the fun and build a Tiger as well!

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 7, 2014 6:35 PM

Photobucket messed up again! Bang Head

So here's the rest of my post...

I glued the fenders and rear plate in place:

There's a small gap at both plates, but nothing a bit of putty or a piece of plastic sheet won't fix:

And another pic just for the lols:

I ordered a barrel for my Geschützwagen Tiger as well and here it is compared to the Tiger's 88 barrel:

How do ya like THAT gun? Devil

Cheers, Clemens 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 7, 2014 6:30 PM

Ok here's what I managed to do so far:

Here's what I'll be using in this build:

A close-up of the RB barrel (got it for 6 bucks and it's worth every one of them):

The drive sprockets are assembled, but I still need to clean up some of the roadwheels (the smaller pile is still left):

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Posted by waynec on Friday, February 7, 2014 6:29 PM

i have 3 TIGERS in the garage stash and you guys make me want to grab one and build it. STOP IT/ i have enough wheels and trucks for a couple of years.

BEDFORD is base coated. will do some touch up and weather chassis and wheels this weekend and post pics.

Никто не Забыт    (No one is Forgotten)
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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 7, 2014 5:41 PM

Nice start Dan, got to love German armour and all those wheels.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Friday, February 7, 2014 5:38 PM

Thanks Schatten Spartan,  assembly has been pretty easy. 

Have not been on here in awhile, forgot how to post pictures. Stick out tongue

On my Work Bench: Tamiya Ford GT 1/24

Up Coming: ?

           

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 7, 2014 5:34 PM

Looking good, Dan! I'm almost as far as you are and I'll post some pics shortly. I have a tiny gap around that towing shackle (or whatever it is) at the lower edge of the rear plate. I think I'll have to fill it with some thin plastic sheet. No biggie though Smile

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 7, 2014 5:17 PM

Dan, if you use the Use rich formatting link you will then find the link to post pics directly.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Friday, February 7, 2014 5:07 PM

Here's a quick update on my Tiger 1,

It was fun cutting out those wheels.

Dragon's Late Production front armor.

Tamiya's Initial Production front armor.

I used testor's glue to on the bottom of the rear plate to hold it, then I came back with ProWeld and ran that around the edges.

On my Work Bench: Tamiya Ford GT 1/24

Up Coming: ?

           

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 7, 2014 1:33 PM

Sorry for my lack of pictures yesterday. I had a pretty bad headache and went to bed early.

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 7, 2014 12:53 PM

The RB Models barrel is great. I'll use it on my Tiger. There is actually a difference between barrels AFAIK: the late version has a smaller muzzle brake.

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  • From: Cincinnati Ohio
Posted by DantheMan85 on Friday, February 7, 2014 12:04 PM

I looking at the Voyager Models, WWII German Tiger I Barrel (Early Version) # VBS0105.

And RB Model 1/35 8.8cm KwK 36L/56 Tiger I Early #35B01.

On my Work Bench: Tamiya Ford GT 1/24

Up Coming: ?

           

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 7, 2014 11:15 AM

Mike: Lookin' good! Funny, think I sanded the seam off the cowling on the last Bf-109 I built...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 7, 2014 11:10 AM

Yes, an early barrel is the same. What brands are you looking at.

In fact, I am not sure if there is any difference in the 88's fitted to Tiger's throughout the production run.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Cincinnati Ohio
Posted by DantheMan85 on Friday, February 7, 2014 11:08 AM

Been trying to find a metal gun barrel for my Tiger 1, but can only find barrels are Early, Mid, and Late production version's.  Would a Early version work with my Initial production Tiger?

On my Work Bench: Tamiya Ford GT 1/24

Up Coming: ?

           

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, February 7, 2014 1:07 AM

Thanks, Jack, I've got some .005 that might do the trick, I'll have a go tomorrow and see what I can come up with. Here's today's progress:

That's the canopy masks done and the stiffeners inside the lower portion of the split flaps attended to. There's not a lot left to do -- antenna mast, pitot, split flaps and landing gear go on after painting, so some masking of locator holes and adding the aileron mass balances is about it for kit parts!

M/TB379

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