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Posted by panzerpilot on Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:27 PM

One more month, guys!

I'm making progress on a Ki-61 over on Gamera's Japanese GB, to finish in time to start this one. I'm pretty set to go, with the exception of an Eduard Big Ed. I thought I'd try that on this one.

-Tom

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, March 1, 2014 6:15 AM

Bish another PM sent. Thanks

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:52 PM

That's good news.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:36 PM

Well my smartphone is telling me I should have a package waiting for mewhen I get home. Workday hurry up and end

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, February 24, 2014 4:46 PM

Bish PM sent

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 24, 2014 2:29 PM

I'm sure it will. They are both nice kits, but the Academy does have nicer detailing. I sent the cannon and some cockpit parts for mine to Thunderbolt to do up his Fujimi kit as I had replaced mine with Aires. But the cannon on the Academy kit look just as nice as the resin, just that the resin ones include the body of the gun inside the pods. If you do decide to do the Fujimi, I can send you the Academy cannon from my G-2 if you want them as I have resin ones for that as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, February 24, 2014 2:24 PM

Just ordered the Aires set for my build. Hope it fits. Worst case I have to go get the Academy kit

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:28 AM

I have been looking at that set for some time pilot. I can't see anyone else, such as Quickboost or CMK doing this now, so I think that set will be the way to go. I know its lacking the rivet detail, but I am sure this is an easy enough fix.

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Posted by panzerpilot on Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:00 AM

Regarding the Trumpeter 1/32 'B' model errors on the nose and gear, There is AM correction available, for those dead set on building one and wanting accuracy....

http://www.scaleplasticandrail.com/kaboom/index.php/all-things-aviation/132-135-scale/132-aftermarket-items/1929-1-32-ju87-b-2-correction-set-from-fawcett-models-and-patterns

SS. Looking forward to seeing your Aires cockpit. Here's a nice write up on that set...

http://www.hyperscale.com/2008/reviews/accessories/aires2068reviewbg_1.htm

-Tom

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:03 AM

Bish. I'm going to get it and give it a go. Thanks

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Saturday, February 22, 2014 5:52 AM

Johan: Welcome aboard!

If you want to build a 1/32 Stuka, Hasegawa is the way to go. Surface detail looks excellent and the engineering is great as well. The wings for example are supported by the beefiest wing spar I've ever seen... They have a D and a G model in their 1/32 line. Interior detail is quite good and only really needs a few additional bits to busy it up a bit (maybe some Eduard PE), but I decided to add Aires' cockpit detail set because it looks so awesome. If you want to build an early Stuka, you have to look for Trumpeter's kits. They look pretty good, but have some shape issues at the nose and landing gear.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 22, 2014 5:16 AM

Johan, have you built the 32nd kit. I am sure the guys building that would welcome any tips.

So what did you think of the Airfix kit. I have been thinking of getting that as a one off in that scale, ok maybe 2 as Trump are bringing out a 24th scale D.

And thanks, I should have a fresh update on that tomorrow.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by JohanT on Saturday, February 22, 2014 5:11 AM

Hi Bish,

I volunteer for any of your chains!

Would be happy for advice/suggestion on a 1/32.

I think I did Airfix 1/24 back in the 70's but I don't want to go there again :)

Very Best Regards

Johan

BTW - Nice going on that 88! I am sitting here smiling - you are on the mark m8 :)

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, February 22, 2014 5:08 AM

Gary, I will add it to the roster, will be interesting to see what its like in the flesh.

John, I dug out the kits this morning. The Fujimi cockpit is slightly longer than the Academy. The Fujimi pit floor is also slightly wider, and that should mean less sanding to get the resin pit to fit. In the pic below, the Academy fuselage is the bottom one. It looks longer, but there are separate parts to go on top of the fuselage fore and aft of the pit which are moulded onto the Fujimi one.

I'll stick my neck on the line and say I reckon it would work. 

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GAF
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Posted by GAF on Friday, February 21, 2014 4:17 PM

Thanks, guys!  I saw the scalemate review (and that boxing is the exact one I have), though Echo's build is in a language I don't even recognize!  Looks like a nice enough model on the outside, however.

Tempestjohnny> Yes, I read that too.  Doesn't fill me with confidence about the model. Hmm

I must take it that since there is so little information on the model that no one considers it worthwhile to build!  Looking at it, I note the cockpit is almost non-existent, it has raised panel lines (something I don't really mind) and it appears no rivets.  Size-wise, it's definitely not 1:48.  It does, on a quick exam, appear that it is a D-3 with D-5 wings attached (thus the G1 designation).

Sounds like my kind of model!  Surprise

Gary

PS> Bish!  Go ahead and put me down for this model.  I'm probably going to regret this, but it looks so simple that it should just be cut and paste!  LOL!  (And I'll probably finish it before I finish up the builds for The Longest Day GB and the 1944 GB.)

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 21, 2014 3:35 PM

They now have another G-2 coming out which is labelled Rudel. But its not the same aircraft as there other G-2 boxing, this new one is the one he surrended in with the white stripes on the rudder.

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, February 21, 2014 3:29 PM

Hasegawa makes a G-1 and G-2 in a couple different boxings.

 

 

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Posted by panzerpilot on Friday, February 21, 2014 3:01 PM

mustang1989

Love the video panerpilot. Dammit man why'd you go and do that? lol. Now I want to build a G model!!!

Come on over, Mustang. Plenty of nice G's out there! Cool 

-Tom

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 21, 2014 2:49 PM

mustang1989

Love the video panerpilot. Dammit man why'd you go and do that? lol. Now I want to build a G model!!!

Italeri have one in 48th and hase has one due out.

Just sayin. Whistling

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, February 21, 2014 2:33 PM

Love the video panerpilot. Dammit man why'd you go and do that? lol. Now I want to build a G model!!!

                   

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Friday, February 21, 2014 2:07 PM

Gary I just read a quote from a review on modelling madness. The review was for the HC MS406 but in the reading the reviewer  said that the Ju87 was one of the few kits he's ever thrown away. John

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 21, 2014 1:42 PM

Gary, I found the kit on scale mates. It doesn't mention any reviews. But it does show that the original boxing in 93 was Rudel's G-2 and then was reboxed as a G-1 but doesn't mention new parts only new decals. Not sure which one you are considering, but the box art doesn't inspire confidence.

But, at the bottom, it say's Echo139er added this kit to his completed kits, and he is a member of the forum. But he doesn't come on much any more, but he did post 17 day's ago, maybe drop him a PM.

This is the scale mates page.

www.scalemates.com/.../product.php

Sorry I can't be of more help.

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, February 21, 2014 1:20 PM

Nice video Tom. Thanks for posting it up.

Gary-No idea about the Hobby craft Stuka. All I can say is...good luck.

 

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Friday, February 21, 2014 1:14 PM

Bish,

I'm seriously considering joining this group build, but I really need to finish up a couple of other things before I commit to another GB.

However, I do have a question about a model, and since this is a group of Stuka enthusiasts, I figure this is the place to ask.

I have the Hobby Craft JU-87G Stuka in 1:48 scale (supposedly) and have been searching for information on what the model is like to build.   Does anyone have some information on the model's defects?  I've been unable to find anything, or any build logs for the bird online.  Apparently, it's a terrible model, and just from my own measuring, I think it is not 1:48 scale.  It seems a little short in length.  This doesn't mean it isn't accurate for its size, but I'm curious about what makes this one so bad?

Thanks!

Gary

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Posted by Raven728 on Friday, February 21, 2014 12:05 PM

Good point, Bish. I often get so caught up in the minutia of the war that I lose sight of the big picture.

- Steve

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Posted by panzerpilot on Friday, February 21, 2014 12:04 PM

One thing I like about the Hasegawa kit is that it includes patterns, to scale, for the splinter camo.

Thanks, Bish. I found some interesting info about the cannon. It looks to be very similar to the Flak 18 development, M42U, which was used on type VII and IX Uboats. The "shell weight" was around 1400 pounds, which I assume excluded the barrel and made up the action? At any rate, it was a heavy weapon. Gas operated and 2500-2700fps (770-820mps) muzzle velocity.

-Tom

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 21, 2014 11:35 AM

Those gun were 37mm Flak cannon, Flak 18's to be precise. So I guess they had a very high muzzle velocity. I think the most common ammo was armour piecing, there main role was to take out Soviet tanks, but those do look like HE rounds judging by the explosions.

I had considered adding Rudel into the badge, there is no one who says Stuka more than him, especially the G model, as he helped to develop it and perfect the tactics. But I didn't want to make the GB all about him and he is a bit of a controversial figure given his politics. As anyone who has read some of my posts may have figured, I am a great admirer of his, but i know others might feel very differently.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Raven728 on Friday, February 21, 2014 11:27 AM

Wow, based on the sound and trajectory I would've thought those were early rockets rather than cannons.

Seeing how often Rudel's name pops up here, I wonder if he could be worked into the badge somehow?

- Steve

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 21, 2014 11:27 AM

Awesome video pilot, thanks for sharing that. That kit is certainly large isn't it. that's the only reason I ain't building it, just got no room to display it at the minute.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 21, 2014 11:22 AM

Yeah, she's one big bird for sure! Thanks for posting that awesome video!

I decided against a winter scheme BTW. I'll just go with the standard splinter camo.

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