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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, June 15, 2014 7:31 PM

Well I'll be darned,,, Yeah my Badger 150 looks alot like the Harbor Freight with a stop screw, I know a few guys that use them as General Purpose guns with good results, They are just a bit tough to clean and change colors. Too bad you couldnt kust find a rear cover (Tube) for youe Neo, with the stop on it, I'll bet you would like it, alot more.

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:15 PM
Rigidrider

68GT... isnt there a stop knob at the back of the barrell to stop needle travel? I may have models confused, but most Grav fed do have a knurled knob at the end of the barrell tube. I also have an old badger 150 and a badger 350 that I started with, but I'll tell you now, once you start using the Gravity feed, you will love it. East to use, clean, fill and mix during use... I love mine and its not a real high dollar unit.

No, below is a picture of the NEO and below that is a cheap DA I picked up from Harbor Freight. See the stop screw on by the trigger of the HF airbrush.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:53 PM

LOL... Thanks Raven, Yeah I saw it and thought to myself... OK... Why not! It also helped finding the pictures in the Museum fron various different angles, At first I was having trouble figuring out thr colors, But a friend of mine has some SERIOUS computer and printing equipment and capability, and he was able to decipher the colors and with a 93% probability of which went on first (the brown) and what shade of green to use. Wish he lived closer... (ha) But any way, thanks! You and Mustang inspired me to give it a go...

Take care!

Doug

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:38 PM

LOL...Yeah you did Tom. You said you kinda figured that one out! The Decals are a sheet for the JU87 Tropical birds by E.D.Models and I found them on Ebay, I bought a sheet of various sized and styles of crosses and swastickas  at  Scalehobbyist.com  a while back (a few years) and the numbers were woodland scenic dry transfers.

I would love to see the Stuka in person someday. Looking forward to seeing yours soon!

Take care!

Doug

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:14 PM

Tom68

Rigidrider,

I knew that's what you were doing!  I grew up in Chicago.  As a kid, many many times I'd stand on the balcony and just stare at the Stuka (and the spit too).  I loved it.

You're doing a great job with it.  I gotta do one like at some point.  Where did you get the decals?

(awesome job!)

I liked viewing the STUKA.......and the F-104 that no longer hangs at the museum.
Speaking of the STUKA.........
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Posted by Tom68 on Sunday, June 15, 2014 3:17 PM

Rigidrider,

I knew that's what you were doing!  I grew up in Chicago.  As a kid, many many times I'd stand on the balcony and just stare at the Stuka (and the spit too).  I loved it.

You're doing a great job with it.  I gotta do one like at some point.  Where did you get the decals?

(awesome job!)

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Posted by Raven728 on Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:46 AM

Doug, I posted a pic of that camo scheme back on page 12 as a joke, I didn't think anyone would actually try it. You nailed it though, great work. Smile

- Steve

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:00 AM

That looks really good Doug. Man that looks good.

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Sunday, June 15, 2014 7:39 AM

Morning all... Got some decaling and dry transfers done last night...

And startind to do some of the weathering along the way...

The fuselage national markings were a real PITA!!! I have a sheet of crosses and other waterslide markings in various scales, and had to go through about 6 applications on this side, because they had very fine cracking on them (Age or possibly humidity?) that could only be seen with a magnifying visor, they kept falling apart when either being slid or trying to position properly, I think they were defective at printing , I try to remove decals from open kits upon receiving them and store in a plastic box, in a zip-loc bag and there are several humidity controling packets in the box. Oh well Finally got one to take and some micro sol and micro set affixed them nicely!

Thats all for now, Thanks

Doug

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:37 AM

Zvezda you really pulled that dive out well. That hard works gonna come into alot of play later man.

                   

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, June 14, 2014 3:44 PM

Zvedza... When I have similar problems I insert (kind of like you did on wings) spreaders under the pit floor to spread and hold the fuse apart to fill up the gap, then usually a bit of tape wing tip to wing tip to set dihedral of the wing will finish it up. Looks like you did a good job closing it up though. Good Luck!

68GT... isnt there a stop knob at the back of the barrell to stop needle travel? I may have models confused, but most Grav fed do have a knurled knob at the end of the barrell tube. I also have an old badger 150 and a badger 350 that I started with, but I'll tell you now, once you start using the Gravity feed, you will love it. East to use, clean, fill and mix during use... I love mine and its not a real high dollar unit.

Silent Bob... Thank you very much... I've just never been one to shy away from difficult jobs, I figure if they did it I should be able to (LOL) That attitude has got me into a bit of trouble though over the years! LOL...

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:33 PM

Zveda, gaps like this are not that uncommon, my Dragon 335 had something similar. I don't mind the filling as much as dealing with the step up. And this sort of this is one of the main reasons we post pics, whether its in a GB or a WiP thread.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, June 14, 2014 1:30 PM

Doug that is some seriously awesome painting! I'm more than a little jealous.

Zvezda, that looked like a nasty gap, but you did a good job of fixing it. That type of gap is my biggest pet peeve when building a model.

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Posted by 68GT on Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:43 PM
Rigidrider

68GT... Not sure what type of equipment you use, but I've found that with a DA suction gun I was able to get acceptable results .....

Have an old Badger 200 SA suction that I've been using for many years and bought an Iwata NEO DA Gravity that I bought over the winter. Still playing with that on cause there is no set screw for the trigger position. I have too heavy a finger for it I think.

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Posted by Zvezda1980 on Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:11 PM

Hello to everyone. All of your builds up to now are excellent!!!!

Some updates regarding Italeri's kit:

After a lot (and I mean A LOT) of dry fitting, I realized there are some structural issues with the fit of this kit.

Maybe I have done something wrong, but if that's the case, I cannot possibly realize what.

the main issue is in the wings to fuselage fit.

I assembled  the wings halves the way they should be

I don't like the gap in the rear wing edge and it cannot be eliminated (regardless of the glue and pressure I applied).

Only solution would have been maybe to heavily sand the interior of the wing halves, before assembly, in order to achieve a sharp, solid  edge, so that's a lesson learned.

The most serious problem is the wing to fuselage joint.

If you assemble the wings right, and you align the fuselage connection points right, this leaves a joint that proudly exhibits:

1) A gap of variable width with a maximum of more than 2mm!

2) A vertical step of variable width with a maximum of more than 2mm!

This Grand Canyon could not be dealt with by simply bending the wings to make root edges touch the fuselage since:

A. It almost reached the limit of the parts elasticity and still the gap could not be covered

B. The vertical misalignment remained,  with the fuselage side sitting much higher than the wing's airfoil profile

After much head-scratching and a bit of thinking Hmm, I considered the following options:

1) Throw the damn thing out of the window with the peril of hitting a passer-by and have the first Stuka victim in Greece after 70 years. Not No

2) Glue everything with a ton of cement, put another ton of all kinds of putties and sand down till the plastic is on fire, rescribe all details, etc. Bang Head

3) Correct the mis-alignments in both axis (somehow).

In order to 'raise' and match the wing profile to the corresponding fuselage line as much as possible, I measured distances in various points and used this stuff, cut in appropriate pieces, like an internal levering reinforcement

After many many test fittings and trials, it ended up like this.

For this I first reinforced internally the wings top - bottom joints with A LOT of super glue, so as they would not pop open by the pressure.

To improve the horizontal gap, styrene sheet was cut as per the wing's profile and welded to the wing root edge, then sanded according to the variable dimension of the gap.

only the front section was left with a gap so as the fuselage tops/bottoms could be aligned correctly

In support of these, the fuselage parts were marked and sanded to match the new wing profiles.

After all these the situation improved significantly and with a (still heavy) pull up and stressing of the wings, the root joint will be at least a bot decent.This and the final welding will be done tomorrow.

Another problem at in the bottom but htis was just sanded to hell and will be filled with putty (I have to check if this is a panel line).

I apologize if I became a bit over explicit and tiring, I just wanted

A. To have the comments of other people who have already built this kit

B. Explain the problems to help fellow modellers who will potentially build this kit in the future.

Any advice and further opinons are more than welcomed.

No need to say ITALERI had a large share of curses and foul language, but in a masochistic way it is fun. Stick out tongue

Friendly regards to all

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:35 AM

You are all very kind and coming from my very talented peers here, it means a great deal! Thank you all!

68GT... Not sure what type of equipment you use, but I've  found that with a DA suction gun I was able to get acceptable results (damn good actually) over the years, but since buying my first Gravity feed DA brush a while back, It opened up a whole new world of painting. I often on schemes like this one, remove the cone which protects the needle tip (among other things) and when you get your pressure right for the mix of paint, you can achive lines like a pencil or pen. Takes alot of practice and this pattern was done very near the surface (1/4 to 1/2 in.) at a slightly higher pressure. Thanks again...

Doug

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:34 AM

Good LORD Doug! That sir is nothing short of talent right there! Yes

                   

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Posted by 68GT on Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:41 AM

Looks good there Doug!

I have to start practicing with that mottling effect.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:31 AM

Looks damn well spot on to me, a big well done on that.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:10 AM

Morning Bish... Yup thats right, its actually the Museum of Science and Industry in the Aviation and Flight wing... When I first saw the pictures I was taken by the patterns and had to give it a try. Wasn't sure how it would come out but over all I think I got it close. Thanks...

Doug

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Posted by Reasoned on Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:07 AM

Excellent Doug!

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:57 AM

Now that's nice Doug, the History of aviation museum, that's the one in Chicago isn't it. You have done a superb job there.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:51 AM

Morning all... I stayed up till about 2am this morning trying to get the camo scheme done... I should have knowh better then to have sat down and picked up the AB. But, any way, I think I got it like I wanted. It came out like I had pictured. Sooo here they are...

All the brown is done, next I'm starting on the green...

Camo pattern done and clear coat applied...I saw the picture of this one hanging in the History of aviation museum and had to try the paint scheme... Its different thats for sure, But I like the way it came out. Decals and wash next!

Thanks

Doug (RR) 

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, June 13, 2014 9:52 PM

mikeymize

Reasoned, just wondering as I looked at your avatar, is your real name Stewart Copeland?

Good eye!  As a wannabe percussionist, at least I can pretend. Huh?

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Posted by 68GT on Friday, June 13, 2014 8:26 PM
falconmod

68GT

Yup, I used MM enamels for the stuka,  I've been using a testers clear gloss that is a acrylic just for air brushes and a MM acrylic clear flat when I'm done.

John

Do they work straight from the bottle or do you have to thin it? The only luck I've using their acrylic is with Tamiya thinner.

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Posted by mikeymize on Friday, June 13, 2014 6:23 PM

tempestjohnny

Wow its been awhile since I've been on. Great work going on here.  Haven't had any bench time lately. Lots of outdoor projects and my tournament bass fishing season started.  Also just dropped $1800 on the wife's Trans Am

Man, I thought it was a crime I dropped 125 bucks on dinner with my girlfriend last weekend! 

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by mikeymize on Friday, June 13, 2014 6:20 PM

Interior pics are great; thanks for posting. Looking at them makes me think it couldn't have been comfortable for the Bordfunker on a long flight; my back would be killing me. John, that build is fantastic looks like it just got off the assembly line at Junkers.

Reasoned, just wondering as I looked at your avatar, is your real name Stewart Copeland?

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, June 13, 2014 4:33 PM

You know, when you get the Eduard Cockpit detail set its (the pre painted ones) pretty darn blue looking.

Doug

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Posted by Bish on Friday, June 13, 2014 1:11 PM

Joe, are those pics from the Areo details book, they are really good. Is it me, or does that 66 have a blue tint to it.

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Posted by falconmod on Friday, June 13, 2014 6:50 AM

Reasoned

Excellent work John!  How'd you like to do my canopy?Smile

Thanks Reasoned.

    It's a labor of insanity, especially when the framing on the canopy isn't very well defined,  then trying to look through the tape and cut the frame out correctly.   Sorry I used up all my canopy masking credits for this build! Oops  But  a new #11 for every time I do a canopy works wonders. Big Smile

John

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